ndnhc[resolved]

[SOAD]

Well the accusation is true, its right here haha. Well even if he uses any of those excuses the account: question2 its just weird. Obviously it is an alt account of someone, 2/4 of his posts are on dadice threads wich is very strange, too many coincidences are often not simply coincidences..

Well it wouldn't be true if the account was purchased and that's someone elses address, but I agree it's too much of a coincidence. Wallet addresses that are spendlinked are pretty damning proof of alt accounts but it doesn't stop people coming out with excuses to try wriggle out of it.

[meren]

Is ndnhc guilty? Why he is not online and replied here yet?

[SOAD]

I think even before this accusation he was missing. The campaign he is running has even been temporarily taken over by someone else but will be back according to them. See the dadice thread and post by cara.

[Joca97]

hmm i still cant belive ndnhc is behind all of this,this is a complete shock...my conversations with him were always positive and he was really nice to me

But now when i see that he had an alt and was trying to blackmail me im shocked,and now i know that o most no body is to trust even people with Positive trust rate

Also i would like to thank quickseller for finding this out,the forum is alive because of people like you,thank you very much for solving this!!!

[DiamondCardz]

Hmm...
Anon with an unpronounceable five-character name?
In the gambling section?
Here, in my Bitcointalk?
...not 100% legit?! 
Impossible!

I wouldn't have called ndnhc untrusted, he's been here for a couple years, he's had enough time to get up to Hero Member and he does have a decent amount of positive trust (both on the Trusted side and the Untrusted side). That's why this case is extremely confusing and that's why I want to see what the resolution will be for it.

[PolarPoint]

I am stunned by this. A seemingly trustworthy campaign operator could blackmail another member like this. He had positive trust too. This just shows no one can be trusted when it comes to money. 

[XinXan]

Well the accusation is true, its right here haha. Well even if he uses any of those excuses the account: question2 its just weird. Obviously it is an alt account of someone, 2/4 of his posts are on dadice threads wich is very strange, too many coincidences are often not simply coincidences..

Well it wouldn't be true if the account was purchased and that's someone elses address, but I agree it's too much of a coincidence. Wallet addresses that are spendlinked are pretty damning proof of alt accounts but it doesn't stop people coming out with excuses to try wriggle out of it.

You mean ndnhc account getting purchased? Why would he sell his account? And his address is older than a few days. Or if you mean the other account getting purchased, no way, why would someone buy a brand new account? Or a newbie account, makes no sense. It just seems like he made the account to extorsionate the other guy, made 2 posts left the account and later came back and started posted again

[DiamondCardz]

I am stunned by this. A seemingly trustworthy campaign operator could blackmail another member like this. He had positive trust too. This just shows no one can be trusted when it comes to money.  

Yeah, it is quite sad to see something like this. However, even as a person with 94 trust points I will state that you shouldn't automatically see positive trust and assume the person is extremely trusted. You can start doing that once we're talking 3-digit trust scores. Obviously someone with a trust score that's double-digits is still decently trustworthy, but not enough to instantly think they'll always be legitimate.

[DiamondCardz]

Hmm...
Anon with an unpronounceable five-character name?
In the gambling section?
Here, in my Bitcointalk?
...not 100% legit?!  
Impossible!

I wouldn't have called ndnhc untrusted ...

It's OK, you're still young.
This should explain how to separate the trustworthy from untrustworthy on Bitcointalk:

Er, okay. I'm going to assume you're just trying to make a joke...? But seriously, you can't really distinguish that easily. The best tactic is just to not give your trust out *too* easily.

-Dad, what's that white stuff in bird shit?
-That's bird shit too, Son.

Actually the white stuff in bird shit is mostly uric acid, created to compensate for a lack of water. Just sayin'.

[Blazed]

He is not really all that trusted when you look at his feedback. Pretty much all of his feedback is from running that campaign, and he does not even touch the funds...devthedev does.

[Carra23]

From my interactions with ndnhc, he always came across as a friendly and good person. I will wait to see his side of the explanation. There is always the chance that he was framed. After all it is surprising that someone will take the effort to create a new account to extort, but use an old address.

So, ndnhc made this account(question2) to extort .1BTC from Joca97? Why did he do this? As a signature campaign manager, he must be getting more income more than average person.

He does.

[XinXan]

Another weird thing is that he hasnt been online since 2 days almost and when i go to his trust ratings it doesnt say anything about him changing his password wich is weird after the recent events on the forum getting hacked, although that wouldnt explain this since the address he posted on his main account was posted years ago

[tspacepilot]

Strangely, I see his trust as a yellow "".  Never seen that before.  Maybe a weird math error in whatever the new trust calculation code is.

Edit: He's still not in the red O_o

He is now.

This is quite damming evidence, and it will be interesting to hear the defense.

With QuickSeller around, I'm glad I never had/have any secret alt accounts.   

[hilariousandco]

Well the accusation is true, its right here haha. Well even if he uses any of those excuses the account: question2 its just weird. Obviously it is an alt account of someone, 2/4 of his posts are on dadice threads wich is very strange, too many coincidences are often not simply coincidences..

Well it wouldn't be true if the account was purchased and that's someone elses address, but I agree it's too much of a coincidence. Wallet addresses that are spendlinked are pretty damning proof of alt accounts but it doesn't stop people coming out with excuses to try wriggle out of it.

