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October 14, 2015, 01:39:35 AM
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instead of investing try lending money to other users , its way higher interest rate and youll make way more money.
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October 14, 2015, 06:34:35 AM
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instead of investing try lending money to other users , its way higher interest rate and youll make way more money.
its sometimes risky to lend money to other people who might lend and run away with your coins
just be cautious in lending if the user has good/bad reputation


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October 14, 2015, 09:12:02 AM
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instead of investing try lending money to other users , its way higher interest rate and youll make way more money.

hemm you can use BTCjam
i see some legit user who paying you with small interest, but your risk small too


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October 14, 2015, 09:20:36 AM
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so, what id like to do is invest bitcoins to a stock or mutual fund account, but am not sure the best way to go about it. any tips/advice?

I have programmed a system:
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it is why it is an unique systel seeable on the net many people believe ...wrong.
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October 14, 2015, 09:47:26 AM
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so, what id like to do is invest bitcoins to a stock or mutual fund account, but am not sure the best way to go about it. any tips/advice?

The volatility of bitcoin makes it unwise to invest on.  I think it is better if you just hold on to it and sell it if the price goes up. 

All investment are risky, that's true, but there is no profit without a risk. What you should do is to get informed about the investments that you are interested in and gain some experience. So try with small amounts first and never invest more then you are ready to loose.

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October 14, 2015, 10:21:56 AM
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so, what id like to do is invest bitcoins to a stock or mutual fund account, but am not sure the best way to go about it. any tips/advice?

The volatility of bitcoin makes it unwise to invest on.  I think it is better if you just hold on to it and sell it if the price goes up. 

All investment are risky, that's true, but there is no profit without a risk. What you should do is to get informed about the investments that you are interested in and gain some experience. So try with small amounts first and never invest more then you are ready to loose.

with my investment system you take none risk...you can just make only little profit.
This is the point than people are not understanding with my system.

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October 14, 2015, 11:50:47 PM
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so, what id like to do is invest bitcoins to a stock or mutual fund account, but am not sure the best way to go about it. any tips/advice?

One way to invest in bitcoin is to simply buy some.  You can sell this if the price goes up giving you a profit.
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October 15, 2015, 02:48:42 AM
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so, what id like to do is invest bitcoins to a stock or mutual fund account, but am not sure the best way to go about it. any tips/advice?

The volatility of bitcoin makes it unwise to invest on.  I think it is better if you just hold on to it and sell it if the price goes up. 

All investment are risky, that's true, but there is no profit without a risk. What you should do is to get informed about the investments that you are interested in and gain some experience. So try with small amounts first and never invest more then you are ready to loose.

with my investment system you take none risk...you can just make only little profit.
This is the point than people are not understanding with my system.
what type of investment is that? investment without risk? that is so impossible. i think that is a scam, can you please let me know the system of your investment or how it works and explain to us how you can assure that your investment system doesn't have risk.

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October 15, 2015, 07:26:10 AM
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so, what id like to do is invest bitcoins to a stock or mutual fund account, but am not sure the best way to go about it. any tips/advice?

The volatility of bitcoin makes it unwise to invest on.  I think it is better if you just hold on to it and sell it if the price goes up.  

All investment are risky, that's true, but there is no profit without a risk. What you should do is to get informed about the investments that you are interested in and gain some experience. So try with small amounts first and never invest more then you are ready to loose.

with my investment system you take none risk...you can just make only little profit.
This is the point than people are not understanding with my system.
what type of investment is that? investment without risk? that is so impossible. i think that is a scam, can you please let me know the system of your investment or how it works and explain to us how you can assure that your investment system doesn't have risk.

I have already explained at least 10 times.
No risk because you get back your investisment.
Your investment is not placed on risky places,but on my wallet.
Your investisment is just used to dispach dividends.
Dividends comes from sponsors...who advertise on the site.

so investors have principal back and a dividend.
I cannot understand why so many people believe it is a scam...
winspiral...it's me (lol) is already a known webmaster for already over 20 years...
Why should He (he is me)(lol) a nice morning wake up and say ti himself...why not scam?

