Islamophobia has never killed anyone. Muslim hate crimes are by Muslims.

[Spendulus]

How is it not discrimination? The flight attendant didn't have any problem with the other passengers. Gave one an unopened can of beer in front of the muslim woman. Funny the article didn't say anything about that. Or about the other passenger's reactions. And how one insulted her and repeated that she would use the can as a weapon: http://rt.com/usa/263653-united-airlines-muslim-coke

I think the United Airlines PR has already apologized to Tahera Ahmad for the behavior of its staff. May be its time to put the issue behind and move on, rather than adding fuel to the fire.

Sure. This shouldn't received more attention than it deserves. I was only explaining how that was discrimination. Some people here didn't think it was. And the article in the op didn't explain what happened, just made fun of the situation. So I posted a decent article.

You are right, this was very good example of discrimination against Muslim.
In fact, what makes the situation even worse is the reaction of other passengers, who showed open hostility and hatred towards this lady.
It seems that this situation, better than all the words and declarations, shows the prevailing trend in the general population of America.
The people are so brainwashed by the media that every Muslim is seen as a potential enemy and terrorists.
What happened to America, a leader of democracy and human rights in the world?
Unfortunately, America is really changed since 2001 and became intolerant and hateful towards differences in religion, race, nationality etc.
Yes, Islamophobia has never killed anyone but kill the character and soul of people.

Wait a minute.  You mean if some Muslim wants to hide their face uner their hijab, I can't hide my coke cans under my cart?

[BADecker]

How is it not discrimination? The flight attendant didn't have any problem with the other passengers. Gave one an unopened can of beer in front of the muslim woman. Funny the article didn't say anything about that. Or about the other passenger's reactions. And how one insulted her and repeated that she would use the can as a weapon: http://rt.com/usa/263653-united-airlines-muslim-coke

I think the United Airlines PR has already apologized to Tahera Ahmad for the behavior of its staff. May be its time to put the issue behind and move on, rather than adding fuel to the fire.

Sure. This shouldn't received more attention than it deserves. I was only explaining how that was discrimination. Some people here didn't think it was. And the article in the op didn't explain what happened, just made fun of the situation. So I posted a decent article.

You are right, this was very good example of discrimination against Muslim.
In fact, what makes the situation even worse is the reaction of other passengers, who showed open hostility and hatred towards this lady.
It seems that this situation, better than all the words and declarations, shows the prevailing trend in the general population of America.
The people are so brainwashed by the media that every Muslim is seen as a potential enemy and terrorists.
What happened to America, a leader of democracy and human rights in the world?
Unfortunately, America is really changed since 2001 and became intolerant and hateful towards differences in religion, race, nationality etc.
Yes, Islamophobia has never killed anyone but kill the character and soul of people.

Wait a minute.  You mean if some Muslim wants to hide their face uner their hijab, I can't hide my coke cans under my cart?

LOL!

Unfortunately, Islam is something that becomes dangerous. Experience has taught us that.

Someone might say that freedom is more dangerous. After all, look at all the things free America is doing to the Middle East right now!

I'd say that we are lucky something like Islam isn't free. We are lucky that Islam is the place some warped and retarded people go because they think that lack of freedom is a good thing. Well, this lack of freedom has taken away their ability to think straight. How do we know? If they could think straight, they would do one of two things better. Either they would win the war rather than being destroyed as is happening, or they would really become free by leaving Islam.

[Wilikon]

How is it not discrimination? The flight attendant didn't have any problem with the other passengers. Gave one an unopened can of beer in front of the muslim woman. Funny the article didn't say anything about that. Or about the other passenger's reactions. And how one insulted her and repeated that she would use the can as a weapon: http://rt.com/usa/263653-united-airlines-muslim-coke

I think the United Airlines PR has already apologized to Tahera Ahmad for the behavior of its staff. May be its time to put the issue behind and move on, rather than adding fuel to the fire.

Sure. This shouldn't received more attention than it deserves. I was only explaining how that was discrimination. Some people here didn't think it was. And the article in the op didn't explain what happened, just made fun of the situation. So I posted a decent article.

I smell a rat...

http://imgur.com/a/l8DDk

Very well connected. Calling all the #blacklivesmatter crew for help right way... Could be another fake isla-momo-phobia crime...

