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June 01, 2015, 12:12:27 AM
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Just a slightly enlarged version: http://i62.tinypic.com/6f182x.jpg

Sorry to to this do you OP, but it is pretty important to know what you're buying.

This picture provides overwelming eveidence that this coin is peeled.
I think the miffman has done an excelent forensic job here.
I would like to hear what wheresmycoin has to say about that picture?
It is not unlikely that wheresmycoin was not aware of this untill now?

It would also great if the previous owners could be tracked....example who did wheresmycoin get the coin from, and who did that person get the coin from. It seams that there is someone in the line of owners who is up to no good.... It would be good if that person could be public known.

In case the original post should be deleted (by mistake, ofcause).... this is the coin in question:
http://casascius.uberbills.com/?address=142fuYHGtMifp3ofY9pCu4nd9mFVqqKms9


looks like some deterioration from that picture from miffman, but its not visible from the naked eye.

Honeycomb-effect can be seen throughout the whole of hologram though, not obvious, only certain angles.

Doesn't seem to me like its being tampered with. If you look closely at your existing coins you might find one too.


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June 01, 2015, 01:45:10 AM
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coin quality looks decent, not suitable for fussy buyers.  Cool

but you might get a decent grading for it.

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price reduced: 2.5-3BTC

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That coin has been tampered with...I have tried taking pictures of some error coins from all angles and can not replicate that. OP if you bought the coin that way I would redeem it ASAP and just sell the peeled coin (they still fetch at least .2BTC)


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June 01, 2015, 06:40:10 AM
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That coin has been tampered with...I have tried taking pictures of some error coins from all angles and can not replicate that. OP if you bought the coin that way I would redeem it ASAP and just sell the peeled coin (they still fetch at least .2BTC)

+1. OP it does look like the hologram has been tampered with to about half the coin width which could have given access to the private key.

Either contact who you bought it from or redeem it yourself and sell or keep the blank as Blazedout said. Nobody is going to buy it just in case someone does have a copy of the private key and redeems the bitcoin themselves after the sale.

P.S. If you do decide to redeem it and wanted to sell I would be interested in buying the blank if you retained some of the hologram.


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June 01, 2015, 09:35:54 AM
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if thats the case, how does one actually do it( as in the honeycombed photo shown)? What is the actual process?

This coin has not been tampered with, based on some solid evidences that i can pull out for you, i don't want to open up a truckload of worms. Anyone concerned may PM me for evidences.  Cool

ps: will not be redeeming this coin.

i might lock this thread later on.







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June 01, 2015, 10:04:26 AM
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if thats the case, how does one actually do it( as in the honeycombed photo shown)? What is the actual process?

This coin has not been tampered with, based on some solid evidences that i can pull out for you, i don't want to open up a truckload of worms. Anyone concerned may PM me for evidences.  Cool

ps: will not be redeeming this coin.

i might lock this thread later on.








Could you perhaps post a picture with with your handwritten nickname? This would clear some things up.

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June 01, 2015, 10:11:42 AM
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if thats the case, how does one actually do it( as in the honeycombed photo shown)? What is the actual process?

This coin has not been tampered with, based on some solid evidences that i can pull out for you, i don't want to open up a truckload of worms. Anyone concerned may PM me for evidences.  Cool

ps: will not be redeeming this coin.

i might lock this thread later on.








Could you perhaps post a picture with with your handwritten nickname? This would clear some things up.

its is handwritten in paint job. It would take a while to post another picture.

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June 01, 2015, 10:21:21 AM
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if thats the case, how does one actually do it( as in the honeycombed photo shown)? What is the actual process?

This coin has not been tampered with, based on some solid evidences that i can pull out for you, i don't want to open up a truckload of worms. Anyone concerned may PM me for evidences.  Cool

ps: will not be redeeming this coin.

i might lock this thread later on.








Could you perhaps post a picture with with your handwritten nickname? This would clear some things up.

its is handwritten in paint job. It would take a while to post another picture.

Yeah man, I don't really believe you have this coin until you post a picture with your handwritten nickname.

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June 01, 2015, 11:08:13 AM
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if thats the case, how does one actually do it( as in the honeycombed photo shown)? What is the actual process?

This coin has not been tampered with, based on some solid evidences that i can pull out for you, i don't want to open up a truckload of worms. Anyone concerned may PM me for evidences.  Cool

ps: will not be redeeming this coin.

i might lock this thread later on.