No pronlem what people believe...
I inform and people invest if they believe that it is interesting (and if they trust...of course)
if you do not trust...do not invest...
Yoy can say 100 times:
""I believe winspiral is a scammer""...or...
But if you say winspiral is a scammer...then you are a liar.

So far,on this forum I ave many negative words...
Most of them I accept...because they are writen in a good form...in an opinion form...ok
But I can not accept a strong afirmative way saying that winspiral is a scammer.
So far only one positive vote for winspiral...and it is from an investor...
I accept that you warn people against scam...
But in my mind...if people accuse a person without proof..;I think it is nor fair and the accusators are more guilty than the innocent webmaster.

I invite all the ceptical people to follow my site where you can see in full transparence the process and then you take your own decision.

If you follow the progress of my site,you can see that investment without risk is NOT IMPOSSIBLE.
A French saying says:
IMPOSSIBLE IS NOT FRENCH.(lol)

Ok...my site is not for investors who earn I do not know where 100% in 1 day...or sometimes more...
My site is for people who have sleeping satoshi on their wallet and wand earn a little something with my principle.You can believe in my system or not...you can find it uninteresting...ok
But please do nor accuse me as a scammer...
I have all these internet years never scammed and i will not do.
Of course you have never said I'm a scammer...but it is almost systematicly say...

People cannot understand that winspiral is on the net for the fun above all...
I propose for the fun earning few satoshi...and for this I am negatively voted...
alone this...is funny (lol)
People see ponzi everywhere and pass away from good systems...and in the meantime scammers earn...earn...earn...



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October 15, 2015, 07:37:36 AM
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There will always be a risk when you invest your bitcoins. That's a solid fact.

not for early adopter, would you say the same if bitcoin was to start from zero right now?

i would by a shitload without thinking even for once, because i would have very little to lose

it's all about the reward/risk ratio nothing else
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October 16, 2015, 05:51:46 AM
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so, what id like to do is invest bitcoins to a stock or mutual fund account, but am not sure the best way to go about it. any tips/advice?

The volatility of bitcoin makes it unwise to invest on.  I think it is better if you just hold on to it and sell it if the price goes up.  

All investment are risky, that's true, but there is no profit without a risk. What you should do is to get informed about the investments that you are interested in and gain some experience. So try with small amounts first and never invest more then you are ready to loose.

with my investment system you take none risk...you can just make only little profit.
This is the point than people are not understanding with my system.
what type of investment is that? investment without risk? that is so impossible. i think that is a scam, can you please let me know the system of your investment or how it works and explain to us how you can assure that your investment system doesn't have risk.

I have already explained at least 10 times.
No risk because you get back your investisment.
Your investment is not placed on risky places,but on my wallet.
Your investisment is just used to dispach dividends.
Dividends comes from sponsors...who advertise on the site.

so investors have principal back and a dividend.
I cannot understand why so many people believe it is a scam...
winspiral...it's me (lol) is already a known webmaster for already over 20 years...
Why should He (he is me)(lol) a nice morning wake up and say ti himself...why not scam?

No pronlem what people believe...
I inform and people invest if they believe that it is interesting (and if they trust...of course)
if you do not trust...do not invest...
Yoy can say 100 times:
""I believe winspiral is a scammer""...or...
But if you say winspiral is a scammer...then you are a liar.

So far,on this forum I ave many negative words...
Most of them I accept...because they are writen in a good form...in an opinion form...ok
But I can not accept a strong afirmative way saying that winspiral is a scammer.
So far only one positive vote for winspiral...and it is from an investor...
I accept that you warn people against scam...
But in my mind...if people accuse a person without proof..;I think it is nor fair and the accusators are more guilty than the innocent webmaster.

I invite all the ceptical people to follow my site where you can see in full transparence the process and then you take your own decision.

If you follow the progress of my site,you can see that investment without risk is NOT IMPOSSIBLE.
A French saying says:
IMPOSSIBLE IS NOT FRENCH.(lol)

Ok...my site is not for investors who earn I do not know where 100% in 1 day...or sometimes more...
My site is for people who have sleeping satoshi on their wallet and wand earn a little something with my principle.You can believe in my system or not...you can find it uninteresting...ok
But please do nor accuse me as a scammer...
I have all these internet years never scammed and i will not do.
Of course you have never said I'm a scammer...but it is almost systematicly say...

