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May 20, 2015, 05:29:25 PM
Last edit: May 20, 2015, 05:46:27 PM by philipma1957
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done!

but i was hopping we would not have to do this! addresses should have remain at pm level
where is the security and intimacy in this?
i wanted to suggest closing and deleting this thread, but now....
Thanks maverick.  The reason we're doing it this way is for transparency.  Having the BTC address attached to your profile insures that there's no scamming going on.  Nobody can inject a fake user with a bogus BTC address this way.  Too many times we've all seen people get ripped off because somebody created an account very similar to another.  Here we track your user profile (which you can't change) and a BTC address attached to that profile.  In all honesty, if I were running this, I'd make you sign a message with that BTC address - an address I can verify by looking at your user profile - quoting a PM from me.  Heck, I'd probably make you PGP sign it, too Tongue.

Here's the updated list:

Forum Name
BTC Addy
Link to your profile
philipma19571JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtjehttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=64507
jonnybravo03111DevLdogN52pHdjZnsgi4HzreFDB4ZHVrehttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=303978
ezeminer1EZeMiNERe7GysbJyYHzCDMTGETrEFA9chttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=396526
TheAnalogKid13PJEH3qjea9dX6ztfehY6bBsCUDAxpZiThttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=430758
aurel57128X8KZ7XbbNAp2mEEGhto1PQGbzt9vCLJhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=117209
BitcoinPappiNOT IN PROFILEhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=29972
pepto1GL4w3H5Q5xMW87W1nTU4NkpzJyB4pcfWBhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=64678
mavericklm1DmXYYJzwCdtp2Qe6MEtGrSCgLVstTg796https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=372118
thedreamer1FJRBWArG35cXPBi5rHQPKvbXGpuHcegJRhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=463163
Kexkey1BKJjXgKgUsKEsct5gUnaNXnEc6C3nqXhnhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=300107

@BitcoinPappi please add a BTC address to your profile.

went back and found alternate list  there are a few more in pm's to me

11) valkir

12) RoadStress

13) wlefever

14) amerikansjc

15) alh ?

16) stevej

17) page14 ----- btc ----- 136bUrJixL6jKwQM77QAhQhM3PnB5fKK7D----- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=179069

18) icey

19) jthor

20) stonerider ----- btc ----- 17um7NrMeK351o9xSpV9poT3png8EpTJLu ----- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile 

21) sjc1490 - 12Qwd8VKLQ4xF44ytHXBpCAKuF9VknG4X2



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Thanks maverick.  The reason we're doing it this way is for transparency.  Having the BTC address attached to your profile insures that there's no scamming going on.  Nobody can inject a fake user with a bogus BTC address this way.  Too many times we've all seen people get ripped off because somebody created an account very similar to another.  Here we track your user profile (which you can't change) and a BTC address attached to that profile.  In all honesty, if I were running this, I'd make you sign a message with that BTC address - an address I can verify by looking at your user profile - quoting a PM from me.  Heck, I'd probably make you PGP sign it, too Tongue.



Gosh I just had flash back of me trying to sign a message to Canary for my 15 USB miners, only to find out I could not sign one with the wallet I had sent my 30 BTC from... Tongue Had to drive to Chicago and pick up in person  Shocked

yeah if was a safe method but what a p.i.t.a …… 

I remember canary was doing 20 000 stick orders.  He was pretty good at getting the gear to you.

This is the easiest way I can figure how to do a safe payout.

 People don't realize how things can go wrong maverick has a privacy concern that I respect. 
 I wish I could figure  a better way, but he can make a new address and transfer once paid.

I did not really see the security issue until I had the 49.9 coins in an online blockchain.info wallet. I used a really good password with many copies of it in my home.

I was then fuck I owe 9 guys 4.9 btc and I have to just watch the wallet until I can cash and transfer coins out.

Next rounds the coins will be secured by ck. and we will distribute them using the list. Much safer method.