Ask her what she thinks of gays being stoned to death in islamic countries then we would know what she really is...


 

[Spendulus]

How is it not discrimination? The flight attendant didn't have any problem with the other passengers. Gave one an unopened can of beer in front of the muslim woman. Funny the article didn't say anything about that. Or about the other passenger's reactions. And how one insulted her and repeated that she would use the can as a weapon: http://rt.com/usa/263653-united-airlines-muslim-coke

I think the United Airlines PR has already apologized to Tahera Ahmad for the behavior of its staff. May be its time to put the issue behind and move on, rather than adding fuel to the fire.

Sure. This shouldn't received more attention than it deserves. I was only explaining how that was discrimination. Some people here didn't think it was. And the article in the op didn't explain what happened, just made fun of the situation. So I posted a decent article.

You are right, this was very good example of discrimination against Muslim.
In fact, what makes the situation even worse is the reaction of other passengers, who showed open hostility and hatred towards this lady.
It seems that this situation, better than all the words and declarations, shows the prevailing trend in the general population of America.....

Maybe not.  Maybe that's all false misleading deception spoon fed to you.  Maybe the lady wasn't much of "a lady."

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/06/01/muslim-united-airlines-passenger-alleging-discrimination-has-ties-to-suspect-islamist-groups-radical-imams/



Ahmad has shown to have an affinity for radical Islamist groups that seek to employ deceptive tactics in order to advance Sharia law, Breitbart News has found. Ahmad has attended and participated in multiple conferences over the past couple years which were hosted by alleged Muslim Brotherhood front groups. She has also proudly written about, and has happily posed in photos with radical Imams.

In late December, Ahmad attended the MAS-ICNA (Muslim American Society- Islamic Circle of North America) conference, which featured prominent leaders within the global Muslim Brotherhood network.

One month earlier, Ahmad posted a picture to Facebook of her standing next to Suhaib Webb, who is the Imam of the Islamic Society of Boston, an outfit run under the same umbrella organization as the mosque attended by Boston Marathon bombers Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, and a plethora of other convicted terrorists. Webb has a demonstrated history of radical connections, including him being a close confidant of Al Qaeda mastermind Anwar al Awlaki prior to the 9/11 attacks.

[bryant.coleman]

Ahmad has shown to have an affinity for radical Islamist groups that seek to employ deceptive tactics in order to advance Sharia law, Breitbart News has found. Ahmad has attended and participated in multiple conferences over the past couple years which were hosted by alleged Muslim Brotherhood front groups. She has also proudly written about, and has happily posed in photos with radical Imams.

Wonderful news. Remember that she is working as the Northwestern University chaplain. I can only guess how many people will be brainwashed by her Jihadi rhetoric. The Americans will never learn from any of their past mistakes. I thought that they'll change for the better after the Boston attacks. Seems like I was being over-optimistic.

[Spendulus]

Ahmad has shown to have an affinity for radical Islamist groups that seek to employ deceptive tactics in order to advance Sharia law, Breitbart News has found. Ahmad has attended and participated in multiple conferences over the past couple years which were hosted by alleged Muslim Brotherhood front groups. She has also proudly written about, and has happily posed in photos with radical Imams.

Wonderful news. Remember that she is working as the Northwestern University chaplain. I can only guess how many people will be brainwashed by her Jihadi rhetoric. The Americans will never learn from any of their past mistakes. I thought that they'll change for the better after the Boston attacks. Seems like I was being over-optimistic.

I wouldn't exactly call it "wonderful news,", but the Left in the USA has a solid record of manufactured controversy and false victimization.  She should fit right in.  As for "Americans will never learn", we're not exactly a monolithic group.   

