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September 09, 2012, 09:35:00 AM
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Hab gestern einen vorbestellt. Lieferung angeblich anfang nov
Hat jemand von euch auch einen vorbestellt bzw erfahrungen mit bfl und deren produkte?

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September 09, 2012, 09:36:29 AM
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halt uns einfach auf den laufenden...
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September 09, 2012, 09:59:47 AM
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woher weißt du das die Teile Anfang nov kommen? auf der hp steht ja immer noch October

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September 09, 2012, 10:35:28 AM
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In der bestätigung hieß es ende oktober/anfang november.
Ich gehe mal einfach vom schlechteten fall aus, ausserdem dauert die lieferung nach d ja auch
Ausserdem gibts ja bei bfl noch die 1/3 regel
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September 09, 2012, 01:32:41 PM
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Special Preorder ist aber schon lange zuende O.o Dabei sind mehr als 6500 Stück rausgegangen.

BFL claims they start shipping in October.
Like this page says they really promise.

Though my question is, wich items you are gonna ship first?
Are you guys first gonna ship the Jalapenos and maybe a couple of SC Mini rigs?
For example: as far we can guess it's maybe gonna takes another 4 months after October before you ship the Single SC units, though the shipping started in October alright like promised.
Can BFL give us maybe a little bit clarification on that area?

Thanks.
They said somewhere (no idea where, search the forum?) that they'll ship them all at the same time.

Here's the policy clarification again:

http://www.butterflylabs.com/products/

The initial orders will be grouped into a batch prior to shipment.  This will ensure no one is an unfair beneficiary of disproportionate hashing power.  Having said this, we only have so much production capacity and the initial order group will still do very very well.  That being the case, here are the rules we will stick to in releasing these units.

1/3rd of the units will go in order priority of purchase date.
1/3rd of the units will go to trade in customers.
1/3rd of the units will go to random orders placed in the first month (6/23 - 7/23).

Both priority customers and trade in customers may benefit from random selection prior to their natural shipping order.


Refunds and charge backs:  All sales are final unless we fail to perform.  That includes both performance and shipping targets.  60 days past target and we'll happily refund your purchase.  If you would really like a refund anyway, just ask and we'll probably be able to take care of you.  Nonetheless, we reserve the right to handle it on a case by case basis.

Daher rechne du einfach mal mit Dezember ggbfs Januar mit der Geld zurück Garantie bei nicht einhaltung Cheesy Hast eben recht spät bestellt oder du musst genügend glück haben ^^

Es sei den die haben ihre produktions kette geändert ....
Wobei es noch immer offene bestellungen für den FPGA miner von dennen nach fast 1/2 auch noch offen sind ...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77796.0
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September 21, 2012, 12:26:31 PM
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Hab ebenfalls einen bestellt, allerdings auch erst vor ner Woche... mal sehen ob ich Glueck hab, plus wenn sie genug Bestellungen haben machen sie sicher auch noch ne zweite Runde.
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October 01, 2012, 12:17:27 AM
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"Little Single" klingt interessant.
Ich bin aber noch skeptisch.


Announcement: BFL ASIC - Release specifications
Butterfly Labs reveals final performance specifications for it's revolutionary ASIC hardware.

BitForce Jalapeno - 4.5gh/s @ 4.5w
BitForce Single SC - 60 GH/s @ 60w
BitForce MiniRig SC - 1,500 GH/s @ 1,500w

Power figures are +/- 10% of those listed while we finish optimizing our power subsystem.

NEW An as yet named 'Little Single' device which will hash at a rate of 30 GH/s and cost USD $649.00.

You may notice that these performance figures exceed that of our previously published specification by approximately 50%. Our intention was to eventually over deliver while also being conservative during development. We had planned to reserve this performance increase for a future firmware update and was one method we planned to use to protect our customers in the event of a price war. However, due to the maturity of our development and competition in the market, we felt it was time to clarify what customers will actually receive both in speed and particularly in power consumption so they can properly evaluate their options and make good decisions. We hope it's now easier to understand the closed lip approach of our ASIC line product development.

