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Anyone knows where the 130-160 shorts (x3) get margin called?
I already replied in another thread with a rough approximate. To calculate it exactly one needs to apply the following formula: (amount of collateral - (amount of units/shares * price)) / (amount of units/shares * price) = % of maintenance margin Amount of collateral is the sum of what is sitting in the account already + the proceeds from the short shale.
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February 13, 2016, 12:13:51 PM |
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Anyone knows where the 130-160 shorts (x3) get margin called?
I already replied in another thread with a rough approximate. To calculate it exactly one needs to apply the following formula: (amount of collateral - (amount of units/shares * price)) / (amount of units/shares * price) = % of maintenance margin Amount of collateral is the sum of what is sitting in the account already + the proceeds from the short shale. So the 25-35 zone is fireworks probably. IMO if this breaks 35 no one should be short anyway...
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February 13, 2016, 12:27:47 PM |
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Anyone knows where the 130-160 shorts (x3) get margin called?
I already replied in another thread with a rough approximate. To calculate it exactly one needs to apply the following formula: (amount of collateral - (amount of units/shares * price)) / (amount of units/shares * price) = % of maintenance margin Amount of collateral is the sum of what is sitting in the account already + the proceeds from the short shale. So the 25-35 zone is fireworks probably. IMO if this breaks 35 no one should be short anyway... Probably earlier I think, if you use the 33% you get around 200-220k.
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February 13, 2016, 12:30:05 PM |
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Anyone knows where the 130-160 shorts (x3) get margin called?
I already replied in another thread with a rough approximate. To calculate it exactly one needs to apply the following formula: (amount of collateral - (amount of units/shares * price)) / (amount of units/shares * price) = % of maintenance margin Amount of collateral is the sum of what is sitting in the account already + the proceeds from the short shale. So the 25-35 zone is fireworks probably. IMO if this breaks 35 no one should be short anyway... Probably earlier I think, if you use the 33% you get around 200-220k. This could explain the walls...
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February 13, 2016, 12:33:55 PM |
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Chart porn: BTCChina 1D HL 1%x3 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FowzlIt0.png&t=665&c=N55uslIW8ZOiog) POLONIEX 1D XMRBTC HL 3%x3 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2MrGk5S.png&t=665&c=S7STDT-FF47qyg)
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February 13, 2016, 02:05:39 PM |
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Anyone knows where the 130-160 shorts (x3) get margin called?
I already replied in another thread with a rough approximate. To calculate it exactly one needs to apply the following formula: (amount of collateral - (amount of units/shares * price)) / (amount of units/shares * price) = % of maintenance margin Amount of collateral is the sum of what is sitting in the account already + the proceeds from the short shale. Thanks for the info dEBRUYNE. Had no idea about it and -indeed- solved a lot of questions...
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February 13, 2016, 03:55:16 PM |
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Anyone knows where the 130-160 shorts (x3) get margin called?
I already replied in another thread with a rough approximate. To calculate it exactly one needs to apply the following formula: (amount of collateral - (amount of units/shares * price)) / (amount of units/shares * price) = % of maintenance margin Amount of collateral is the sum of what is sitting in the account already + the proceeds from the short shale. Thanks for the info dEBRUYNE. Had no idea about it and -indeed- solved a lot of questions... That formula is for shorts by the way. Formula for margin longs is: ((amount of units/shares * price) - amount of additional money borrowed) / (amount of units/shares * price) = % of maintenance margin An example of amount of additional money borrowed would be as follows: Let's say an investor buys 10k$ worth of shares and loans an additional 10k$ to buy additional shares, then the amount of additional money borrowed is $10k.
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February 13, 2016, 09:08:35 PM |
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And... XMR 20K is broken. Enjoy the ride ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Edit: TBH, I didn't expect 100000XMR to be dumped instantly (through static walls on 20000). The first 50000 were bought anyway. Someone wants desperately out, or, wants cheaper coins. The volume on Polo though still is on the rise. Let's have some popcorn. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) There is that one big wall eager to sell, currently ~20k left and sitting at 195k. After that the asks are pretty thin. XMR broke 1000btc volume, this is important for whales. Above 210 FOMO. This could go up to 5K btc volume at least (why not? ETH almost did 50K), so in that case I expect a new ATH, maybe 0.01+ But first we need to break 210. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Quite the resistance at 0.002-0.0021 area, seemed to have broken it now. Currently the battle is around 0.00235, but that isn't a major one, next huge one will be 0.00265-0.0027 correct? After that, all bets are off...
