**2-8BTC GIVEAWAY** Announcing the launch of PvPDice - Player Vs Player betting

[Nextgen]

what is minimum amount to withdraw and what are terms of withdrawal

[gampher]

what is minimum amount to withdraw and what are terms of withdrawal

I think dont ask about it yet since the site is still in test mode and deposits and withdrawals are disabled

[selene72]

So guys anyone wants to play with me ?  Usernmae selene72 im on right now

[Jamie_Boulder]

hello , i cant sign in
im sure that is true username and password but still can not , how to get my account back ?

When you sign up you are asked to enter a username & e-mail address; your password is automatically generated with a complex 7 algorithm and sent to your e-mail address; you are then free to either use it as your own or change it from the profile page.

Am i missing something or is there an option to randomly assign two players interested in PvPing or atleast show a list? If not, take this as my suggestion.

Not random, you enter your bet value, choose the amount of games you want to play (our version of autobet I guess), then click "invite user", everyone capable of making your wager will show up in a list; simply select a player and if they accept you enter into a game.

I didnt recieved any email from your site regarding my password so i guess you have to fix it

Username? I just tested it then and it works.

[gampher]

hello , i cant sign in
im sure that is true username and password but still can not , how to get my account back ?

When you sign up you are asked to enter a username & e-mail address; your password is automatically generated with a complex 7 algorithm and sent to your e-mail address; you are then free to either use it as your own or change it from the profile page.

Am i missing something or is there an option to randomly assign two players interested in PvPing or atleast show a list? If not, take this as my suggestion.

Not random, you enter your bet value, choose the amount of games you want to play (our version of autobet I guess), then click "invite user", everyone capable of making your wager will show up in a list; simply select a player and if they accept you enter into a game.

I didnt recieved any email from your site regarding my password so i guess you have to fix it

Username? I just tested it then and it works.

Username is gampher can you pls manually email me with my password?

[caskey4521]

I think displaying the biggest bet is not that relevant, You should display who is leading the game instead.

[seoincorporation]

i have tested your site.

I open 2 account with yopmail, and get the 0.04 on each of them. Yolo with one of them and lost all. I will not gamble the other one, i was testing the site but don't found bugs.

The give away is looking nice, good luck with your site.

[Jamie_Boulder]

hello , i cant sign in
im sure that is true username and password but still can not , how to get my account back ?

When you sign up you are asked to enter a username & e-mail address; your password is automatically generated with a complex 7 algorithm and sent to your e-mail address; you are then free to either use it as your own or change it from the profile page.

Am i missing something or is there an option to randomly assign two players interested in PvPing or atleast show a list? If not, take this as my suggestion.

Not random, you enter your bet value, choose the amount of games you want to play (our version of autobet I guess), then click "invite user", everyone capable of making your wager will show up in a list; simply select a player and if they accept you enter into a game.

I didnt recieved any email from your site regarding my password so i guess you have to fix it

Username? I just tested it then and it works.

Username is gampher can you pls manually email me with my password?

Done.

I think displaying the biggest bet is not that relevant, You should display who is leading the game instead.

Unfortunately as this is a limited time promotion we decided not to dedicate to many resources to it; that includes brain storming for nice ideas like this.

I may post the results of the current winners here every day or so.

i have tested your site.

I open 2 account with yopmail, and get the 0.04 on each of them. Yolo with one of them and lost all. I will not gamble the other one, i was testing the site but don't found bugs.

The give away is looking nice, good luck with your site.

Thanks for your honesty...

[deadlyunknown]

I found this site quite enjoying, especially the poker PVP.
Good luck with this site!

[panjul07]

Gurbar leading the Hi-Scores with the highest bet made so far.


(screenshot sent by user).

I think this high-scores leader board with highest bet is not really important to be announced since the prize will be given to anyone with the highest balance.
So, is there any ways to see top 10players with highest balance?
one more question : since you said there will be only ONE winner, so what will happen to other players who still have have small balance at the end of this tournament? Lets say user "A" win the main prize with 5BTC and there is user "B" "C" "D" "E" "F" with 0.5btc each, will they able to withdraw the 0.5btc or will you remove their (B C D E F) balance?

[seoincorporation]

hello , i cant sign in
im sure that is true username and password but still can not , how to get my account back ?

When you sign up you are asked to enter a username & e-mail address; your password is automatically generated with a complex 7 algorithm and sent to your e-mail address; you are then free to either use it as your own or change it from the profile page.

Am i missing something or is there an option to randomly assign two players interested in PvPing or atleast show a list? If not, take this as my suggestion.

Not random, you enter your bet value, choose the amount of games you want to play (our version of autobet I guess), then click "invite user", everyone capable of making your wager will show up in a list; simply select a player and if they accept you enter into a game.

