theymos is a government agent | do not use this forum it is honeypot

[Retard]

If i agree the theymos is the government agent ., then actually what will be the problem ?

that would mean a government agent has the ability to read or modify any bitcointalk data. They could be donig very bad things with this, especially since government hate things like bitcoin which give u back the personal freedoms they try to take from u. maybe you post a bitcoin address here to receive 10,000BTC for pizza and theymos just changes it and steals money to illegal fund war in Iraq.

I don't think agent is the most appropriate term here. I would think a more appropriate word to use would be employee, and one that is not acting in their official capacity when they made forum related decisions.

Theymos doesn't appear to receive any meaningful amounts of money from his work on the forum so he obviously needs a job in order to pay his bills.

haha just like the gestapo were 'just doing there job'. u really think there isn't more to this?

No, I think theymos is trying to pay his bills, just like everyone else that isn't on welfare.

He works for the clerk of the State Senate. The job description of the person he works for is as follows:
http://legis.wisconsin.gov/senate/scc/scc_Staff.htm

he Chief Clerk and Director of Operations of the Wisconsin Senate is a non-partisan officer elected by the full Senate every two years, based upon nomination of the majority party caucus. Besides his ceremonial duties as outlined in the Senate Rules, the Chief Clerk serves as the chief operating officer for the Senate, overseeing the personnel, purchasing, accounting, and general business functions of the Senate. He serves as Parliamentarian for the Senate, the clerk for the Committee on Senate Organization, and provides legal counsel to Senate leadership on behalf of the Senate as an institution. He is the official custodian of records and papers of the Senate and directs the production of the Senate Journal of Proceedings. The Chief Clerk and Director of Operations also supervises the operation of the office of the Senate Sergeant-at-Arms.

Plus it is pretty well known that theymos does have political views

theymos will always be a puppet of the state for me, he has gone to the dark side. We all know bitcointalk is most important site in bitcoin community, it would be very advantageous for state to be able to exert some control over it and now theymos and government are BFF. What would happen if theymos' boss(es) ask him to insert brower exploits into bitcointalk to rape all important peoples in bitcoin computers with spytools. theymos might do it out of fear of losing his job because 'he is just trying to pay his bills'.

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[GannickusX]

If i agree the theymos is the government agent ., then actually what will be the problem ?

that would mean a government agent has the ability to read or modify any bitcointalk data. They could be donig very bad things with this, especially since government hate things like bitcoin which give u back the personal freedoms they try to take from u. maybe you post a bitcoin address here to receive 10,000BTC for pizza and theymos just changes it and steals money to illegal fund war in Iraq.

Well if he really was what you say he is, yeah i guess he could be doing that but i still didnt see any conclusive proof of him being what you claim him to be

[Retard]

Here is PM theymos once send me:

Hello. I'm writing to let you know that due to a subpoena that I received related to a case against BFL, I was forced to release some of your PMs.

In particular, I released all PMs that you sent to or received from the following people, possibly even if you deleted the PM:

Inaba
BFL-Engineer
BFL_Josh
SLok
BFL_Sonny
BFL AM Dave
bcp19
nibbknot

I marked this information as confidential per this protective order, but this does not completely prevent the PMs from being made public. In particular, I believe that BFL has full access to the PMs and could choose to release them.

If you want to know exactly which PMs were released, respond to this PM and I'll look it up.

I regret that this was necessary. Hopefully it does not cause you any trouble.

open ur eyes ppl, theymos not to be trusted.

[SaltySpitoon]

Would be a pretty long run honeypot, even if Theymos wasn't behind it, Satoshi and Sirius made the forum, who is to say Satoshi didn't set up a honeypot? Do not use this forum in any way that would negatively effect you if Bitcointalk was a honeypot. I don't think "The Government" cares if you want to discuss Bitcoin. Think twice about doing something that could get you in trouble though.

[Retard]

If i agree the theymos is the government agent ., then actually what will be the problem ?

that would mean a government agent has the ability to read or modify any bitcointalk data. They could be donig very bad things with this, especially since government hate things like bitcoin which give u back the personal freedoms they try to take from u. maybe you post a bitcoin address here to receive 10,000BTC for pizza and theymos just changes it and steals money to illegal fund war in Iraq.

Well if he really was what you say he is, yeah i guess he could be doing that but i still didnt see any conclusive proof of him being what you claim him to be

you can please google and research yourself. It is well known that theymos' name is machael marquardt and he lives in wisconsin. he work this job, yes it isn't "spy" job, but is highly suspicious.