A pledge to our customers: Butterfly Labs has always been committed to our customers. With the transition to ASIC from FPGA, we offered a 100% buyback program on the purchase price of your FPGA units towards the purchase of one of our ASIC units. This is an offer currently unmatched by any other manufacturer. People have asked why would we do this? We do this because our mission is to stand behind our customers and preserve the value of their hardware investment through all market changes, now and in the future. Simply put, you can count on us to protect your mining investment.

In summary, all current orders are automatically 4.5 GH/s - 60 GH/s or 1.5 TH/s devices. You need do nothing, just wait for delivery.

Our Value pledge: As always, our focus has been on offering the most competitive product, both in terms of initial price but also the most competitive TCO in the industry. Our current power consumption targets for our first generation ASIC products are approximately 1 GH per watt, far and away the lowest power consuming units available at any price. Not only will our products perform faster than any other product currently available, it will also cost less to run now and in the future. As with our FPGA products, when the time comes for our second generation ASIC products, we will not forget our customers and will make every effort to transition you, the customer, to the second generation ASIC as easily, quickly and in the most cost effective manner as possible.
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October 01, 2012, 08:14:32 PM
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Wo hast du diese Info her?

"Little Single" klingt interessant.
Ich bin aber noch skeptisch.


Announcement: BFL ASIC - Release specifications
Butterfly Labs reveals final performance specifications for it's revolutionary ASIC hardware.

BitForce Jalapeno - 4.5gh/s @ 4.5w
BitForce Single SC - 60 GH/s @ 60w
BitForce MiniRig SC - 1,500 GH/s @ 1,500w

Power figures are +/- 10% of those listed while we finish optimizing our power subsystem.

NEW An as yet named 'Little Single' device which will hash at a rate of 30 GH/s and cost USD $649.00.

You may notice that these performance figures exceed that of our previously published specification by approximately 50%. Our intention was to eventually over deliver while also being conservative during development. We had planned to reserve this performance increase for a future firmware update and was one method we planned to use to protect our customers in the event of a price war. However, due to the maturity of our development and competition in the market, we felt it was time to clarify what customers will actually receive both in speed and particularly in power consumption so they can properly evaluate their options and make good decisions. We hope it's now easier to understand the closed lip approach of our ASIC line product development.

A pledge to our customers: Butterfly Labs has always been committed to our customers. With the transition to ASIC from FPGA, we offered a 100% buyback program on the purchase price of your FPGA units towards the purchase of one of our ASIC units. This is an offer currently unmatched by any other manufacturer. People have asked why would we do this? We do this because our mission is to stand behind our customers and preserve the value of their hardware investment through all market changes, now and in the future. Simply put, you can count on us to protect your mining investment.

In summary, all current orders are automatically 4.5 GH/s - 60 GH/s or 1.5 TH/s devices. You need do nothing, just wait for delivery.

Our Value pledge: As always, our focus has been on offering the most competitive product, both in terms of initial price but also the most competitive TCO in the industry. Our current power consumption targets for our first generation ASIC products are approximately 1 GH per watt, far and away the lowest power consuming units available at any price. Not only will our products perform faster than any other product currently available, it will also cost less to run now and in the future. As with our FPGA products, when the time comes for our second generation ASIC products, we will not forget our customers and will make every effort to transition you, the customer, to the second generation ASIC as easily, quickly and in the most cost effective manner as possible.
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October 01, 2012, 08:20:14 PM
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Stammt von der BFL-Homepage  (dort im Forum) und ist im englischen Forum schon mindestens ein Dutzend mal (meist ohne Quellenangabe) zitiert worden.
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October 01, 2012, 08:21:16 PM
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Wo hast du diese Info her?

"Little Single" klingt interessant.
Ich bin aber noch skeptisch.