Sounds like a good plan.
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May 20, 2015, 05:48:07 PM
Last edit: May 20, 2015, 05:59:54 PM by philipma1957
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At alt listers please fill in the info. like the top ten listers.  thanks

done!

but i was hopping we would not have to do this! addresses should have remain at pm level
where is the security and intimacy in this?
i wanted to suggest closing and deleting this thread, but now....
Thanks maverick.  The reason we're doing it this way is for transparency.  Having the BTC address attached to your profile insures that there's no scamming going on.  Nobody can inject a fake user with a bogus BTC address this way.  Too many times we've all seen people get ripped off because somebody created an account very similar to another.  Here we track your user profile (which you can't change) and a BTC address attached to that profile.  In all honesty, if I were running this, I'd make you sign a message with that BTC address - an address I can verify by looking at your user profile - quoting a PM from me.  Heck, I'd probably make you PGP sign it, too Tongue.

Here's the updated list:

Forum Name
BTC Addy
Link to your profile
philipma19571JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtjehttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=64507
jonnybravo03111DevLdogN52pHdjZnsgi4HzreFDB4ZHVrehttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=303978
ezeminer1EZeMiNERe7GysbJyYHzCDMTGETrEFA9chttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=396526
TheAnalogKid13PJEH3qjea9dX6ztfehY6bBsCUDAxpZiThttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=430758
aurel57128X8KZ7XbbNAp2mEEGhto1PQGbzt9vCLJhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=117209
BitcoinPappiNOT IN PROFILEhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=29972
pepto1GL4w3H5Q5xMW87W1nTU4NkpzJyB4pcfWBhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=64678
mavericklm1DmXYYJzwCdtp2Qe6MEtGrSCgLVstTg796https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=372118
thedreamer1FJRBWArG35cXPBi5rHQPKvbXGpuHcegJRhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=463163
Kexkey1BKJjXgKgUsKEsct5gUnaNXnEc6C3nqXhnhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=300107

@BitcoinPappi please add a BTC address to your profile.

went back and found alternate list  there are a few more in pm's to me which I added to the list below

11) valkir

12) RoadStress

13) wlefever

14) amerikansjc

15) alh ?

16) stevej

17) page14 ----- btc ----- 136bUrJixL6jKwQM77QAhQhM3PnB5fKK7D----- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=179069

18) icey

19) jthor

20) stonerider ----- btc ----- 17um7NrMeK351o9xSpV9poT3png8EpTJLu ----- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile  

21) sjc1490 - 12Qwd8VKLQ4xF44ytHXBpCAKuF9VknG4X2



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May 20, 2015, 05:48:16 PM
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done!

but i was hopping we would not have to do this! addresses should have remain at pm level
where is the security and intimacy in this?
i wanted to suggest closing and deleting this thread, but now....
Thanks maverick.  The reason we're doing it this way is for transparency.  Having the BTC address attached to your profile insures that there's no scamming going on.  Nobody can inject a fake user with a bogus BTC address this way.  Too many times we've all seen people get ripped off because somebody created an account very similar to another.  Here we track your user profile (which you can't change) and a BTC address attached to that profile.  In all honesty, if I were running this, I'd make you sign a message with that BTC address - an address I can verify by looking at your user profile - quoting a PM from me.  Heck, I'd probably make you PGP sign it, too Tongue.