I didnt recieved any email from your site regarding my password so i guess you have to fix it

Username? I just tested it then and it works.

Username is gampher can you pls manually email me with my password?

Done.

I think displaying the biggest bet is not that relevant, You should display who is leading the game instead.

Unfortunately as this is a limited time promotion we decided not to dedicate to many resources to it; that includes brain storming for nice ideas like this.

I may post the results of the current winners here every day or so.

i have tested your site.

I open 2 account with yopmail, and get the 0.04 on each of them. Yolo with one of them and lost all. I will not gamble the other one, i was testing the site but don't found bugs.

The give away is looking nice, good luck with your site.

Thanks for your honesty...

Hi Jamie_Boulder, i keep looking in your site and found something weird.

I was taking a look to your provably fair system, and i see the bet result is based on the Bet ID. and when i take a look to my bets id i found this:


http://i61.tinypic.com/2wew2ew.png

160075    Totoro    2015-05-20 09:20:34    0.04000000    PVP:Lo-Dice    55
159870    Totoro    2015-05-20 09:20:10    0.04000000    PVP:Lo-Dice    26

and i ask my self... how did 9 users roll 205 bets on 24 second? Then i take a look to all users bet and saw this:


http://s11.postimg.org/tjvmjqgzn/pr2.png

The Bet ID give big jumps, and since the provably fair is based in that number, that makes the site unfair. And i will tell you why;

Code:

while (user-A win)
then;
BetID=BetID+1;
done;

If you give a consecutive number for the Bet ID, that will make your site fair for me. I'm not saying you are cheating there, i'm just sharing my point of view, i don't know why that BetID number give that big jumps, but i would like to know the answer.

And i found other problem in your site:

You dont have a captcha in the Contact tab. with the next code for IMacros i can auto send a message:

Code:

VERSION BUILD=8920312 RECORDER=FX
TAB T=1
TAG POS=2 TYPE=LI ATTR=TXT:CONTACT
TAG POS=2 TYPE=A ATTR=TXT:CONTACT
TAG POS=1 TYPE=INPUT:TEXT FORM=NAME:contactForm ATTR=NAME:full_name CONTENT=Test
TAG POS=1 TYPE=INPUT:TEXT FORM=NAME:contactForm ATTR=NAME:email CONTENT=test@hotmail.com
TAG POS=1 TYPE=TEXTAREA FORM=NAME:contactForm ATTR=NAME:comments CONTENT=test1111
ONDIALOG POS=1 BUTTON=OK CONTENT=
TAG POS=1 TYPE=INPUT:SUBMIT FORM=NAME:contactForm ATTR=*

Hope you take this as constructive comments, i really wish you the best with your site.

[ajareselde]

There is nothing stopping owner of the site to claim this promo bonus with fake account, since theres no real transparency here ?

If this is only bitcointalk promo, why not make a rule that username must be the same as on site.
And add info who is leading with most BTC , that board you now have there is useless info.

Just my opinion.

[Fraxinus]

I can't register because it seems it's over 200 users

[Jamie_Boulder]

hello , i cant sign in
im sure that is true username and password but still can not , how to get my account back ?

When you sign up you are asked to enter a username & e-mail address; your password is automatically generated with a complex 7 algorithm and sent to your e-mail address; you are then free to either use it as your own or change it from the profile page.

Am i missing something or is there an option to randomly assign two players interested in PvPing or atleast show a list? If not, take this as my suggestion.

Not random, you enter your bet value, choose the amount of games you want to play (our version of autobet I guess), then click "invite user", everyone capable of making your wager will show up in a list; simply select a player and if they accept you enter into a game.

I didnt recieved any email from your site regarding my password so i guess you have to fix it

Username? I just tested it then and it works.

Username is gampher can you pls manually email me with my password?

Done.

I think displaying the biggest bet is not that relevant, You should display who is leading the game instead.

Unfortunately as this is a limited time promotion we decided not to dedicate to many resources to it; that includes brain storming for nice ideas like this.

I may post the results of the current winners here every day or so.

i have tested your site.

I open 2 account with yopmail, and get the 0.04 on each of them. Yolo with one of them and lost all. I will not gamble the other one, i was testing the site but don't found bugs.

The give away is looking nice, good luck with your site.

Thanks for your honesty...

Hi Jamie_Boulder, i keep looking in your site and found something weird.