[Wilikon]

This lady is not telling the truth

I was actually on this flight on Friday evening from ORD to DCA. I have been a reader of this forum for a long time but seeing this all over the news made me sign up so I could tell you what really happened here and hopefully stop this liar in her tracks. I was sitting close enough to her to hear everything that was said. The flight attendant came up to the lady (I believe she even took her order first in the entire cabin as she was seated in the bulkhead 7d) and took her order. She ordered a coke zero and a hot green tea with a Splenda. The flight attendant handed her a full diet coke with a cup on top and then told her that the green tea would take a few minutes and she would get it to her ASAP. The lady said very rudely and condescending to the FA that she ordered a coke zero and basically pushed the soda back to the flight attendant. The FA said she was sorry and attempted to find a coke zero for her (which she did not have many of) and told her that she could only give her a portion of the can not the full can. This is when the lady in question started to freak out and told the FA "What do you think I will use this as a weapon?! Why can't I have the whole can? I think you are discriminating against me. I need your name...." The lady just kept yelling to her "I need your name... I am being discriminated against." This is when a few passengers told her to calm down and one guy told her to "shut her mouth and she is being ridiculous over a can of coke". No one ever said anything anti-Muslim to her at all. She was the one who started screaming discrimination when she did not get what she wanted. The FA asked her numerous times if she would like anything else when the lady just basically pushed her away with a hand in her face. The lady then got onto her phone with her credit card and paid for the internet so she could start spinning this story on social media and she was never in tears. This person is a liar plain and simple and is just pulling the discrimination card.


http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24902619-post222.html



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I smell a rat...

[Wilikon]

https://twitter.com/DanRiehl/status/605243515145220096/photo/1

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Rat burger...

[Spendulus]

....
Rat burger...

All righty, she can have her lying rat burgers.

I'll have a double bacon shredded barbecued pork burger.

And Islamophobia has never killed anyone.

[BADecker]

Nobody wants to kill any Islamites (except, maybe, other Islamites). The thing that Islamite killers are trying to do is kill Islam, and the Islamites that get killed are simply in the way. Since it is Islamites that kill other Islamites, happy Islam to all you Islamites.

[bryant.coleman]

Her rant against Taken 2 was entirely avoidable. I have seen that movie, and Albanians (some of them Muslim, some being Christian) are being depicted as the bad guys. Islam is mentioned only in a few places. There have been thousands of Hollywood movies depicting Russians and Serbs as villains, and no one has ever complained about it. Is this an attempt at attention gathering?

[kuroman]

I don't know how any sane person could believe such a thing, but Islamophobia had killed before and it is killing right now hundreds if not thousands ( Actual genocides that just happened or are happening right now : Central Africa, Southern Asia countries such as Burma Cobodia, and even in europe Bosnia.....) 

Islamophobia death are also part of our western society, many death were reported as Islamophobia, but being it media or goverment, police whatever, will always filled it under something else such as mental issues, a fight of some sort ..

To resume, this article is none sense and simply trash with no journalistic ethics aka putting up a decent argumentation with proofs, and the source is even worse just read the trash they are posting, so the whole discussion in this thread doesn't make sense at all

[BADecker]

I don't know how any sane person could believe such a thing, but Islamophobia had killed before and it is killing right now hundreds if not thousands ( Actual genocides that just happened or are happening right now : Central Africa, Southern Asia countries such as Burma Cobodia, and even in europe Bosnia.....)  

Islamophobia death are also part of our western society, many death were reported as Islamophobia, but being it media or goverment, police whatever, will always filled it under something else such as mental issues, a fight of some sort ..

To resume, this article is none sense and simply trash with no journalistic ethics aka putting up a decent argumentation with proofs, and the source is even worse just read the trash they are posting, so the whole discussion in this thread doesn't make sense at all

This is a major part of this whole article. It isn't Islamophobia when it is factions of Islam that are doing it. And it isn't Islamophobia when it is being done for other reasons than simply to exterminate Islamites.

Few if any of the places where Muslims are being killed is being done by non-Muslims who are simply out there to exterminate Muslims. Basically, the thing that looks like hate of Muslims to the point of exterminating them isn't Islamophobia. It is either greed for something else and Muslims happen to be in the way, or it is Muslims fighting Muslims.

[bryant.coleman]

I don't know how any sane person could believe such a thing, but Islamophobia had killed before and it is killing right now hundreds if not thousands ( Actual genocides that just happened or are happening right now : Central Africa, Southern Asia countries such as Burma Cobodia, and even in europe Bosnia.....) 

OK.. let me take it one by one.

Central African Republic: First, the Muslim Séléka massacred thousands of Christians, and in retaliation, the Anti-balaka fighters drove Muslims out of CAR.

Myanmar: The Muslim Rohingya raped and murdered two Buddhist women in 2012. In retaliation, there were widespread anti-Rohingya riots in the Rakhine state.

