Bitcoin Core or XT? POLL

[redsn0w]

Gavin is ousted. Nobody will use XT. His chain will die off quickly and he'll hopefully be forgotten soon. I just hope the other devs stay at the project. Gavin needs to GTFO.

Can you stop with this useless posts (or better FUD)? Try to counteract an opinion or agree with someone or maybe better propose something against the Gavin's proposal, instead to spread FUD and something like "No one will use XT". How do you know this thing?

[alani123]

Turns out Gavin doesn't even support blocks as large as 20 Mb. This misconception was a result of a mathematical miscalculation he made.

https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/604862985404702721

[ajareselde]

Gavin is ousted. Nobody will use XT. His chain will die off quickly and he'll hopefully be forgotten soon. I just hope the other devs stay at the project. Gavin needs to GTFO.

Can you stop with this useless posts (or better FUD)? Try to counteract an opinion or agree with someone or maybe better propose something against the Gavin's proposal, instead to spread FUD and something like "No one will use XT". How do you know this thing?

Well i for one agree with Gavin that changes must be made, better now than later. But his attitude is way off; He sounds like some child; if you dont play with me, ill tell mommy..
If im not mistaken there will be a lot of confusion soon enough, double spending and what not..

[R2D221]

Turns out Gavin doesn't even support blocks as large as 20 Mb. This misconception was a result of a mathematical miscalculation he made.

https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/604862985404702721

That's not Gavin, but Peter Todd. What Gavin is proposing is still 20 MB blocks, even if other people say otherwise.

[redsn0w]

Gavin is ousted. Nobody will use XT. His chain will die off quickly and he'll hopefully be forgotten soon. I just hope the other devs stay at the project. Gavin needs to GTFO.

Can you stop with this useless posts (or better FUD)? Try to counteract an opinion or agree with someone or maybe better propose something against the Gavin's proposal, instead to spread FUD and something like "No one will use XT". How do you know this thing?

Well i for one agree with Gavin that changes must be made, better now than later. But his attitude is way off; He sounds like some child; if you dont play with me, ill tell mommy..
If im not mistaken there will be a lot of confusion soon enough, double spending and what not..

Yes, the change it will be needed sooner or later but this time it went in this way (because most probable he was so tired about of the 'not-consensus' by other dev). The unique secure thing that with this modify bitcoin will not go mainstream , a couple of dev can't agree in something, so what we are talking about? I am still thinking they should not decide for us, let them discuss....

[GTO911]

Can someone share this poll on Bitcoin reddit? We can have a wider and better picture of community interests if more people vote

[redsn0w]

Can someone share this poll on Bitcoin reddit? We can have a wider and better picture of community interests if more people vote

I have used reddit only few times so I don't know if this is correct or not :

- https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37z4py/bitcoin_core_or_xt_poll/

[GTO911]

I have used reddit only few times so I don't know if this is correct or not :

- https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37z4py/bitcoin_core_or_xt_poll/

Nice, Thanks

[manselr]

Im undecided. I don't want a fork, but then again, I don't see any of you proposing anything better.

[QuestionAuthority]

Im undecided. I don't want a fork, but then again, I don't see any of you proposing anything better.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1075323.0;topicseen

[oblivi]

Im undecided. I don't want a fork, but then again, I don't see any of you proposing anything better.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1075323.0;topicseen

That is just a nice theory, but where are the alternatives to the fork? the lightning network stuff may take way more than the limit we have for 2016 before the 1MB size limit is reached and becomes a real problem.

[QuestionAuthority]

Im undecided. I don't want a fork, but then again, I don't see any of you proposing anything better.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1075323.0;topicseen

That is just a nice theory, but where are the alternatives to the fork? the lightning network stuff may take way more than the limit we have for 2016 before the 1MB size limit is reached and becomes a real problem.

I don't think it really matters. Gavin has no intention of allowing majority rule. This is a Gavinopoly and he will prevail.