Here's the updated list:

Forum Name
BTC Addy
Link to your profile
philipma19571JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtjehttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=64507
jonnybravo03111DevLdogN52pHdjZnsgi4HzreFDB4ZHVrehttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=303978
ezeminer1EZeMiNERe7GysbJyYHzCDMTGETrEFA9chttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=396526
TheAnalogKid13PJEH3qjea9dX6ztfehY6bBsCUDAxpZiThttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=430758
aurel57128X8KZ7XbbNAp2mEEGhto1PQGbzt9vCLJhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=117209
BitcoinPappiNOT IN PROFILEhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=29972
pepto1GL4w3H5Q5xMW87W1nTU4NkpzJyB4pcfWBhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=64678
mavericklm1DmXYYJzwCdtp2Qe6MEtGrSCgLVstTg796https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=372118
thedreamer1FJRBWArG35cXPBi5rHQPKvbXGpuHcegJRhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=463163
Kexkey1BKJjXgKgUsKEsct5gUnaNXnEc6C3nqXhnhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=300107

@BitcoinPappi please add a BTC address to your profile.

went back and found alternate list  there are a few more in pm's to me

11) valkir

12) RoadStress

13) wlefever

14) amerikansjc

15) alh ?

16) stevej

17) page14

18) icey

19) jthor

Here's the alternate list...

Forum Name
BTC Addy
Link to your profile
valkir 1VALKiR5LAyyrYphqhkZriUWo1UjX8Ppahttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=214808
RoadStressNOT IN PROFILEhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17368
wlefever18tzWzFURMupFZs1T3XqhM6DsZxFYyeFa4https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=351375
amerikansjcNOT IN PROFILEhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=506121
alhNOT IN PROFILEhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=138946
stevejNOT IN PROFILEhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=300581
page14136bUrJixL6jKwQM77QAhQhM3PnB5fKK7Dhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=179069
icey17G3b5zxkFzTjVUXF7UFfAbG1Yi8Pz5rpNhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=78093
jthorNOT IN PROFILEhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=508261

So we have 10 original members and 9 in the alternate list.

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May 20, 2015, 05:53:00 PM
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@ jonnybravo0311   thanks

@ BitcoinPappi  please let us have  a btc addy in profile

@ mavericklm   please let us have  a btc addy  in profile


once we get the first 10

we can make the alt list of 10  and figure whom is passing  their turn from the first 10.


My hopes would be to start collecting from the  round 4 with  10   players on Tues.

We will use a new collection address for the new round.

about 0.515 btc from 10 people =  5 btc after nicehash fees   that will buy one 100th at westhash  and four 100th at nicehash.  

total 500th for about 23 to 26 hours  with floating price.  of 0.0095 a th  to max of 0.0103 a th  not set in stone  a little lower or higher is possible

due to pricing including  a fixed 100th if  price is decent. (rare but it can happen)



 Rough odds of your 0.515 btc share winning  odds vary a bit if price is lower or higher.

 1 block  =     5  to 1
 2 blocks =   25  to 1
 3 blocks =  125 to 1
 4 blocks =  625 to 1

ck will provide the address we mine to.  

I would mange :

A) the hash rental
B) if a round hits  a block ck  will hold funds and I would setup funds payout with him.
C) this is why the list has your forum name and your profile btc addy for payout.


Lastly this is a lot more work then I thought it would be  so  1 round per  diff adjustment  with a max of 2 rounds will be most likely.

I hope to do  maybe 10 to 15 runs over the summer.

I would like to alternative my address. As a result i will prefer not to include a Bitcoin address in my profile. I will simply post it publicly when one is requested. For now you can use the one that payment was sent to.
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….

I would like to alternative my address. As a result i will prefer not to include a Bitcoin address in my profile. I will simply post it publicly when one is requested. For now you can use the one that payment was sent to.



I do not want to say no exceptions.  But if I make an exception others will be annoyed.

  I can say give me a little time for a work around. I think I have one. 

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….

I would like to alternative my address. As a result i will prefer not to include a Bitcoin address in my profile. I will simply post it publicly when one is requested. For now you can use the one that payment was sent to.



I do not want to say no exceptions.  But if I make an exception others will be annoyed.

  I can say give me a little time for a work around. I think I have one. 

