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May 25, 2015, 04:19:26 PM
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I want to warn everyone about Bitcart.io because its founder called Graham de Barra uses "Bitcoingenie" pseudonym for scamming.
Stay tuned.
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May 26, 2015, 11:11:08 AM
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Dear Ealoe,
At bitcart we take complaints made against our service very important and we would be glad to discuss your complaint with you further and in a transparent manner.

In order to establish the facts I request that you submit to us an elaboration of your claim. This may include concrete information as the the nature of your complaint.

As for our defense, we have been trading on localbitcoins.com for over 2 years with 1,000 satisfied customers as one of the longest bitcoin traders in the world. Our live feedback can be found here (https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/Geeney/feedback/)

We appreciate your claim and would like to take the time to apologise for any misunderstanding because we can assure you that bitcart are not scammers. Bitcart is a professional service and the best Amazon to bitcoin service currently in existence.

In case there is any doubt, here is a list of our most recent reviews:

May 25, 2015, 11:02 p.m.
+ Fast trade!!!!!!!!!
A+A+A+A+A+A+A+A

May 25, 2015, 5:29 p.m.
+ + Perfect Amazon GC redeem fine
+ perfect Low volume

May 25, 2015, 4:16 p.m.
+ the best

May 25, 2015, 3:42 p.m.
+ +++ Low volume

May 24, 2015, 10:41 p.m.
+

May 24, 2015, 8:31 p.m.
+ Awesome seller.
+×÷= BDB =÷×+ Low volume

May 24, 2015, 7:39 p.m.
+

May 24, 2015, 7:19 p.m.
+ Good trade and easy to deal with its was a good trade Low volume

May 24, 2015, 6:57 p.m.
+ Great trade

May 24, 2015, 12:35 p.m.
+ Perfect!

May 23, 2015, 9:12 p.m.
+

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June 06, 2015, 06:13:12 PM
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I did not say I was hampered by Bitcart.io, I was hampered by Graham de Barra who is the founder of Bitcart.io and uses the pseudonym "Bitcoingenie" for scamming for other platforms, such as the extinct Brawker platform.
If the founder of Bitcart.io applied blows on other platforms I think it's important to make a warning about Bitcart.io to be its founder a scammer!
And this fact, the chances of being harmed by Bitcart.io increase exponentially.
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June 06, 2015, 06:50:29 PM
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I want to warn everyone about Bitcart.io because its founder called Graham de Barra uses "Bitcoingenie" pseudonym for scamming.
Stay tuned.

This scam accusation isn't valid as you don't have any proofs to back your accusation. Can you tell when and how did he scam you or someone else with proofs?

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Last edit: July 21, 2015, 02:49:28 AM by moneypaks2btc.com
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Indeed, check his feedback page on Localbitcoins.com: <https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/Geeney/feedback/>. "Geeney" (and hence his service at www.bitcart.io) may have been legit at one time but it seems now he is a selective scammer at the best. So far he has scammed 14 people on LocalBitcoins from the looks of his negative review count. Admittedly that's a small percent of his transactions, which is why I took a chance on him, but the point is he is selectively scamming. I have reported him to Interpol, but who knows how long it will take them to investigate given the relatively small amount of money being dealt with here. Also reported him to Amazon, and they already have him under investigation with assets frozen anyway, according to him.

Below is my scam report on him:

What happened::  Graham ("Geeney" on LBC) sent me a $500 Amazon gift card. It loaded fine, but then 3 days later, Amazon emailed me saying the card was invalid and they couldn't give me further information. I told Graham this and he apologized, saying he bought the card from someone with good feedback. Then he offered to give me HALF my BTC back as compensation. I was a bit upset at that, since I don't think I should have to take a hit for his business not being 100% profitable (no business is always profitable, that's why you save up). He finally agreed to give me all the money back but then stopped talking to me until I threatened to contact authorities (which now has been done). At that point he called me a scammer, like the idiot that he obviously is. He will learn his lesson sooner or later.

Note to Graham if you are reading this: It is not beneficial to harm others. If you are having trouble sleeping at night, now you know why.