Announcement: BFL ASIC - Release specifications
Butterfly Labs reveals final performance specifications for it's revolutionary ASIC hardware.

BitForce Jalapeno - 4.5gh/s @ 4.5w
BitForce Single SC - 60 GH/s @ 60w
BitForce MiniRig SC - 1,500 GH/s @ 1,500w

Power figures are +/- 10% of those listed while we finish optimizing our power subsystem.

NEW An as yet named 'Little Single' device which will hash at a rate of 30 GH/s and cost USD $649.00.

You may notice that these performance figures exceed that of our previously published specification by approximately 50%. Our intention was to eventually over deliver while also being conservative during development. We had planned to reserve this performance increase for a future firmware update and was one method we planned to use to protect our customers in the event of a price war. However, due to the maturity of our development and competition in the market, we felt it was time to clarify what customers will actually receive both in speed and particularly in power consumption so they can properly evaluate their options and make good decisions. We hope it's now easier to understand the closed lip approach of our ASIC line product development.

A pledge to our customers: Butterfly Labs has always been committed to our customers. With the transition to ASIC from FPGA, we offered a 100% buyback program on the purchase price of your FPGA units towards the purchase of one of our ASIC units. This is an offer currently unmatched by any other manufacturer. People have asked why would we do this? We do this because our mission is to stand behind our customers and preserve the value of their hardware investment through all market changes, now and in the future. Simply put, you can count on us to protect your mining investment.

In summary, all current orders are automatically 4.5 GH/s - 60 GH/s or 1.5 TH/s devices. You need do nothing, just wait for delivery.

Our Value pledge: As always, our focus has been on offering the most competitive product, both in terms of initial price but also the most competitive TCO in the industry. Our current power consumption targets for our first generation ASIC products are approximately 1 GH per watt, far and away the lowest power consuming units available at any price. Not only will our products perform faster than any other product currently available, it will also cost less to run now and in the future. As with our FPGA products, when the time comes for our second generation ASIC products, we will not forget our customers and will make every effort to transition you, the customer, to the second generation ASIC as easily, quickly and in the most cost effective manner as possible.

1. Butterfly Labs - Homepage
2. Butterfly Labs - Facebook
3. gibt es diverse Threads hier im englischen Forum dazu

Die Daten wurden auch schon auf der Homepage in die FAQ eingepflegt, das einzige was fehlt ist der "Little Single"
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October 01, 2012, 09:20:05 PM
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ich hätte u.U. ein paar Jalapenos bestellt- aber habe auf Nachfrage KEINE Antwort erhalten!

Anscheinend hat die Firma keine Lust auf "kleinvieh" ...

Ich habe die Daten die ihr hier gepostet habt nicht auf die Schnelle gefunden.

Wenn jemand was verkaufen will, aber auf eine simple Frage GAR nicht antwortet (auch wenn die Frage u.U. schon irgendwo im Internet beantwortet wurde)... sowas geht gar nicht.

Ich war früher Selbständig, hätte ich mein "Business" so geführt... wäre ich ganz ganz schnell pleite gewesen...

 
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October 01, 2012, 10:27:19 PM
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ich hätte u.U. ein paar Jalapenos bestellt- aber habe auf Nachfrage KEINE Antwort erhalten!

Anscheinend hat die Firma keine Lust auf "kleinvieh" ...

Ich habe die Daten die ihr hier gepostet habt nicht auf die Schnelle gefunden.

Wenn jemand was verkaufen will, aber auf eine simple Frage GAR nicht antwortet (auch wenn die Frage u.U. schon irgendwo im Internet beantwortet wurde)... sowas geht gar nicht.

Ich war früher Selbständig, hätte ich mein "Business" so geführt... wäre ich ganz ganz schnell pleite gewesen...

Ich habe bis jetzt auf alle meine Fragen innerhalb 1-2 Tagen Antwort erhalten.
Montag's ist generell schlecht für Fragen, da sich bei BFL übers Wochenende hunderte an E-Mails Anstauen!

