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May 28, 2015, 08:09:03 PM |
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Here in Portugal, the hot is coming out strong so now and I can't place the miners inside my house.
So I put them outside where they are covered below one balcony and where the sun and rain never hits.
I think this solution is even better because its more fresh and ventilated outside than indoors.
Now in cold weathers I will place them inside to heat the room and in hotter weathers i will put them outside.
Do you think its safe? There is any danger to the miner's/PSU's that I might possibly missed?
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May 28, 2015, 09:00:23 PM |
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what about some dust from street, insect, humidity and other factors which may happen?.) imho it is not good idea at all..
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May 29, 2015, 08:17:21 AM |
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As others mentioned dust can be a real problem. It will build up from making it through fan and build up all over.
It can cause a ugly buildup and depending on how long and bad it's possible to hurt exhaust enough to actually hurt your miner.
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May 29, 2015, 04:26:40 PM |
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Dust, theives and other concerns but I would definitely make a makeshift cover out of maybe a plastic tub with large areas for air to leave but maybe disguise the units a bit more.
A plastic cover isn't going to keep the dust out, but it will keep the heat in. The only way to stop dust is with air filtration, and it's pretty hard to filter all of the air outside.
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May 29, 2015, 05:44:12 PM |
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I would if I had the option but I live out in the wild... Too many animals would fuck around with my miners, chew on wires, fry themselves to death, frying my entire grid. Sounds like a lot could go wrong if not enclosed somehow. I'd also recommend to put a filter in front of your intake fan... Typically, I recommend women's stockings because they're cheap , widely available and work as a filter in 99% of applications. That's what I use for in my water pumps for gold mining... cleaning them's a stitch too.
As for an enclosure, unless your area is prone to crime or gamer wildlife, then something like a doggie kennel should work keeping most by-passers out. Also don't be an idiot and watch out your power line... power and water don't mix; good way to kill a miner instantly.... you might survive. However, in any case... Always Safety First!
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Mikestang
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May 29, 2015, 05:44:36 PM |
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It would need to be a dust tight seal at the bottom, too, can't just place it upside down resting on the ground. And then you've have to evacuate the heat from the tub, as well.
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May 29, 2015, 06:34:57 PM |
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what about some dust from street, insect, humidity and other factors which may happen?.) imho it is not good idea at all..
easy fixable with a mosquito net, that can maybe be enough strong to protect from others pesky stuff as well, still the rain is a problem if there is a strong wind
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May 29, 2015, 07:10:22 PM |
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Here in Portugal, the hot is coming out strong so now and I can't place the miners inside my house.
So I put them outside where they are covered below one balcony and where the sun and rain never hits.
I think this solution is even better because its more fresh and ventilated outside than indoors.
Now in cold weathers I will place them inside to heat the room and in hotter weathers i will put them outside.
Do you think its safe? There is any danger to the miner's/PSU's that I might possibly missed?
Moisture, dust etc. Any issues with those?
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MCHouston
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May 29, 2015, 07:32:50 PM |
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As long as no one can get to them you may be okay as long as you are not near the coast.
Very high humidity might be an issue over time.
They will not cause condensation cause they will always be warm.
Try blowing them out with an air compressor every month or so to keep dust under control.
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Mr. Burns
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May 30, 2015, 02:58:40 AM |
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to hell with mining. it would have taken me like 22 years to get 0.5 btc with my S3's and S1, but i sold them on ebay and got the money immediately. i mean what gives dude.
why the hell are u mining. to give me money? or to waste electricity or what?
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droizs (OP)
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May 30, 2015, 03:03:51 AM |
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Thank you all for the suggestions it really helped me.
Today I put them inside a cabinet, removed some drawers and made some holes in the back of the cabinet.
I think this will work.. Now for the dust and insects I will try use glass socks (or whatever they call them in English) they are kinda of transparent socks and I think they will do the work better than any air filter.
Regarding the humidity I think will not be a problem since I don't live near coast + the miners are more protected now and the weather conditions are just ok.
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droizs (OP)
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May 30, 2015, 03:11:58 AM |
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to hell with mining. it would have taken me like 22 years to get 0.5 btc with my S3's and S1, but i sold them on ebay and got the money immediately. i mean what gives dude.
why the hell are u mining. to give me money? or to waste electricity or what?
22 years to mine 0.5btc?? what calculations are you doing? To give you money? what do you mean by that? I'm mining just to gather as much bitcoins as i can because i believe that in a near future the exchange rate will raise and then I will make my ROI. And ofc not paying electricity is a BIG help I start mining in 10/2014 and I already have more than 4btc...
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May 30, 2015, 04:05:21 AM |
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to hell with mining. it would have taken me like 22 years to get 0.5 btc with my S3's and S1, but i sold them on ebay and got the money immediately. i mean what gives dude.
why the hell are u mining. to give me money? or to waste electricity or what?