Scammers Profile Link: https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/Geeney/feedback/

Reference Link: http://s24.postimg.org/de3bgn35h/Screen_shot_2015_07_18_at_11_55_59_AM.png
Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
Payment Method:  Bitcoin via Localbitcoins.com
Proof of Payment: http://s16.postimg.org/6c79nr2o5/Screen_shot_2015_07_18_at_1_11_01_PM.png
PM/Chat Logs:  July 18, 2015, 11:56 a.m.
meaninglessness: You yourself admitted previously the code was no good. I sent you the email amazon sent me which proved it. But here, I'll paste it again and also take a screenshot. Makes not much sense to say I'm the scammer since you got hard money from me and I got a fraudulent gift card in exchange plus 2 weeks of basically no communication from you. Anyway yes you can not contact me after I give you neg feedback which will happen in a second. If you go to jail (and even if you manage to flee) please take the time to contemplate what you have done: this money was to be used to buy herbal supplements for my friend Patrick's cousin in Gabon who is dying of Hep. B. If he dies due to the delay caused by your scamming, you will have that karma on your hands. Is it worth hurting others so that you can enjoy some fleeting pleasures? Be honest with yourself.


Your Account   Amazon.com
Message From Customer Service
Hello,

I'm sorry to hear about the trouble you've had trying to use your gift card.

I've checked our records, and the claim code you included in your message isn't available for use.

For confidentiality reasons, I'm unable to explain further. I recommend contacting the person who bought the gift card for more information.

We hope to see you again soon.

Best regards,
Ashwin S.
Did I solve your problem?
Yes No
Your feedback is helping us build Earth's Most Customer-Centric Company.

Thank you.
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Original Message
Hi Arshed,

I don't know what that Gift certificate ID number is from, as I've never
seen it before. The gift card I attempted to load was this one:
AQPR-WHBX8H-VNLFA

Is that the same thing you are talking about? What exactly was invalid
about it and why did it take so long to find out it was invalid?

Thanks for your time.


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filename: screen-shot-2015-07-18-at-115559-am.png

July 18, 2015, 6:28 a.m.
Geeney : The code I sent you is fine. Now please step aside.

July 18, 2015, 6:27 a.m.
Geeney : I have special powers, I can still contact you and oooo look I can also leave feedback for you Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

July 18, 2015, 6:27 a.m.
Geeney : SCAMMER STAY AWAY

July 17, 2015, 10:13 p.m.
meaninglessness: Also, Graham, after I leave negative feedback there will be no way for you to contact me on here since you will be auto-blocked as well. But you have my BTC address to return the funds, and if that doesn't happen by Monday, I will have no choice but to contact Irish police and/or Interpol.

July 17, 2015, 8:19 p.m.
meaninglessness: I don't like to leave negative feedback and hurt folks' business but obviously I will if you keep ignoring me.

July 17, 2015, 8:16 p.m.
meaninglessness: I really really need to get this money back. What are you doing?

July 14, 2015, 10:06 p.m.
meaninglessness: Send to 1LD3WBWe41rQCjVv2WKq4ZmDfhb3tFdf8k

July 14, 2015, 10:05 p.m.
meaninglessness: Hi, can you just refund the coins (including the extra $10 I sent directly to you), since it seems you aren't getting cards anymore?

July 13, 2015, 11:01 p.m.
meaninglessness: Still nothing?

July 10, 2015, 10:44 a.m.
Geeney : hey i hope to get it to you by Monday if that's alright

July 10, 2015, 10:41 a.m.
meaninglessness: I can't afford to lose this money.

July 10, 2015, 10:41 a.m.
meaninglessness: Did you forget about me?

July 7, 2015, 4 p.m.
meaninglessness: Hey, still there?

July 4, 2015, 11:04 a.m.
meaninglessness: thanks

July 4, 2015, 11:04 a.m.
Geeney : I'll get it to you as soon as I can

July 4, 2015, 11:03 a.m.
meaninglessness: yeah that's fine as long as they work this time (fingers crossed)

July 4, 2015, 11:03 a.m.
Geeney : Sorry about the card I don't know why it reversed

July 4, 2015, 11:03 a.m.
Geeney : I'll look at reimbursing you with a $450 or smaller multiples over the next day or two if that's ok

July 4, 2015, 11:03 a.m.
meaninglessness: i'm not in a super rush so if you want to wait and see until Monday if they will verify it, that's fine
July 4, 2015, 11:02 a.m.
Geeney : Thanks for sending

July 4, 2015, 11:02 a.m.
meaninglessness: yes i have ID here.. btw I just emailed them so maybe they will be able to verify that it was your gift card.


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filename: joel-dlicense-1.jpg

July 4, 2015, 11 a.m.
Geeney : Do you have ID corresponding to your name on the Amazon account?