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I was trying to show a solution to fix BitcoinPappi

 and  a real problem just happened look at this:





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I was trying to show a solution to fix BitcoinPappi

 and  a real problem just happened look at this:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/537/cbTGda.png

I saw that same thing and was like "I'm certainly not trying to hack anything... I'm on a conference call with a client for the love of pete!"

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as i said before: this thread should have been locked and deleted!

my address is in few post here, also in ck's thread, too late. should have remained at pm level

maybe is better to have a subforum for this, with extra password... or going on IRC....
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I was trying to show a solution to fix BitcoinPappi

 and  a real problem just happened look at this:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/537/cbTGda.png

I saw that same thing and was like "I'm certainly not trying to hack anything... I'm on a conference call with a client for the love of pete!"

I got the same thing

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okay I unlocked it.


to BitcoinPappi

I did a screenshot of a fake you a real me and a real you --- profile wise------ these fake names are killers with payout errors and attempts to steal. 

I have a copycat of me :

  phillipma1957 = fake

philipma1957 = real



I would be willing for you to put in  an addy  in the  other  contact slot of your profile.






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For example  my profile

 before




my profile setup as a reference for the club





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May 20, 2015, 09:50:45 PM
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The example above allows you to keep the club payout address only with no other address 

The example above allows for you to use your  normal  btc    address as the same as the  joint btc address.

The example above allows for you to have 2 btc addresses one for the  ckpool and one for normal use

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May 20, 2015, 10:01:25 PM
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doesn't coinbase have an option to make multiple users confirm the payout to a certain person?

Also I believe in the bitcoin code there is something like that a multi-input option where after a certain group of people confirm, the payment will be sent.

Pretty much a majority wins thing.

I know its just you and ck, but it might make it harder for an address to be compromised.

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May 20, 2015, 10:13:57 PM
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doesn't coinbase have an option to make multiple users confirm the payout to a certain person?

Also I believe in the bitcoin code there is something like that a multi-input option where after a certain group of people confirm, the payment will be sent.

Pretty much a majority wins thing.

I know its just you and ck, but it might make it harder for an address to be compromised.
Multi-signature addresses are what you're describing.  Those are addresses that start with a 3.

@philipma1957 - you're proposing that people either use the BTC address part of their profile, or to put what you did in their "other contact" slot, right?  I'll keep my solo club address in my BTC address on my profile as it is currently because the nice folks running the bit-x signature campaign require me to put my bit-x address in the other contact info portion of my profile.

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May 20, 2015, 10:27:13 PM
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At alt listers please fill in the info. like the top ten listers.  thanks

I will do it in a couple of hours. Do we need to send coins from that address too?

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May 20, 2015, 10:45:15 PM
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doesn't coinbase have an option to make multiple users confirm the payout to a certain person?

Also I believe in the bitcoin code there is something like that a multi-input option where after a certain group of people confirm, the payment will be sent.

Pretty much a majority wins thing.

I know its just you and ck, but it might make it harder for an address to be compromised.
Multi-signature addresses are what you're describing.  Those are addresses that start with a 3.

@philipma1957 - you're proposing that people either use the BTC address part of their profile, or to put what you did in their "other contact" slot, right?  I'll keep my solo club address in my BTC address on my profile as it is currently because the nice folks running the bit-x signature campaign require me to put my bit-x address in the other contact info portion of my profile.

Same for me with the bit-x campaign. Are we worried about someone hacking my forum profile and changing the address?
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Last edit: May 21, 2015, 02:05:46 AM by philipma1957
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I have 2 extra security ideas that will make fake addresses very difficult as long as I get to match the   profile with this list.



doesn't coinbase have an option to make multiple users confirm the payout to a certain person?

Also I believe in the bitcoin code there is something like that a multi-input option where after a certain group of people confirm, the payment will be sent.

Pretty much a majority wins thing.

I know its just you and ck, but it might make it harder for an address to be compromised.
Multi-signature addresses are what you're describing.  Those are addresses that start with a 3.