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February 13, 2016, 09:11:23 PM |
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Quite the resistance at 0.002-0.0021 are, seemed to have broken it now.
Currently the battle is around 0.00235, but that isn't a major one, next huge one will be 0.00265-0.0027 correct? After that, all bets are off...
I will quote myself from my previous post. This is what will possibly happen IMHO. Many people have been margined XMR. friends, look at the ether chart. looking a lot like bitcoin in 2014.
there's a lot of dumb money on polo right now.
be careful. i'd rather see them lose than you. i would be a seller around .0035 to .004
I believe the "jump" from 25-26 to 35 will be instant. We may witness abnormalities if 3x margin calls get burnt.
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February 13, 2016, 09:14:52 PM |
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And... XMR 20K is broken. Enjoy the ride ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Edit: TBH, I didn't expect 100000XMR to be dumped instantly (through static walls on 20000). The first 50000 were bought anyway. Someone wants desperately out, or, wants cheaper coins. The volume on Polo though still is on the rise. Let's have some popcorn. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) There is that one big wall eager to sell, currently ~20k left and sitting at 195k. After that the asks are pretty thin. XMR broke 1000btc volume, this is important for whales. Above 210 FOMO. This could go up to 5K btc volume at least (why not? ETH almost did 50K), so in that case I expect a new ATH, maybe 0.01+ But first we need to break 210. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Quite the resistance at 0.002-0.0021 are, seemed to have broken it now. Currently the battle is around 0.00235, but that isn't a major one, next huge one will be 0.00265-0.0027 correct? After that, all bets are off... Shorts aside, yes - 27-28 is the next battle ground. Above 30, escape velocity...
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February 14, 2016, 08:30:24 AM |
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It seems XMR rally postponed, due to BTC rise. FYI: BTC broke CNY2700 which IMHO is a great indicator for up up and away...
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February 14, 2016, 09:00:15 AM |
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VOYAGER I ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fvoyager.jpl.nasa.gov%2Fspacecraft%2Fimages%2Fspacecraft_highres.jpg&t=665&c=1niw1OT38lSE4Q)
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February 14, 2016, 09:37:19 AM |
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Haha! Yes you did! +1 ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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February 14, 2016, 10:53:52 AM |
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VOYAGER I ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fvoyager.jpl.nasa.gov%2Fspacecraft%2Fimages%2Fspacecraft_highr&t=665&c=L-vUKqyVHqn8Eg) heading for oort cloud, eh? "moon" not enough? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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February 14, 2016, 11:20:55 AM |
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VOYAGER I ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fvoyager.jpl.nasa.gov%2Fspacecraft%2Fimages%2Fspacecraft_highr&t=665&c=L-vUKqyVHqn8Eg) heading for oort cloud, eh? "moon" not enough? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Interstellar space!
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February 14, 2016, 03:31:37 PM |
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VOYAGER I ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fvoyager.jpl.nasa.gov%2Fspacecraft%2Fimages%2Fspacecraft_highr&t=665&c=L-vUKqyVHqn8Eg) heading for oort cloud, eh? "moon" not enough? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Interstellar space! right. just checked: voyager 1 will reach the oort cloud in 500 years and leave it in 28 k years. (if they don´t cap the battery size limit) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F3%2F32%2FVoyager_1_-_Mission_in_past_and_future.jpg&t=665&c=Jmx7NVFPGYjulA) sry .. german
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February 14, 2016, 06:27:12 PM |
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right. just checked: voyager 1 will reach the oort cloud in 500 years and leave it in 28 k years. (if they don´t cap the battery size limit)
In danger to appear geekier than you (hard mark to beat), Voyager 1 is nuclear powered. The power is estimated to be depleted at some point near 2025. Voyager 1 has three radioisotope thermoelectric generators (RTGs) mounted on a boom. Each MHW-RTG contains 24 pressed plutonium-238 oxide spheres.[18] The RTGs generated about 470 watts of electric power at the time of launch, with the remainder being dissipated as waste heat.[19] The power output of the RTGs does decline over time (due to the 87.7-year half-life of the fuel and degradation of the thermocouples), but the craft's RTGs will continue to support some of its operations until 2025.
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February 14, 2016, 11:20:30 PM |
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The battery has nothing to do with its velocity though.
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Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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February 14, 2016, 11:33:04 PM |
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The battery has nothing to do with its velocity though.
Was just going to write the same thing
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