[Quickseller]

theymos will always be a puppet of the state for me, he has gone to the dark side. We all know bitcointalk is most important site in bitcoin community, it would be very advantageous for state to be able to exert some control over it and now theymos and government are BFF. What would happen if theymos' boss(es) ask him to insert brower exploits into bitcointalk to rape all important peoples in bitcoin computers with spytools. theymos might do it out of fear of losing his job because 'he is just trying to pay his bills'.

There are other jobs available where theymos lives. If that was a possibility then he probably would not have ever taken the job in the first place.

Most people on here know the importance of using GPG when discussing sensitive information, they mostly know how to detect changes to javascript. Plus the forum allows connections from tor exit nodes and works just fine without javascript enabled so the number of exploits he could use is rather small.

I think you are being overly paranoid

[Retard]

Would be a pretty long run honeypot, even if Theymos wasn't behind it, Satoshi and Sirius made the forum, who is to say Satoshi didn't set up a honeypot? Do not use this forum in any way that would negatively effect you if Bitcointalk was a honeypot. I don't think "The Government" cares if you want to discuss Bitcoin. Think twice about doing something that could get you in trouble though.

im not saying it was honeypot from the start, maybe idk, but i am saying overtime theymos has turned against the community, it is obvious and now that i know he works fro government that says it all as bitcointalk is #1 bitcoin target for government and of course government has interest in killing bitcoin.

[Retard]

So he was requested to give the information due to BFL being known scammers and having a case against the government, what did you expect him to do?

translation: theymos has fully complied with requests for information from government in the past. i am an innocent person, i commited no crime, government has no warrants for me or anything, yet my privacy was violated due to this, the government collected private information from innocent peoples who were not under investigation like me and it was with the help of theymos that they did it. how many other times has thing like this happen? how many times in future?

[JusticeForYou]

Here is PM theymos once send me:

Hello. I'm writing to let you know that due to a subpoena that I received related to a case against BFL, I was forced to release some of your PMs.

In particular, I released all PMs that you sent to or received from the following people, possibly even if you deleted the PM:

Inaba
BFL-Engineer
BFL_Josh
SLok
BFL_Sonny
BFL AM Dave
bcp19
nibbknot

I marked this information as confidential per this protective order, but this does not completely prevent the PMs from being made public. In particular, I believe that BFL has full access to the PMs and could choose to release them.

If you want to know exactly which PMs were released, respond to this PM and I'll look it up.

I regret that this was necessary. Hopefully it does not cause you any trouble.

open ur eyes ppl, theymos not to be trusted.

Actually, that is really nice of him. I'm surprise there wasn't a gag on the subpoena.

[Quickseller]

So he was requested to give the information due to BFL being known scammers and having a case against the government, what did you expect him to do?

translation: theymos has fully complied with requests for information from government in the past. i am an innocent person, i commited no crime, government has no warrants for me or anything, yet my privacy was violated due to this, the government collected private information from innocent peoples who were not under investigation like me thanks to theymos.

The person/people you were communicating with are/were under investigation. Theymos was served with a legal order demanding the information that would most likely hold up in most courts around the world.

It should be noted that there are rumors that your account was hacked and if this is the case then you very much would be committing a crime

[Retard]

Here is PM theymos once send me:

Hello. I'm writing to let you know that due to a subpoena that I received related to a case against BFL, I was forced to release some of your PMs.

In particular, I released all PMs that you sent to or received from the following people, possibly even if you deleted the PM:

Inaba
BFL-Engineer
BFL_Josh
SLok
BFL_Sonny
BFL AM Dave
bcp19
nibbknot

I marked this information as confidential per this protective order, but this does not completely prevent the PMs from being made public. In particular, I believe that BFL has full access to the PMs and could choose to release them.

If you want to know exactly which PMs were released, respond to this PM and I'll look it up.

I regret that this was necessary. Hopefully it does not cause you any trouble.

open ur eyes ppl, theymos not to be trusted.

Actually, that is really nice of him. I'm surprise there wasn't a gag on the subpoena.

gag order on subpoena is not legally binding. only NSL can have legally binding gags.

[Hazir]

Seriously? This is getting a bit ridiculous, if Theymos was a government agency I bet that a lot more illegal activity would have been shut down a lot quicker. This site was made by Satoshi, is he a government agent as well?

