Why is Yanis Varoufakis so praised? he is just a socialist puppet

[GreenStox]

Yanis Varoufakis, the finance minister of Greece, run independently, however supported by Syriza the socialist (maybe communist?) party currently governing Greece. He is very popular and very praised, almost like a deity, but i dont know why??  

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Yes he knows about bitcoin, and bla bla bla, but you guys actually hear what he is saying, he wants an European Soviet Union, to absorb the debt of deficit spending- socialist countries:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP5Al0Z2HEE

So he basically wants Germany and other countries to absorb the debts of all idiot governments who spend beyond their means, a.k.a Centralized EU, obviously European Soviet Union

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He knows about Bitcoin, but he will never implement it because he is a socialist who only wants to steal from people, and Bitcoin is about sovereign wealth, individuality and freedom, and not about socialist extortion racket.

Also he is a Marxist ☭

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[V for Varoufakis]

Marxism is good. The means of production must be owned by the state, ie the people.

[GreenStox]

Marxism is good. The means of production must be owned by the state, ie the people.

The state =/= the people, oh yea like Marxism worked out in: Venezuela, Soviet Union, Cuba, East Europe. They were one of the worst places on earth, and you want to bring back the curse of communism back?

How many times has communism has to fail so that guys like you to understand it? Why the fuck do you use Bitcoin?

Because unless you realized, bitcoin respects private property, communists dont.

[libertariankant]

I think that's a bit of a misreading of Varoufakis' influence over global politics.

One can disagree with his politics (I do), but it's pretty clear that his attempts to alter Greece's political system can be crushed in an instant by the financial power of German/Western European capital.

We need not fear a socialist revolution originating in Greece--Varoufakis exists in the wrong historical context for his movement to ever take-off. (Also he is not a Soviet-sympathizer; he has described himself as an 'erratic Marxist' and is more or less a social democrat. Most people within Syriza are to his left. Make of that what you will.)

[GreenStox]

I think that's a bit of a misreading of Varoufakis' influence over global politics.

One can disagree with his politics (I do), but it's pretty clear that his attempts to alter Greece's political system can be crushed in an instant by the financial power of German/Western European capital.

We need not fear a socialist revolution originating in Greece--Varoufakis exists in the wrong historical context for his movement to ever take-off. (Also he is not a Soviet-sympathizer; he has described himself as an 'erratic Marxist' and is more or less a social democrat. Most people within Syriza are to his left. Make of that what you will.)

First i kinda liked the guy, mostly because he was one of the most popular politician from the region, that was supportive of bitcoin.

Then I realize how naive I was ,because after he gave that interview, he exposed himself and his true intentions.

He is a globalist / marxist who wants to create an European Soviet Union, also he is highly populist using hegelian diaclectic, so be careful with that!

No question he wants the external liability out of his country, but i think many people mis-see his true intention, because even though he seems like he doesn't like the cental banksters, he would subscribe to an europen centralized model, which would give away Greece's sovereignity , so he contradicts himself.

So it seems to me all this fight between the "evil EU banks" and the "heroic government that will save the day" is a childish mirage. I don't like any of them, i`m a Libertarian.

[GreenStox]

Marxism is good. The means of production must be owned by the state, ie the people.

Yea so instead of being the slave of the big corporations you can become the slave of the government.

Pretty good idea, why haven't i thought of this before? 

You deserve a nobel prize!

[bryant.coleman]

Marxism is good. The means of production must be owned by the state, ie the people.

Either the production must be owned by the people, or it will should be owned by the state. Both are different. In case of communism, the latter will be true. And the reason for the failure of this system is that the "state" here will almost always be corrupt and inefficient. Examples are North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela. In rare cases, this system can be successfully implemented, if the state machinery is efficient. A notable example is that of East Germany, which fared relatively better under Erich Honecker.

[GreenStox]

Marxism is good. The means of production must be owned by the state, ie the people.