22 years to mine 0.5btc?? what calculations are you doing? To give you money? what do you mean by that? I'm mining just to gather as much bitcoins as i can because i believe that in a near future the exchange rate will raise and then I will make my ROI. And ofc not paying electricity is a BIG help I start mining in 10/2014 and I already have more than 4btc... 22 years is impossible. The gear would be obsolete in a few years. So I'm unsure how he came up with this math. Add difficulty change and miner gear getting out of date. Even 2-3 years is longer then it will run chances are. You need decent electricity pricing. If you have high electricity you are going to lose that is true. But it is not a one size fit's all. Some will profit some will not. All depends on your specific situation. Also from earlier conversations here is a example of someone using windows to exhaust heat outside and have miners running inside - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=766998.msg11476707#msg11476707
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droizs (OP)
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May 30, 2015, 05:39:51 AM |
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to hell with mining. it would have taken me like 22 years to get 0.5 btc with my S3's and S1, but i sold them on ebay and got the money immediately. i mean what gives dude.
why the hell are u mining. to give me money? or to waste electricity or what?
22 years to mine 0.5btc?? what calculations are you doing? To give you money? what do you mean by that? I'm mining just to gather as much bitcoins as i can because i believe that in a near future the exchange rate will raise and then I will make my ROI. And ofc not paying electricity is a BIG help I start mining in 10/2014 and I already have more than 4btc... 22 years is impossible. The gear would be obsolete in a few years. So I'm unsure how he came up with this math. Add difficulty change and miner gear getting out of date. Even 2-3 years is longer then it will run chances are. You need decent electricity pricing. If you have high electricity you are going to lose that is true. But it is not a one size fit's all. Some will profit some will not. All depends on your specific situation. Also from earlier conversations here is a example of someone using windows to exhaust heat outside and have miners running inside - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=766998.msg11476707#msg11476707I will not install fans in the windows glass or leave my windows always open to exhaust heat... that isn't very common or practical where i live.
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notlist3d
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May 30, 2015, 07:12:38 AM |
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to hell with mining. it would have taken me like 22 years to get 0.5 btc with my S3's and S1, but i sold them on ebay and got the money immediately. i mean what gives dude.
why the hell are u mining. to give me money? or to waste electricity or what?
22 years to mine 0.5btc?? what calculations are you doing? To give you money? what do you mean by that? I'm mining just to gather as much bitcoins as i can because i believe that in a near future the exchange rate will raise and then I will make my ROI. And ofc not paying electricity is a BIG help I start mining in 10/2014 and I already have more than 4btc... 22 years is impossible. The gear would be obsolete in a few years. So I'm unsure how he came up with this math. Add difficulty change and miner gear getting out of date. Even 2-3 years is longer then it will run chances are. You need decent electricity pricing. If you have high electricity you are going to lose that is true. But it is not a one size fit's all. Some will profit some will not. All depends on your specific situation. Also from earlier conversations here is a example of someone using windows to exhaust heat outside and have miners running inside - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=766998.msg11476707#msg11476707I will not install fans in the windows glass or leave my windows always open to exhaust heat... that isn't very common or practical where i live. Then that idea will not work for you. You would need a way to exhaust through window or other ways on heat. If your truly running them outside look inside of one of the miners in a week or two and I think you will see the build up and why so many suggest not mining with miner open to elements outdoors.
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June 06, 2015, 02:56:41 PM |
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Honestly just leave them outside and check the weather from time to time to make sure it will not rain.
The S3 and the PSU aren't worth that much to begin with.
You are better off leaving them outside then leaving them indoors turned off - which makes no money what so ever.
Every month that goes by is a huge risk of difficulty going higher or price going lower. Make the money now while you still can.
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June 06, 2015, 03:36:51 PM |
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My 2 cents
U need to be able to put them outside where they are secure from thieves, rain & dust.
These are ur major factors.
Whatever miners ur running will need some sort of container to go around your miner which follows the same type of setup as ur miner.
So ur box ur miner sits in should have air vents on either end where ur fans are to allow air thru & should also have some sort of air filter to stop any dust getting into ur miners. (Nothing should impead airflow)
Your cover box should also keep any rain off ur miners & power supplys, If possible to mount ur containers using a security bolt of some unusual type so that thieves wont come & lift ur miners.. ( When u do this, Think about noise, Cause noise to anyone around u will attract attention which in turn could attract thieves)
Follow the ideas here & u should be right...
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June 07, 2015, 03:57:53 AM |
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I've bought a few used S3's that have been buggered up thick with cigarette smoke, pet dander, and household dust. I couldn't image that the outdoors would have been worse for these S3s. It took some time with an air compressor to get that gunk out and I can still smell the cigarette residue coming out of these S3's exhaust.
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June 07, 2015, 07:29:37 AM |
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I've bought a few used S3's that have been buggered up thick with cigarette smoke, pet dander, and household dust. I couldn't image that the outdoors would have been worse for these S3s. It took some time with an air compressor to get that gunk out and I can still smell the cigarette residue coming out of these S3's exhaust.
the same happend to me with my two old g-blade, they were full of dust and there was that annoying smell of burnt, like something, as if something inside it was burned i guess, seeing how they practically they give them for free(price is ridiculous low), they don't bother cleaning it
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June 08, 2015, 07:16:36 PM |
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Put pantyhose over the air intake and clean it daily, dust problem = solved.
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