You would be better posting the evidence here to clear this situation up. At the moment it looks like you're either trying to sell a coin that's been tampered with or a coin that you don't have. If you simply lock the thread it will look like you're trying to hide something.....

I'm not trying to give you a hard time it just doesn't look good at the moment.

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June 01, 2015, 11:49:35 AM
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Looks definitely peeled to me, if you hold a Casascius and look at it with a certain angle, and light it will slightly show the honeycomb pattern. But not as clear and evident as the pictures.
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June 01, 2015, 01:08:20 PM
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I'm curious what kind of value is placed on this if OP could sell it.  Does the next buyer treat the BTC value as a 50/50 gamble?  So its worth the value of a peeled coin and some speculative gamble?

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June 01, 2015, 01:30:40 PM
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if thats the case, how does one actually do it( as in the honeycombed photo shown)? What is the actual process?

This coin has not been tampered with, based on some solid evidences that i can pull out for you, i don't want to open up a truckload of worms. Anyone concerned may PM me for evidences.  Cool

ps: will not be redeeming this coin.

i might lock this thread later on.

You would be better posting the evidence here to clear this situation up. At the moment it looks like you're either trying to sell a coin that's been tampered with or a coin that you don't have. If you simply lock the thread it will look like you're trying to hide something.....

I'm not trying to give you a hard time it just doesn't look good at the moment.

already cyclops mentions the honeycomb pattern is slightly visible.

The degree of visibility differs/depends from coin to coin w holograms.

You see as we move along, things starts looking legit and in line with what i said.


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June 01, 2015, 01:31:45 PM
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Looks definitely peeled to me, if you hold a Casascius and look at it with a certain angle, and light it will slightly show the honeycomb pattern. But not as clear and evident as the pictures.

thanks, you are the first person to also point out the visibility of honeycomb for an untempered coin.


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Looks definitely peeled to me, if you hold a Casascius and look at it with a certain angle, and light it will slightly show the honeycomb pattern. But not as clear and evident as the pictures.

thanks, you are the first person to also point out the visibility of honeycomb for an untempered coin.



Maybe, but he wasn't vouching for your coin. Nevertheless, I will offer 1.1 with escrow.














 

 

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Looks definitely peeled to me, if you hold a Casascius and look at it with a certain angle, and light it will slightly show the honeycomb pattern. But not as clear and evident as the pictures.

thanks, you are the first person to also point out the visibility of honeycomb for an untempered coin.



Maybe, but he wasn't vouching for your coin. Nevertheless, I will offer 1.1 with escrow.

well ok, but what if the coin is tempered with? will you release the escrow, or will you dispute the trade?  Grin

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June 01, 2015, 02:11:18 PM
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Looks definitely peeled to me, if you hold a Casascius and look at it with a certain angle, and light it will slightly show the honeycomb pattern. But not as clear and evident as the pictures.

thanks, you are the first person to also point out the visibility of honeycomb for an untempered coin.



Maybe, but he wasn't vouching for your coin. Nevertheless, I will offer 1.1 with escrow.

well ok, but what if the coin is tempered with? will you release the escrow, or will you dispute the trade?  Grin

If it is funded, I would release the escrow.














 

 

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June 01, 2015, 02:20:51 PM
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Looks definitely peeled to me, if you hold a Casascius and look at it with a certain angle, and light it will slightly show the honeycomb pattern. But not as clear and evident as the pictures.

thanks, you are the first person to also point out the visibility of honeycomb for an untempered coin.



Maybe, but he wasn't vouching for your coin. Nevertheless, I will offer 1.1 with escrow.

well ok, but what if the coin is tempered with? will you release the escrow, or will you dispute the trade?  Grin

If it is funded, I would release the escrow.

This is clearly the case, but you know the risks. And OP should know this as well, no one will pay 1,1BTC for an unfunded one.

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June 01, 2015, 02:58:29 PM
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Why is it so difficult to take a picture with your phone of a handwritten piece of paper next to the coin?
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June 01, 2015, 02:59:27 PM
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Looks definitely peeled to me, if you hold a Casascius and look at it with a certain angle, and light it will slightly show the honeycomb pattern. But not as clear and evident as the pictures.

thanks, you are the first person to also point out the visibility of honeycomb for an untempered coin.



Maybe, but he wasn't vouching for your coin. Nevertheless, I will offer 1.1 with escrow.

I can't say if the coin has been tampered or not, but the honeycomb is visible, to a certain degree in all Casascius coins, given the correct lighting and angle. That is perfectly normal in the holograms by nearly all coin manufacturers.
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