I was taking a look to your provably fair system, and i see the bet result is based on the Bet ID. and when i take a look to my bets id i found this:


http://i61.tinypic.com/2wew2ew.png

160075    Totoro    2015-05-20 09:20:34    0.04000000    PVP:Lo-Dice    55
159870    Totoro    2015-05-20 09:20:10    0.04000000    PVP:Lo-Dice    26

and i ask my self... how did 9 users roll 205 bets on 24 second? Then i take a look to all users bet and saw this:


http://s11.postimg.org/tjvmjqgzn/pr2.png

The Bet ID give big jumps, and since the provably fair is based in that number, that makes the site unfair. And i will tell you why;

Code:

while (user-A win)
then;
BetID=BetID+1;
done;

If you give a consecutive number for the Bet ID, that will make your site fair for me. I'm not saying you are cheating there, i'm just sharing my point of view, i don't know why that BetID number give that big jumps, but i would like to know the answer.

And i found other problem in your site:

You dont have a captcha in the Contact tab. with the next code for IMacros i can auto send a message:

Code:

VERSION BUILD=8920312 RECORDER=FX
TAB T=1
TAG POS=2 TYPE=LI ATTR=TXT:CONTACT
TAG POS=2 TYPE=A ATTR=TXT:CONTACT
TAG POS=1 TYPE=INPUT:TEXT FORM=NAME:contactForm ATTR=NAME:full_name CONTENT=Test
TAG POS=1 TYPE=INPUT:TEXT FORM=NAME:contactForm ATTR=NAME:email CONTENT=test@hotmail.com
TAG POS=1 TYPE=TEXTAREA FORM=NAME:contactForm ATTR=NAME:comments CONTENT=test1111
ONDIALOG POS=1 BUTTON=OK CONTENT=
TAG POS=1 TYPE=INPUT:SUBMIT FORM=NAME:contactForm ATTR=*

Hope you take this as constructive comments, i really wish you the best with your site.

Thanks for taking an interest seoincorporation,

To address your concern:
The poker & dicing provably fair systems are each based off 4-7 attributes of the website.,

Dice:
Bet ID
Challanges
Total Bets
Seed

Poker:
Bet ID
No. Of Bets
Total Bets
Seed
Value of last card (First card is always "0")
Value of current card place (e.g. Ace, King, 3, if the card is Ace then the place is first so value is 1)
Game number

To avoid someone exploiting the predictability of the attributes (and therefore cheating) I personally made the call to change the bet IDs to a dynamic attribute that wasn't predictable by both the owners and the players.

This to me still represents a provably fair game as we not only allow players to change their own seed but also have no way of predicting the result from an automatically generated md5 hash (assuming they don't change it anyway).

Couldn't agree more about the contact tab, work in progress.

Thanks again!

I can't register because it seems it's over 200 users

Yep, 200 users have been reached; sorry everyone - we will announce the winners via this thread.

There is nothing stopping owner of the site to claim this promo bonus with fake account, since theres no real transparency here ?

If this is only bitcointalk promo, why not make a rule that username must be the same as on site.
And add info who is leading with most BTC , that board you now have there is useless info.

Just my opinion.

I believe whoever wins will have had to of made many, many bets so our logic behind this was that when the winner is announced there will be enough opponents over the 7 days to announce he/she is legitimate and not just randomly forged with a high balance.

Will also post updates of the current winners over the next few days.

[mirana12345]

Is it just me , or does noone want to play?
I mean, i invite users to challange them, but most of them dont react.

[chronicsky]

It shows me it is limited to 200 users only
How do i sign up ?

[flippy]

Technically, no site is 100% provably fair - at any point the owner can shut down the site and run with the money - and PVP is difficult to make provably fair, since there are many ways that the owner could cheat. However, the current provably fair system on this site seems particularly weak. As mentioned, the bet ID could be deliberately chosen to favour one player, and because the random increments are within a particular range (judging from the shown screenshot, I'm guessing in the thousands?) it would be trivial for a player to run some code which figures out what the average of their next few thousand rolls would be, meaning they could challenge high/low appropriately and have an advantage compared to a typical player.

I don't remember it completely, but Primedice's PVP used a system where both rolls relied on both seeds - $player1.$player2 for player 1's roll, $player2.$player1 for player 2's roll. Something along those lines would be an improvement, though there would still be issues if the owner was playing and could determine the opponent's seed in advance.

[cbase]

It shows me it is limited to 200 users only
How do i sign up ?

They limit the users to 200 only then the registration is closed after that. Well this is just a test for them to find bugs and problems about the site

[seoincorporation]

hello , i cant sign in
im sure that is true username and password but still can not , how to get my account back ?

When you sign up you are asked to enter a username & e-mail address; your password is automatically generated with a complex 7 algorithm and sent to your e-mail address; you are then free to either use it as your own or change it from the profile page.

Am i missing something or is there an option to randomly assign two players interested in PvPing or atleast show a list? If not, take this as my suggestion.