July 4, 2015, 10:58 a.m.
meaninglessness: Ok well this is I think the best I can get for you. I can't find anywhere where it shows "your" gift card and that yours has a zero balance. Maybe you can help me find where that would be. All I can find is this showing I have a zero balance and my last transactions. As you can see my transactions were prior to getting the gift card from you, so it shows I didn't just use the gift card up. But still it doesn't prove I didn't use the card on another account. I have no idea how to prove that to you.... unless I email Amazon and get them to maybe provide me with the gift card ID that was fraudulent, but I don't even know if they would.


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filename: screen-shot-2015-07-04-at-105655-am.png

July 4, 2015, 10:51 a.m.
Geeney : Please send me a screenshot of your Amazon account where it shows my gift card and your new balance.

July 4, 2015, 10:47 a.m.
meaninglessness: I sent you the email that amazon sent me to that support@bitcart.io address.

I understand that you and I both didn't get what we wanted, but I don't think that a 50% refund is acceptable. Not just because I'm anal, but you are the vendor and you are the one making profit on a daily basis, so you should be able to handle a small percentage of fraud. If I were buying these from you daily and 1 out of a hundred were bad, then I'd take your offer of half refunded, or I wouldn't even care about it perhaps. But I bought just one from you and now not only did I get nothing but my Amazon account is in danger of being banned if I give them one more bad card.

July 3, 2015, 5:54 a.m.
Geeney : can you send me all supporting documents and correspondence with amazon to support@bitcart.io thanks

July 3, 2015, 5:54 a.m.
Geeney : had* good feedback

July 3, 2015, 4:15 a.m.
Geeney : Hey sorry about that. the guy who sold it to me gad really good feedback here and he's been around for over a yr. I just clicked on his profile and he's already been banned Sad so there's no way to get him to reimburse me.

Would it be acceptable for you if I send you 50% back in btc?

July 3, 2015, 1:01 a.m.
meaninglessness: Oh man, so the gift card you gave me was just invalidated by Amazon and they say if I give them another bad gift card they will close my account!...
How can we resolve this??

"Hello,

The gift certificate you attempted to use is invalid.

Gift certificate ID's :
6097364440945773

Continued use of invalid gift certificates could result in the closure of your Amazon.com account.

Sincerely,

Arshed Z
Account Specialist
http://www.amazon.com
========================="

June 30, 2015, 4:53 p.m.
meaninglessness: oh right!

June 30, 2015, 4:52 p.m.
Geeney : please leave feedback and ill do the same

June 30, 2015, 4:52 p.m.
Geeney : thank you!

June 30, 2015, 4:51 p.m.
meaninglessness: thx again

June 30, 2015, 4:51 p.m.
meaninglessness: sending u another .043 btc now

June 30, 2015, 4:40 p.m.
Geeney : 500

June 30, 2015, 4:40 p.m.
Geeney : AQPR-WHBX8H-VNLFA

June 30, 2015, 11:18 a.m.
Geeney : send me the difference in btc:
16arjcjJHT3Hkr3PbN8t16JLYyb1vHzwRV

June 30, 2015, 11:18 a.m.
Geeney : ok

June 30, 2015, 9:01 a.m.
meaninglessness: that would be cool yeah i only have a total of 1.42btc or so

June 30, 2015, 8:45 a.m.
Geeney : hey i have 500 do you want?


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July 19, 2015, 09:26:21 PM
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Dear Meaninglessness,
You have been refunded earlier today. Thank you.

Best,
Bitcart team

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July 20, 2015, 01:01:16 AM
Last edit: July 21, 2015, 02:47:48 AM by moneypaks2btc.com
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Dear "Bitcart" (aka Geeney aka Graham):

Yes, you did refund me after being forced by LBC support staff to do so. Thank Goodness I didn't use your bitcart.io website or else I'm quite sure you never would have refunded me.

In any case, you forgot to give me the .043 BTC that you asked me to send you directly. I'll attach proof of that transaction here and also on LBC.

http://i.imgur.com/qVNlepZ.png
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July 20, 2015, 02:02:13 AM
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Sounds like you have some explaining to do bitcart.  Roll Eyes  If you want any business from experienced users on BCT that is.