Either the production must be owned by the people, or it will should be owned by the state. Both are different. In case of communism, the latter will be true. And the reason for the failure of this system is that the "state" here will almost always be corrupt and inefficient. Examples are North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela. In rare cases, this system can be successfully implemented, if the state machinery is efficient. A notable example is that of East Germany, which fared relatively better under Erich Honecker.

No the government loves you, it's just that they steal half of your money every month and lie to your constantly at a 24 hour basis.

■They also love children, thats why they send them to indoctrination centers by the young age and put massive propaganda in them, then use psychological terror on them, and by the time they are finished at 18, they become obedient, bored, and lack-of creativity, slaves to the system.

■They also love old people, that's why they let the big banks steal the pension funds.

■They also love young people who are near marriage, that's why they put regulations in place so that they cant start a business and cant have a normal paying job and tax the 20-30 year olds the most so that they will definitely have money to raise a family.

■Oh but dont worry we got the banksters who will provide us with car loans, student loans, house loans, credit cards and all your goodies. Just sign the dotted line, and become a slave of the system


The system loves you!

[Daniel91]

Varoufakis and his party won election in Greek based on many empty promises.
Now, they face cruel reality and probably they will have to submit to EU and international financial institutions or Greek will bankrupt.
In my opinion, Greek deserve much better but it seems politicians there just can't accept reality.
It is obvious that Varoufakis already irritated many European finance ministers because of his inability and constant avoiding execution of financial obligations.
To average people he can be interesting but in the long term he may do great harm to his country.

[Lethn]

I'm actually going to defend Marxists here, there aren't really many real communists or socialists around anymore, what you have in the main political arena like this stupid twat are Leninists and Stalinists, these 'communists' turned on the Anarchists at the protests in Greece ( I suspect this finance minister had something to do with it ) and apparently it was over some guy getting badly injured or killed there and of course there are conflicting reports where people are saying it was the protestors that hit the person with a rock or something but Anarchists are saying it was police tear gas and adding to the Anarchist side of the argument the communists seemed far too organised to just suddenly have 'reacted' to this guy getting killed when they joined up with the police.

http://roarmag.org/2011/10/anarchists-communists-strike-riots-violence-greece/

Be wary of any Authoritarian scumbags trying to declare themselves your friends.

[V for Varoufakis]

Marxism is good. The means of production must be owned by the state, ie the people.

Yea so instead of being the slave of the big corporations you can become the slave of the government.

Pretty good idea, why haven't i thought of this before?  

You deserve a nobel prize!

Ofcourse i deserve a nobel prize, because i know better mathematics than the IMF/EU idiots. Even a simple housewife knows better mathematics.

[V for Varoufakis]

Marxism is good. The means of production must be owned by the state, ie the people.

The state =/= the people, oh yea like Marxism worked out in: Venezuela, Soviet Union, Cuba, East Europe. They were one of the worst places on earth, and you want to bring back the curse of communism back?

How many times has communism has to fail so that guys like you to understand it? Why the fuck do you use Bitcoin?

Because unless you realized, bitcoin respects private property, communists dont.

I respect the private property, i don't respect the private production.

[Lethn]

The state is not the people, the state is a wholly seperate entity, shame, thought you sounded like a syndicalist at first, but you're definitely a Communist.

[Wilikon]

Yanis Varoufakis, the finance minister of Greece, run independently, however supported by Syriza the socialist (maybe communist?) party currently governing Greece. He is very popular and very praised, almost like a deity, but i dont know why??  

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Yes he knows about bitcoin, and bla bla bla, but you guys actually hear what he is saying, he wants an European Soviet Union, to absorb the debt of deficit spending- socialist countries:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP5Al0Z2HEE

So he basically wants Germany and other countries to absorb the debts of all idiot governments who spend beyond their means, a.k.a Centralized EU, obviously European Soviet Union

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He knows about Bitcoin, but he will never implement it because he is a socialist who only wants to steal from people, and Bitcoin is about sovereign wealth, individuality and freedom, and not about socialist extortion racket.

Also he is a Marxist ☭

And as with any good marx lover, his life does not fit what he preaches for others...