Not random, you enter your bet value, choose the amount of games you want to play (our version of autobet I guess), then click "invite user", everyone capable of making your wager will show up in a list; simply select a player and if they accept you enter into a game.

I didnt recieved any email from your site regarding my password so i guess you have to fix it

Username? I just tested it then and it works.

Username is gampher can you pls manually email me with my password?

Done.

I think displaying the biggest bet is not that relevant, You should display who is leading the game instead.

Unfortunately as this is a limited time promotion we decided not to dedicate to many resources to it; that includes brain storming for nice ideas like this.

I may post the results of the current winners here every day or so.

i have tested your site.

I open 2 account with yopmail, and get the 0.04 on each of them. Yolo with one of them and lost all. I will not gamble the other one, i was testing the site but don't found bugs.

The give away is looking nice, good luck with your site.

Thanks for your honesty...

Hi Jamie_Boulder, i keep looking in your site and found something weird.

I was taking a look to your provably fair system, and i see the bet result is based on the Bet ID. and when i take a look to my bets id i found this:


http://i61.tinypic.com/2wew2ew.png

160075    Totoro    2015-05-20 09:20:34    0.04000000    PVP:Lo-Dice    55
159870    Totoro    2015-05-20 09:20:10    0.04000000    PVP:Lo-Dice    26

and i ask my self... how did 9 users roll 205 bets on 24 second? Then i take a look to all users bet and saw this:


http://s11.postimg.org/tjvmjqgzn/pr2.png

The Bet ID give big jumps, and since the provably fair is based in that number, that makes the site unfair. And i will tell you why;

Code:

while (user-A win)
then;
BetID=BetID+1;
done;

If you give a consecutive number for the Bet ID, that will make your site fair for me. I'm not saying you are cheating there, i'm just sharing my point of view, i don't know why that BetID number give that big jumps, but i would like to know the answer.

And i found other problem in your site:

You dont have a captcha in the Contact tab. with the next code for IMacros i can auto send a message:

Code:

VERSION BUILD=8920312 RECORDER=FX
TAB T=1
TAG POS=2 TYPE=LI ATTR=TXT:CONTACT
TAG POS=2 TYPE=A ATTR=TXT:CONTACT
TAG POS=1 TYPE=INPUT:TEXT FORM=NAME:contactForm ATTR=NAME:full_name CONTENT=Test
TAG POS=1 TYPE=INPUT:TEXT FORM=NAME:contactForm ATTR=NAME:email CONTENT=test@hotmail.com
TAG POS=1 TYPE=TEXTAREA FORM=NAME:contactForm ATTR=NAME:comments CONTENT=test1111
ONDIALOG POS=1 BUTTON=OK CONTENT=
TAG POS=1 TYPE=INPUT:SUBMIT FORM=NAME:contactForm ATTR=*

Hope you take this as constructive comments, i really wish you the best with your site.

Thanks for taking an interest seoincorporation,

To address your concern:
The poker & dicing provably fair systems are each based off 4-7 attributes of the website.,

Dice:
Bet ID
Challanges
Total Bets
Seed

Poker:
Bet ID
No. Of Bets
Total Bets
Seed
Value of last card (First card is always "0")
Value of current card place (e.g. Ace, King, 3, if the card is Ace then the place is first so value is 1)
Game number

To avoid someone exploiting the predictability of the attributes (and therefore cheating) I personally made the call to change the bet IDs to a dynamic attribute that wasn't predictable by both the owners and the players.

This to me still represents a provably fair game as we not only allow players to change their own seed but also have no way of predicting the result from an automatically generated md5 hash (assuming they don't change it anyway).

Couldn't agree more about the contact tab, work in progress.

Thanks again!

I can't register because it seems it's over 200 users

Yep, 200 users have been reached; sorry everyone - we will announce the winners via this thread.

There is nothing stopping owner of the site to claim this promo bonus with fake account, since theres no real transparency here ?

If this is only bitcointalk promo, why not make a rule that username must be the same as on site.
And add info who is leading with most BTC , that board you now have there is useless info.

Just my opinion.

I believe whoever wins will have had to of made many, many bets so our logic behind this was that when the winner is announced there will be enough opponents over the 7 days to announce he/she is legitimate and not just randomly forged with a high balance.

Will also post updates of the current winners over the next few days.

To avoid someone exploiting the predictability of the attributes (and therefore cheating) I personally made the call to change the bet IDs to a dynamic attribute that wasn't predictable by both the owners and the players.

Great answer! Now the site is again provably fair for me again. I wish you great luck and if i found anything else i will let you know

[dominicg]

The site is not accepting players anymore?