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Update, yes, I've been fully paid off now. Geeney claims the whole thing was just a silly misunderstanding on his end, which of course is ludicrous if you look at the chat log because you'll see that he didn't confuse me for being a scammer until AFTER he had 1) offered to give me only half my money back, and 2) continually asked for more time to get me any money until eventually no contact at all. Had I not threatened him with taking this to Interpol etc., he never would have talked to me again, and had support not forced him to, he never would have repaid me.
It's not easy to understand why a vendor who is obviously legitimately making a ton of money would act in this way. The only explanation I have is some type of mental imbalance. That's not meant as an insult at all. I truly hope you get help, Geeney.
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July 21, 2015, 04:38:43 PM
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Dear Moneypacks,
Thank you for acknowledging the receipt of your refund.

Bitcart currently has an existing 1,200 customers and this is a unique case. However every trade means a lot to us and if there is ever any problems we are here to help, and reimburse any party such as in the current situation.

Since this trade with Moneypacks we have made 450 trades and here is our feedback:






July 21, 2015, 1:52 p.m.
+ SUPERSTAR SERVICE

July 21, 2015, 1:30 p.m.
+ Very quick trade! Great experience!

July 21, 2015, 11:37 a.m.
+ I recommend this vendor 100 %!!! no doubts!!!

July 20, 2015, 11:43 p.m.
+ GOOD SELLER AAA+++

July 20, 2015, 8:50 p.m.
+ 5* Low volume

July 20, 2015, 7:47 p.m.
+ Very fast Smiley thanks

July 20, 2015, 4:50 p.m.
+ good ttrade Low volume

July 20, 2015, 10:55 a.m.
+

July 20, 2015, 12:35 a.m.
+ the best

July 19, 2015, 10:03 p.m.
+ Good and very fast Low volume

July 19, 2015, 10 p.m.
+ Nice trader! +++++

July 19, 2015, 8:16 p.m.
+

July 19, 2015, 7:45 p.m.
+ Good trader

July 19, 2015, 7:05 p.m.
+ Very quick and easy trade, responsive trader. Thanks! -Mooiekonijntje

July 19, 2015, 6:34 p.m.
+ Low volume

July 19, 2015, 6:22 p.m.
+ trustworthy seller. excellent trade

July 19, 2015, 6:14 p.m.
+ Super fast 100% trusted seller best seller ever

July 19, 2015, 5:16 p.m.
+ its a real pleasure trading with this person

July 19, 2015, 3:11 p.m.
+

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July 21, 2015, 04:44:50 PM
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Sounds like you have some explaining to do bitcart.  Roll Eyes  If you want any business from experienced users on BCT that is.

Bitcart has been around for 2 and half years. We have 1,200 customers and over 10,000 trades.

https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/Geeney/


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Last edit: July 22, 2015, 04:35:21 AM by moneypaks2btc.com
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Dear Moneypacks,
Thank you for acknowledging the receipt of your refund.

Bitcart currently has an existing 1,200 customers and this is a unique case. However every trade means a lot to us and if there is ever any problems we are here to help, and reimburse any party such as in the current situation.


You are here to help? Then how come you didn't help, and instead you hurled insults at me, and you continue to leave your negative feedback on my page on LBC, calling me a malicious scammer (screenshot #1 & #3) after previously claiming you had confused me with a scammer somehow but then realized I was not a scammer (screenshot #2)? The only reason you refunded me was because LBC support forced you to.

You claim that for weeks, you wanted to reimburse me, but you couldn't scrounge up the coins to do so (or even the time to talk to me). Yet you also boast you do 50 deals per day. Where's all that profit going, dude? And how did you magically get the coins as soon as support threatened to suspend you?

I'm not the only one claiming you are a scammer, so don't even play that. As I said before, you are a selective scammer who obviously is legitimate most of the time. You have some mental issues or else you would not be doing this dumb s**t.

You need to contemplate this mess and realize that you are entirely in the wrong here. You deserve the neg I'm giving you, and I don't deserve the neg you are giving me.


Screenshot #1, proof you are still claiming I'm a scammer:
 http://i.imgur.com/zyjzUcz.png

Screenshot #2, proof you previously admitted it was all just your misunderstanding, confusing me with someone else:
http://i.imgur.com/kuMmwiG.png

Screenshot #3, proof that you removed the scammer accusation and then re-instated it a little later as your mood shifted:
http://i.imgur.com/l5zaHdp.png
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November 04, 2015, 05:59:08 PM
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Follows some information if you want to get there Interpol


Soon publish the emails exchanged with Graham , including those he recognizes his mistake ( stroke ) and promises to return the money obtained immorally


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