[futureofbitcoin]

if he prevails, that means the majority agreed with him. At least the majority of people who matter.

[TaunSew]

If the miners decide the future then Bitcoin Core would win, as most miners are only chasing profit and money in the end.

Bitcoin XT is essentially an alternate, a $hitcoin at best with some trivial improvements, and Gavin & company are going to discover how hard it is to compete as an alternative.  With the exception of Litecoin and Doge, who are still living off money from the 2013 bubble, I doubt a new $hitcoin of BTC can really propel itself into the top 5.

[redsn0w]

 

I have used reddit only few times so I don't know if this is correct or not :

- https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37z4py/bitcoin_core_or_xt_poll/

Nice, Thanks

You are welcome.

If the miners decide the future then Bitcoin Core would win, as most miners are only chasing profit and money in the end.

Bitcoin XT is essentially an alternate, a $hitcoin at best with some trivial improvements, and Gavin & company are going to discover how hard it is to compete as an alternative.  With the exception of Litecoin and Doge, who are still living off money from the 2013 bubble, I doubt a new $hitcoin of BTC can really propel itself into the top 5.

It is a proposal, the next years will evaluate it and if you do not want to follow the fork simple : don't update the client. What do you mean with a new shitcoin of btc....  bitcoinXT is always *BTC but with 20 MB as blocksize (and other improvements).


*if it will reach a large consensus >51% of people or better client, or am I wrong?

[QuestionAuthority]

I have used reddit only few times so I don't know if this is correct or not :

- https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37z4py/bitcoin_core_or_xt_poll/

Nice, Thanks

You are welcome.

If the miners decide the future then Bitcoin Core would win, as most miners are only chasing profit and money in the end.

Bitcoin XT is essentially an alternate, a $hitcoin at best with some trivial improvements, and Gavin & company are going to discover how hard it is to compete as an alternative.  With the exception of Litecoin and Doge, who are still living off money from the 2013 bubble, I doubt a new $hitcoin of BTC can really propel itself into the top 5.

It is a proposal, the next years will evaluate it and if you do not want to follow the fork simple : don't update the client. What do you mean with a new shitcoin of btc....  bitcoinXT is always *BTC but with 20 MB as blocksize (and other improvements).


*if it will reach a large consensus >51% of people or better client, or am I wrong?

You're not wrong. You are missing the fact that you now have two separate groups of devs each advancing different clients at the same time. What do you suppose that's going to create?

[pawel7777]

You're not wrong. You are missing the fact that you now have two separate groups of devs each advancing different clients at the same time. What do you suppose that's going to create?

Why 'two'? Afaik there's no general consensus among all of those who oppose XT.

[bronan]

Satoshi picked Gavin to succeed him for a reason. It's not like he picked some random guy from the forum. Why should we now question Satoshi at this late date? The inventor intended for that selection to mean something.

I feel like the best thing to do is let Gavin make the changes as "HE sees fit" and then celebrate with a beer or two!

Show me proof that satoshi choose andreesen and that he really exists, if not your talking about a fairytale.
I hate this kinda claims while they are created out of thin air.
If satoshi is a real person and honest he had come forward along time ago.

Back on topic my 2 cents is that i know the size limit will need to be lifted i am not sure why many developers have problems with this solution.
The double spending risk has to be solved before massive adoption i think.

[QuestionAuthority]

You're not wrong. You are missing the fact that you now have two separate groups of devs each advancing different clients at the same time. What do you suppose that's going to create?

Why 'two'? Afaik there's no general consensus among all of those who oppose XT.

Core and XT - two.

[pawel7777]

You're not wrong. You are missing the fact that you now have two separate groups of devs each advancing different clients at the same time. What do you suppose that's going to create?

Why 'two'? Afaik there's no general consensus among all of those who oppose XT.

Core and XT - two.

But if there's no consensus in 'core' group (some want 1mb to stay, some want to increase it but not the 'XT' way etc) then you can hardly call them 'group of devs', they'll either further divide or stagnate if no consensus is reached.