Und sonst....im BFL-Forum findest du fast alle Infos.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/forum.php

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October 02, 2012, 07:47:24 PM
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ich hätte u.U. ein paar Jalapenos bestellt- aber habe auf Nachfrage KEINE Antwort erhalten!

Anscheinend hat die Firma keine Lust auf "kleinvieh" ...

Ich habe die Daten die ihr hier gepostet habt nicht auf die Schnelle gefunden.

Wenn jemand was verkaufen will, aber auf eine simple Frage GAR nicht antwortet (auch wenn die Frage u.U. schon irgendwo im Internet beantwortet wurde)... sowas geht gar nicht.

Ich war früher Selbständig, hätte ich mein "Business" so geführt... wäre ich ganz ganz schnell pleite gewesen...

Ich habe bis jetzt auf alle meine Fragen innerhalb 1-2 Tagen Antwort erhalten.
Montag's ist generell schlecht für Fragen, da sich bei BFL übers Wochenende hunderte an E-Mails Anstauen!

Und sonst....im BFL-Forum findest du fast alle Infos.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/forum.php

Gruss
Tinu

oh yeah, und warum reagieren Inaba und Emaku, die Arbeiten bei BFL in Englisch Forum immer innerhalb von 5 Minuten, wenn ein beitrag ist uber BFL ..? es riecht wie ein Betrug

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oh yeah, und warum reagieren Inaba und Emaku, die Arbeiten bei BFL in Englisch Forum immer innerhalb von 5 Minuten, wenn ein beitrag ist uber BFL ..? es riecht wie ein Betrug
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Versteh Dein Post nicht,
Inaba arbeitet bei BFL, da kann er schon mal antworten (und er ist übrigens auch Betreiber vom Eclipse Pool)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16385.0
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oh yeah, und warum reagieren Inaba und Emaku, die Arbeiten bei BFL in Englisch Forum immer innerhalb von 5 Minuten, wenn ein beitrag ist uber BFL ..? es riecht wie ein Betrug

Weil es um Marktanteile geht, jeder Tausender den die Community an die Konkurrenz (jetzt) an Mitbewerber zahlt landet garantiert nicht in der eigenen Kasse. Das Budget ist wegen der maximal möglichen ROI erkennbar gedeckelt und andere Anwendungsfelder/Märkte sind auch nicht zu holen.

Auch wenn das Geschäftsgebahren von BFL einigermaßen undurchsichtig ist, bei Betrug hätten die einige Details der neuen 'Produkte' schon genannt ohne rot zu werden.

@stiftmaster

Das die Marketingmaschine auf hochtouren läuft ist doch nicht zu übersehen, das BFL für signaturen bezahlt und evtl. auch den ein oder anderen bekannten Namen zum trommeln schickt, dürfte auch nicht allzuweit von der Wahrheit entfernt sein. Mal als Beispiel kommt gigavp plötzlich auf die Idee die Stromaufnahme der ASIClösungen vergleichen zu müssen, und wiegelt Preis/GHash/s ab es ginge da nur um die Stromaufnahme.
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October 02, 2012, 09:47:34 PM
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 Smiley ich lass mich einfach überraschen, wenn der der 1. hier mit seinem/n jalapeno mint
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Smiley ich lass mich einfach überraschen, wenn der der 1. hier mit seinem/n jalapeno mint

ja genau  Wink

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Smiley ich lass mich einfach überraschen, wenn der der 1. hier mit seinem/n jalapeno mint

Kann's auch ein Single 'SC' sein?  Wink
Ich denke schon, dass die Im November kommen. Noch so ein Debakel wie mit den FPGa's kann sich BFL nicht erlauben.

Wo ich enttäuscht bin ist, dass die Avalon's erst im Februar ausgeliefert werden sollen.
Wenn die BFL's und bASIC wirklich pünktlich im November kommen, scheint mir dies wirklich spät!
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