[GreenStox]

I'm actually going to defend Marxists here, there aren't really many real communists or socialists around anymore, what you have in the main political arena like this stupid twat are Leninists and Stalinists, these 'communists' turned on the Anarchists at the protests in Greece ( I suspect this finance minister had something to do with it ) and apparently it was over some guy getting badly injured or killed there and of course there are conflicting reports where people are saying it was the protestors that hit the person with a rock or something but Anarchists are saying it was police tear gas and adding to the Anarchist side of the argument the communists seemed far too organised to just suddenly have 'reacted' to this guy getting killed when they joined up with the police.

http://roarmag.org/2011/10/anarchists-communists-strike-riots-violence-greece/

Be wary of any Authoritarian scumbags trying to declare themselves your friends.

I`m an anarcho-capitalist and those guys are really scumbags.

I would never harm any private property or other people, unless of course for self defence.


Those red idiots who protest there are just a bunch of idiot brainwashed, thugs, or communists. They are heavy authoritarianists.

Marxism is good. The means of production must be owned by the state, ie the people.

Yea so instead of being the slave of the big corporations you can become the slave of the government.

Pretty good idea, why haven't i thought of this before?  

You deserve a nobel prize!

Ofcourse i deserve a nobel prize, because i know better mathematics than the IMF/EU idiots. Even a simple housewife knows better mathematics.

Ok Mr. math genius. So you say you know math, ok then explain to me the pension system.

So you pay your entire life's earnings, a % of it, in a pension fund, just so that you can get pension for 5-7 years before you die after you retire.
So as healthcare advances and people live longer, you will have to increase the retirement age for it to work out.

Now since the entire pension system & healcare system , both, are ponzi schemes, unless you get more loans from banksters, it will collapse, and the poor old woman will be left without pension.

So your stupid marxism, is what feeds the banksters. Every single penny that the government borrows, because it spends more than it gets, will attract all sorts of thieves and thugs to steal that money.

[GreenStox]

Marxism is good. The means of production must be owned by the state, ie the people.

The state =/= the people, oh yea like Marxism worked out in: Venezuela, Soviet Union, Cuba, East Europe. They were one of the worst places on earth, and you want to bring back the curse of communism back?

How many times has communism has to fail so that guys like you to understand it? Why the fuck do you use Bitcoin?

Because unless you realized, bitcoin respects private property, communists dont.

I respect the private property, i don't respect the private production.

Oh really, i think you are just a thief, because whatever private property we might own, you will always support thiefs who would rob that from us.

See if i own a farmland, you will eventually want to steal that from me, because you are just a thief who supports a biggest thief called the state.

And as with any good marx lover, his life does not fit what he preaches for others...

He is using hegelian dialectic, born liar, and that smile is so fake on his face.

Stalin also lived in a castle ....

[Balthazar]

Stalin also lived in a castle ....

Maybe. But unlike many others, Stalin has left nothing after death. Basically there were only his jacket, uniform and the shoes, all remaining property was state owned. What is the number of people like him?

[V for Varoufakis]

No, capitalists, like you, are thieves because they steal the profit of the productivity of the employees.

[GreenStox]

Stalin also lived in a castle ....

Maybe. But unlike many others, Stalin has left nothing after death. Basically there were only his jacket, uniform and the shoes, all remaining property was state owned. What is the number of people like him?

Why do you need any property after you die?  

He lived off his whole life from other people's hard work, he was a parasite. And on top of that he mass murdered many innocent people...

[GreenStox]

No, capitalists, like you, are thieves because they steal the profit of the productivity of the employees.

No because a job contract is voluntary, YOU CAN LEAVE WHENEVER YOU WANT. You can also make your own business if you want, nobody would stop you (except the state). Taxes are fucking not voluntary, it's basically an armed robbery!

Your system is based on violence and theft. Mine is based on freedom and voluntary, mutual association, and cooperation.

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Sorry but life isnt a pink paradise with ponies, you have to be able to make inteligent decisions for youself. And why should i pay for idiot's who made the wrong decision...