Nothing is certain. We still have no clue about identity of Satoshi but seeing how everything is connected in the bitcoin world. Government conspiracy is not out of the question here.
But what knowing this information change for normal bitcoin users? Probably nothing. So move on, nothing to see here.

[FromRussia]

[XinXan]

OP, agree with you 100%. It all makes perfect sense now. Bitcointalk's not just a honeypot, it  continuously does its best to devalue Bitcoin by making bitcoiners appear to be greedy, brainless scumbags to the rest of the world.

inb4 NO!!!11!:

-Why continuous, hilarious security breaches? "MY SERVICE PROVIDER GAVE ANON ROOT" How is it that forums without $1.5 million in the till manage to not have this shit happen, again and again?

-Who but an enemy saboteur would create a special ponzi section on a forum dedicated to discussing and promoting Bitcoin?

-Who but a government plant would encourage buying & selling of bitcointalk user accounts, so that those accounts could, in turn, spam this forum with meaningless drivel at best & more likely scam other bitcoiners?

-Why do you suppose a forum, operated by a US person from US soil, is allowed to continue promoting ponzis & illegal, unregistered "bitcoin securities" (which inevitably turn out to be 100% fraud & run away)?

Think about it.

There are plenty of big companies that have been hacked in the past, doesnt matter their budget or how big they are, that doesnt prove anything. As why do they "promote" ponzies wich they not, it was already mentioned plenty of times that is better to have them all in 1 place, i dont agree with it but its what it is. The other points you are using are just theories and conspiracies with no real evidence behind them

[achow101_alt]

Name these "big companies" with websites constantly going offline (for days on end) because their service providers were "social engineered" to hand over root password to their servers.

Bitcointalk is not constantly going offline. The last time Bitcointalk went down was over a year ago.

Many companies do not have their websites going offline for days at a time because a) they have their own servers and b) they have teams of people fixing the problem instead of only one guy.

As why do they "promote" ponzies wich they not, it was already mentioned plenty of times that is better to have them all in 1 place, i dont agree with it but its what it is.

Having a section dedicated to promotion of ponzis is promoting ponzis, no lie.
And how is it that a forum started to discuss and promote Bitcoin suddenly has not just gambling & warez selling sections, but a section dedicated to ponzis? Which friend of Bitcoin thought this is a good idea?
Wake up, bro!

The section dedicated to ponzis and investment games is there to protect people. If these scams were not moved into the section where the top of each thread has a massive warning about gambling and potential loss, then many people would be scammed and Bitcoin would be further brought down by the number of scams. Having these in their own subsection hidden inside the gambling section prevents people from being scammed and keeps all of the ponzis in one place.

[Retard]

Name these "big companies" with websites constantly going offline (for days on end) because their service providers were "social engineered" to hand over root password to their servers.

Bitcointalk is not constantly going offline. The last time Bitcointalk went down was over a year ago.

lawl, it goes offline all the time. i am getting errors right now. probably a ddos.

[redsn0w]

Another useless thread, this forum is more better and awesome (every day) and the soc. engir. attack was really impressive.

[BitcoiNaked]

Seriously? This is getting a bit ridiculous, if Theymos was a government agency I bet that a lot more illegal activity would have been shut down a lot quicker. This site was made by Satoshi, is he a government agent as well?

maybe he was and all planned for him to 'dissapear' to make things more mysteriousssss and instead another agent took things over.

[Retard]

Another useless thread, this forum is more better and awesome (every day) and the soc. engir. attack was really impressive.

How is it useless?all you need to know is in OP, theymos works for state legislatures.

[achow101_alt]

Not sure I understand.
You're saying that discussion of bitcoin is impossible without subfora dedicated to promoting gambling, ponzis & warez?
Are these things somehow intrinsic to bitcoin?

No, I'm not saying that. But, with the subforums dedicated to gambling, ponzis, and warez, the newbies and people who don't know what they are doing are less likely to be drawn into scams since it is made abundantly clear that things in these forums could be scams and that you could lose your money. If these weren't there, then threads promoting scams would be everywhere and it would be difficult to know what a scam is, what could be a scam, or what is legit.

Another useless thread, this forum is more better and awesome (every day) and the soc. engir. attack was really impressive.

How is it useless?all you need to know is in OP, theymos works for state legislatures.

It got a little off-topic.