People cannot understand that winspiral is on the net for the fun above all...
I propose for the fun earning few satoshi...and for this I am negatively voted...
alone this...is funny (lol)
People see ponzi everywhere and pass away from good systems...and in the meantime scammers earn...earn...earn...



i am not accusing you, as user of bitcoin doubts can't lost on me.can you please give me the url of your investment site. And can anyone prove to me that they invest into your site and they not lose any money and earn some profit?

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October 16, 2015, 12:51:28 PM
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instead of investing try lending money to other users , its way higher interest rate and youll make way more money.

Higher interest rate?
But you squeeze their precious time to pay you back.

I ever think to give lend to my friend with some interest for my benefit.
But after i see their condition, i think to make "higher" interest rate for who really in need help. It's not a good way to earn money.

Also if in a real life, you can get arrested with shark loan accusation.

When you do research well, certainly you will find something that valualbe to invest.
AltCoin for example.
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so, what id like to do is invest bitcoins to a stock or mutual fund account, but am not sure the best way to go about it. any tips/advice?

The volatility of bitcoin makes it unwise to invest on.  I think it is better if you just hold on to it and sell it if the price goes up.  

All investment are risky, that's true, but there is no profit without a risk. What you should do is to get informed about the investments that you are interested in and gain some experience. So try with small amounts first and never invest more then you are ready to loose.

with my investment system you take none risk...you can just make only little profit.
This is the point than people are not understanding with my system.
what type of investment is that? investment without risk? that is so impossible. i think that is a scam, can you please let me know the system of your investment or how it works and explain to us how you can assure that your investment system doesn't have risk.

I have already explained at least 10 times.
No risk because you get back your investisment.
Your investment is not placed on risky places,but on my wallet.
Your investisment is just used to dispach dividends.
Dividends comes from sponsors...who advertise on the site.

so investors have principal back and a dividend.
I cannot understand why so many people believe it is a scam...
winspiral...it's me (lol) is already a known webmaster for already over 20 years...
Why should He (he is me)(lol) a nice morning wake up and say ti himself...why not scam?

No pronlem what people believe...
I inform and people invest if they believe that it is interesting (and if they trust...of course)
if you do not trust...do not invest...
Yoy can say 100 times:
""I believe winspiral is a scammer""...or...
But if you say winspiral is a scammer...then you are a liar.

So far,on this forum I ave many negative words...
Most of them I accept...because they are writen in a good form...in an opinion form...ok
But I can not accept a strong afirmative way saying that winspiral is a scammer.
So far only one positive vote for winspiral...and it is from an investor...
I accept that you warn people against scam...
But in my mind...if people accuse a person without proof..;I think it is nor fair and the accusators are more guilty than the innocent webmaster.

I invite all the ceptical people to follow my site where you can see in full transparence the process and then you take your own decision.

If you follow the progress of my site,you can see that investment without risk is NOT IMPOSSIBLE.
A French saying says:
IMPOSSIBLE IS NOT FRENCH.(lol)

Ok...my site is not for investors who earn I do not know where 100% in 1 day...or sometimes more...
My site is for people who have sleeping satoshi on their wallet and wand earn a little something with my principle.You can believe in my system or not...you can find it uninteresting...ok
But please do nor accuse me as a scammer...
I have all these internet years never scammed and i will not do.
Of course you have never said I'm a scammer...but it is almost systematicly say...

People cannot understand that winspiral is on the net for the fun above all...
I propose for the fun earning few satoshi...and for this I am negatively voted...
alone this...is funny (lol)
People see ponzi everywhere and pass away from good systems...and in the meantime scammers earn...earn...earn...



i am not accusing you, as user of bitcoin doubts can't lost on me.can you please give me the url of your investment site. And can anyone prove to me that they invest into your site and they not lose any money and earn some profit?