You mean ndnhc account getting purchased? Why would he sell his account? And his address is older than a few days. Or if you mean the other account getting purchased, no way, why would someone buy a brand new account? Or a newbie account, makes no sense. It just seems like he made the account to extorsionate the other guy, made 2 posts left the account and later came back and started posted again

Maybe the person who we thought was ndnhc bought that account a while ago before he started running the campaign and those old addresses belong to the previous owner (unless they were posted more recently - hard to investigate seeing as search is broken). Hard to say for sure but that's the risk when buying accounts.

[Twipple]

Ok, I just have a theory which may or may not be true . But it is a possibility . I have never done business with ndnhc . But I happened to have used an address recently on purpose which was related to him. Kind of something I did on random but not to toss around any accusations, It was for something I do not wish to disclose, neither will I . The address I posted in a way was linked to ndnhc .



Recently after my account was wrongly accused of something I am not even remotely related with. Quickseller even gave me a negative trust because of it . I even started a few threads on Meta against Quickseller denying all the things, and providing proof that I bought the account , and It seemed to have pissed him off.  Now no one knew that I posted that address and it was related to ndhnc, but only Quickseller did, probably because he was stalking me since a while to find something to relate me to a scam or something.

Anyways, he never even talked about bought it until today.
Now suddenly I saw this thread today , and I didn't want to get related to ndnhc, from the address I posted a couple weeks back , so naturally I went ahead and deleted it.

Now suddenly all of a sudden Quickseller posted this : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1072974.msg11473720#msg11473720

He claimed and knew about the address I had posted.

Here is what I believe:
Quickseller is pissed off with me , since I might be one reason he went off the trust list, even though he is back now. I believe he created an alt question2 to get it a negative trust. He tried to get ransom from another user Joca who he found out had an alt account somehow. (Only Quickseller is good enough to figure out alts so well) .
Then he posted some guy's address, which in a way linked to someone, I had posted an address to about couple days back. I believe the next step after ndnhc denying everything , would be Quickseller claiming of me to have posted an address related to ndnhc , and he would claim, that I am question2, and therefore getting negative trust on me permanently, and him taking revenge with me.

Here is why I believe so:
I was just looking at all the threads and question2's activity on the forum. It seems question2 posted a thread against Joca on May 10th. Now, I don't really expect someone to be following some scammer for a long time, since there are so many people on the forum with negative trust. question2 posted the address just yesterday : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996260.msg11467648#msg11467648

at 9:44 PM.

And just after , Quickseller started this thread, like he has been following the scammer from a long time, which I see no reason why he would do so, and that too from a Games and Rounds thread.
After this Quickseller made that post today
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1072974.msg11473720#msg11473720

Looking at the whole thing, I now feel Quickseller is only doing so , to get me a permanent negative trust in a way revenge by him .

Again, I can't be sure, but I see no other reason why Quickseller follows me like crazy, and didn't even post about that address before, even after I was accused of being an alt of a scammer by him. He also happened to be following that other guy question2 , right when he posted the address, and started the scam accusation. Now before this gets to me, I wanted to clarify everything about what I feel on this. I already have a negative trust by quickseller, wouldn't bother if I get more anyways.

This theory is only true, if ndnhc denies the accusation against him. Its just a hunch  that I have because of a few things. One of them is the address user question2 posted 12Ey8KPWPcv22VVUdZWCTQFZH97Yy1XAuE , if you look it up on blockchain, it hasn't had any transaction in the last 5 months, which could mean 2 things.
ndnhc was trying to use another address for the giveaway, or someone is trying to frame him .

[XinXan]

Twipple please stop embarrasing yourself, ok we get it, you dont like quickseller, he left you a negative trust rating and now you are devoting your life to trashtalk him through the forum and no im not one of his alts. What do you mean you happened to hse an address on purpose wich was related to him? You deleted becausr you saw this thread and got scared? Or did you delete it because you are another alt of ndnhc and you didnt want people to know and when quickseller found out you deleted it?

[Twipple]

Twipple please stop embarrasing yourself, ok we get it, you dont like quickseller, he left you a negative trust rating and now you are devoting your life to trashtalk him through the forum and no im not one of his alts. What do you mean you happened to hse an address on purpose wich was related to him? You deleted becausr you saw this thread and got scared? Or did you delete it because you are another alt of ndnhc and you didnt want people to know and when quickseller found out you deleted it?

I don't care about embarrassing myself firstly. He left me a negative trust for me not being a scammer. I saw this thread today, and deleted it right after. But Quickseller was too quick on following that. He knew I had posted a similar address and quickly pointed out. Don't you think that if he knew I posted ndhnc's address a month back, then he would have started this thread right then ? Since according to QS I am a scammer, so that would have made ndhnc a scammer as well.

But again, I am not going to make any conclusions until ndhnc comes online to defend himself. Because until that happens, we might just be arguing for no reason.

[hilariousandco]

... hard to investigate seeing as search is broken ...

The search on Bitcointalk never worked right.
This is how search works:
http://www.google.com/advanced_search
Or simply stick "site:bitcointalk.org" in Google search.

Search previously worked fine for finding addressed but not so good for other things.

[OrangeSeller]

Is this a vendetta from quick seller? Quick seller of course dont like ndnhc after he allowed tspacepilot to join the campaign even after quick seller give red trust to tspacepilot

[OrangeSeller]

Very funny, from among so many people posting their address on giveaway, quick seller checked the address of question2? Coincidence?