@philipma1957 - you're proposing that people either use the BTC address part of their profile, or to put what you did in their "other contact" slot, right?  I'll keep my solo club address in my BTC address on my profile as it is currently because the nice folks running the bit-x signature campaign require me to put my bit-x address in the other contact info portion of my profile.

Same for me with the bit-x campaign. Are we worried about someone hacking my forum profile and changing the address?

I have 2 extra security ideas that will make fake addresses very difficult as long as I get to match the   profile with this list.



done!

but i was hopping we would not have to do this! addresses should have remain at pm level
where is the security and intimacy in this?
i wanted to suggest closing and deleting this thread, but now....
Thanks maverick.  The reason we're doing it this way is for transparency.  Having the BTC address attached to your profile insures that there's no scamming going on.  Nobody can inject a fake user with a bogus BTC address this way.  Too many times we've all seen people get ripped off because somebody created an account very similar to another.  Here we track your user profile (which you can't change) and a BTC address attached to that profile.  In all honesty, if I were running this, I'd make you sign a message with that BTC address - an address I can verify by looking at your user profile - quoting a PM from me.  Heck, I'd probably make you PGP sign it, too Tongue.

Here's the updated list:

Forum Name
BTC Addy
Link to your profile
philipma19571JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtjehttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=64507
jonnybravo03111DevLdogN52pHdjZnsgi4HzreFDB4ZHVrehttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=303978
ezeminer1EZeMiNERe7GysbJyYHzCDMTGETrEFA9chttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=396526
TheAnalogKid13PJEH3qjea9dX6ztfehY6bBsCUDAxpZiThttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=430758
aurel57128X8KZ7XbbNAp2mEEGhto1PQGbzt9vCLJhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=117209
BitcoinPappi135nDABHpvXRnU2MgDvYTvb94wgBEi7D58https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=29972
pepto1GL4w3H5Q5xMW87W1nTU4NkpzJyB4pcfWBhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=64678
mavericklm1DmXYYJzwCdtp2Qe6MEtGrSCgLVstTg796https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=372118
thedreamer1FJRBWArG35cXPBi5rHQPKvbXGpuHcegJRhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=463163
Kexkey1BKJjXgKgUsKEsct5gUnaNXnEc6C3nqXhnhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=300107

@BitcoinPappi please add a BTC address to your profile.

went back and found alternate list  there are a few more in pm's to me

11) valkir

12) RoadStress

13) wlefever

14) amerikansjc

15) alh ?

16) stevej

17) page14

18) icey

19) jthor

20) stonerider ----- btc ----- 17um7NrMeK351o9xSpV9poT3png8EpTJLu ----- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile  

21) sjc1490 - 12Qwd8VKLQ4xF44ytHXBpCAKuF9VknG4X2-----https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=329963

Here's the alternate list...

Forum Name
BTC Addy
Link to your profile
valkir 1VALKiR5LAyyrYphqhkZriUWo1UjX8Ppahttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=214808
RoadStressNOT IN PROFILEhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17368
wlefever18tzWzFURMupFZs1T3XqhM6DsZxFYyeFa4https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=351375
amerikansjc1731Z6bjNvUZisDQmtSXfW2ntPoSg9UwNDhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=506121
alhNOT IN PROFILEhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=138946
stevejNOT IN PROFILEhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=300581
page14136bUrJixL6jKwQM77QAhQhM3PnB5fKK7Dhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=179069
icey17G3b5zxkFzTjVUXF7UFfAbG1Yi8Pz5rpNhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=78093
jthor17iEAtqJusSpPAuRJqMyJoaqE37TGB2hVzhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=508261

So we have 10 original members and 11 in the alternate list.

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May 20, 2015, 11:02:46 PM
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@ RoadStress  

When coins are sent they can come from anyplace.   but the btc for payouts is where coins go back to.

@jthor updated to  alt list

@stonerider the btc addy does not match the profile btc addy

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