So far none can prove such thing because the plan is for 100 days and so far the site is only 60 days old.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171677.0

There you can find the link and on the site all is give in full transparence.
If you analyse seriously you can see that the more for a give income is invested,the more the ROI is low.
The more the ROI is low,the more it is uninteresting to invest.
Do you think if I would run a scam I would be enough idiot to programme a system where investors are not interested to invest if the ROI goes down?





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October 17, 2015, 12:52:01 AM
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There will always be a risk when you invest your bitcoins. That's a solid fact.

not for early adopter, would you say the same if bitcoin was to start from zero right now?

i would by a shitload without thinking even for once, because i would have very little to lose

it's all about the reward/risk ratio nothing else

That is 100% true. There will be a always risks involved when you invest either in bitcoin or in any other investment products. If you don't invest then your money will depreciate over the time to beat inflation you have to choose some investment product based on your risk level. I suggest if one can't take more risk then gold will be better option to invest money.
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instead of investing try lending money to other users , its way higher interest rate and youll make way more money.

That's true but now a days this forum lenders become more than takers. You may not get much business here but also do lend money without proper collateral.
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I have already explained at least 10 times.
No risk because you get back your investisment.
Your investment is not placed on risky places,but on my wallet.
Your investisment is just used to dispach dividends.
Dividends comes from sponsors...who advertise on the site.

so investors have principal back and a dividend.
I cannot understand why so many people believe it is a scam...
winspiral...it's me (lol) is already a known webmaster for already over 20 years...
Why should He (he is me)(lol) a nice morning wake up and say ti himself...why not scam?

No pronlem what people believe...
I inform and people invest if they believe that it is interesting (and if they trust...of course)
if you do not trust...do not invest...
Yoy can say 100 times:
""I believe winspiral is a scammer""...or...
But if you say winspiral is a scammer...then you are a liar.

So far,on this forum I ave many negative words...
Most of them I accept...because they are writen in a good form...in an opinion form...ok
But I can not accept a strong afirmative way saying that winspiral is a scammer.
So far only one positive vote for winspiral...and it is from an investor...
I accept that you warn people against scam...
But in my mind...if people accuse a person without proof..;I think it is nor fair and the accusators are more guilty than the innocent webmaster.

I invite all the ceptical people to follow my site where you can see in full transparence the process and then you take your own decision.

If you follow the progress of my site,you can see that investment without risk is NOT IMPOSSIBLE.
A French saying says:
IMPOSSIBLE IS NOT FRENCH.(lol)

Ok...my site is not for investors who earn I do not know where 100% in 1 day...or sometimes more...
My site is for people who have sleeping satoshi on their wallet and wand earn a little something with my principle.You can believe in my system or not...you can find it uninteresting...ok
But please do nor accuse me as a scammer...
I have all these internet years never scammed and i will not do.
Of course you have never said I'm a scammer...but it is almost systematicly say...

People cannot understand that winspiral is on the net for the fun above all...
I propose for the fun earning few satoshi...and for this I am negatively voted...
alone this...is funny (lol)
People see ponzi everywhere and pass away from good systems...and in the meantime scammers earn...earn...earn...



i am not accusing you, as user of bitcoin doubts can't lost on me.can you please give me the url of your investment site. And can anyone prove to me that they invest into your site and they not lose any money and earn some profit?

So far none can prove such thing because the plan is for 100 days and so far the site is only 60 days old.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171677.0

There you can find the link and on the site all is give in full transparence.
If you analyse seriously you can see that the more for a give income is invested,the more the ROI is low.
The more the ROI is low,the more it is uninteresting to invest.
Do you think if I would run a scam I would be enough idiot to programme a system where investors are not interested to invest if the ROI goes down?





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they will not give any interest if the return on investment is low, because investors want high return and not low, and why you have a negative trust in this thread? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1072220.160;topicseen what is the reason why you get that negative trust?

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October 17, 2015, 09:47:38 PM
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so, what id like to do is invest bitcoins to a stock or mutual fund account, but am not sure the best way to go about it. any tips/advice?
I don't know if there is any bitcoin mutual funds.
Just buy and hold them, rather than investing it.
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October 18, 2015, 09:49:53 AM
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I have already explained at least 10 times.
No risk because you get back your investisment.
Your investment is not placed on risky places,but on my wallet.
Your investisment is just used to dispach dividends.
Dividends comes from sponsors...who advertise on the site.

so investors have principal back and a dividend.
I cannot understand why so many people believe it is a scam...
winspiral...it's me (lol) is already a known webmaster for already over 20 years...
Why should He (he is me)(lol) a nice morning wake up and say ti himself...why not scam?

No pronlem what people believe...
I inform and people invest if they believe that it is interesting (and if they trust...of course)
if you do not trust...do not invest...
Yoy can say 100 times:
""I believe winspiral is a scammer""...or...
But if you say winspiral is a scammer...then you are a liar.

So far,on this forum I ave many negative words...
Most of them I accept...because they are writen in a good form...in an opinion form...ok
But I can not accept a strong afirmative way saying that winspiral is a scammer.
So far only one positive vote for winspiral...and it is from an investor...
I accept that you warn people against scam...
But in my mind...if people accuse a person without proof..;I think it is nor fair and the accusators are more guilty than the innocent webmaster.

I invite all the ceptical people to follow my site where you can see in full transparence the process and then you take your own decision.

If you follow the progress of my site,you can see that investment without risk is NOT IMPOSSIBLE.
A French saying says:
IMPOSSIBLE IS NOT FRENCH.(lol)

Ok...my site is not for investors who earn I do not know where 100% in 1 day...or sometimes more...
My site is for people who have sleeping satoshi on their wallet and wand earn a little something with my principle.You can believe in my system or not...you can find it uninteresting...ok
But please do nor accuse me as a scammer...
I have all these internet years never scammed and i will not do.
Of course you have never said I'm a scammer...but it is almost systematicly say...

People cannot understand that winspiral is on the net for the fun above all...
I propose for the fun earning few satoshi...and for this I am negatively voted...
alone this...is funny (lol)
People see ponzi everywhere and pass away from good systems...and in the meantime scammers earn...earn...earn...



i am not accusing you, as user of bitcoin doubts can't lost on me.can you please give me the url of your investment site. And can anyone prove to me that they invest into your site and they not lose any money and earn some profit?

So far none can prove such thing because the plan is for 100 days and so far the site is only 60 days old.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171677.0

There you can find the link and on the site all is give in full transparence.
If you analyse seriously you can see that the more for a give income is invested,the more the ROI is low.
The more the ROI is low,the more it is uninteresting to invest.
Do you think if I would run a scam I would be enough idiot to programme a system where investors are not interested to invest if the ROI goes down?





they will not give any interest if the return on investment is low, because investors want high return and not low, and why you have a negative trust in this thread? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1072220.160;topicseen what is the reason why you get that negative trust?
[/quote]

The reasons of begative trust is :
supposition of ponzi sheme
supposition of scam
supposition of horrible design

So far for over 20 years they have not found more...

About the interest or not interest for lor return you are right.
But I will return you the situation:
it is not because the return is low that people are not much interested.
it is because people are much interested that the return is low.

My principle are always the same:
One cake and rules to get a part of the cake.
if too much people are interested for a cake...the parts are small if behind this interest incomes are small.

Sorry if people see my systems like a sponzi...at my eyes it is not a ponzi.

If I offert 10000 satoshi and 1000 people are interested to share these 1000 satoshi...then unfortunatellly I give only 10 satoshi to claimers...where is the ponzi sheme in this story?
And with all my sites it is the same "talk about"...
people take more time to critic me then for reading my sites.
if they did...they would see that it is a choice to take or not to take.







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October 18, 2015, 09:57:40 AM
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instead of investing try lending money to other users , its way higher interest rate and youll make way more money.

Too risky, even BTCJam are experiencing defaulted loans. They can't do anything about it, though. Better hold than to invest bitcoins, it seems. Your investment would likely go 0 if you don't think before putting money on to something.

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As for now I don't think there are secure ways to invest bitcoins in mutual funds or stocks as those investments are a subject to market risks.However if you still wish to use bitcoins for stocks ,you can try illegal trading websites on the dark web.They accept bitcoins but on commission basis.The are like your agents making sure you're investments are safe with them.I WOULD NOT suggest to go by dark webs as there is a much higher risks involved.

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