Cambodia: Muslims face no issues here right now

Bosnia: There was a civil war, in which the mostly Muslim Bosniaks were fighting the mostly Christian Serbs. Both sides committed massacres.

I don't think that any of these incidents can be taken as examples for Islamophobia.

[kuroman]

I don't know how any sane person could believe such a thing, but Islamophobia had killed before and it is killing right now hundreds if not thousands ( Actual genocides that just happened or are happening right now : Central Africa, Southern Asia countries such as Burma Cobodia, and even in europe Bosnia.....) 

OK.. let me take it one by one.

Central African Republic: First, the Muslim Séléka massacred thousands of Christians, and in retaliation, the Anti-balaka fighters drove Muslims out of CAR.

Myanmar: The Muslim Rohingya raped and murdered two Buddhist women in 2012. In retaliation, there were widespread anti-Rohingya riots in the Rakhine state.

Cambodia: Muslims face no issues here right now

Bosnia: There was a civil war, in which the mostly Muslim Bosniaks were fighting the mostly Christian Serbs. Both sides committed massacres.

I don't think that any of these incidents can be taken as examples for Islamophobia.

How funny your partial take on the events :

Central Africa, the Seleka group you are talking about was officially disbanded before the Anti Balaka muslim cleansing begin So no you are totally wrong, not only that but Muslims are the minority hence they are in the receiving end .

Myanmar : Even if we assume the excuse you are making here is true which is NOT but for sake of or argumentation let's assume so :So a Muslim commited a crime, so instead of taken him to prison, lets kill all the Muslims because that make sense right? Your logic is one again flawless.
Once again this is not the reason why the events started that was just one of many excuses that some monks advertised to get the mass to follow them and to massacre muslims.

Cambodia : I clearly said "in recent right or happening right now" the 70s and 80s are not too far off.

Bosnia : there were probably death on both fighting camps, and I'm not talking about, you obviously know and trying to avoid the fact that there was Ethnic cleansing by Serbs Orthodox towards muslims.  Srebrenica events .

When you kill thousands of people because they follow a religion when the only reason to massacre thousands of people (each of these events lead to the death of thousands of muslims ) just because they are muslim is no INCIDENT

[Spendulus]

I don't know how any sane person could believe such a thing, but Islamophobia had killed before and it is killing right now hundreds if not thousands ( Actual genocides that just happened or are happening right now : Central Africa, Southern Asia countries such as Burma Cobodia, and even in europe Bosnia.....) 

OK.. let me take it one by one.

Central African Republic: First, the Muslim Séléka massacred thousands of Christians, and in retaliation, the Anti-balaka fighters drove Muslims out of CAR.

Myanmar: The Muslim Rohingya raped and murdered two Buddhist women in 2012. In retaliation, there were widespread anti-Rohingya riots in the Rakhine state.

Cambodia: Muslims face no issues here right now

Bosnia: There was a civil war, in which the mostly Muslim Bosniaks were fighting the mostly Christian Serbs. Both sides committed massacres.

I don't think that any of these incidents can be taken as examples for Islamophobia.

How funny your partial take on the events :

Central Africa, the Seleka group you are talking about was officially disbanded before the Anti Balaka muslim cleansing begin So no you are totally wrong, not only that but Muslims are the minority hence they are in the receiving end .

Myanmar : Even if we assume the excuse you are making here is true which is NOT but for sake of or argumentation let's assume so :So a Muslim commited a crime, so instead of taken him to prison, lets kill all the Muslims because that make sense right? Your logic is one again flawless.
Once again this is not the reason why the events started that was just one of many excuses that some monks advertised to get the mass to follow them and to massacre muslims.

Cambodia : I clearly said "in recent right or happening right now" the 70s and 80s are not too far off.

Bosnia : there were probably death on both fighting camps, and I'm not talking about, you obviously know and trying to avoid the fact that there was Ethnic cleansing by Serbs Orthodox towards muslims.  Srebrenica events .

When you kill thousands of people because they follow a religion when the only reason to massacre thousands of people (each of these events lead to the death of thousands of muslims ) just because they are muslim is no INCIDENT

By all means bring evidence to refute, fully or partially, the premise of the first post.  However, please look at the dead and wounded count for last month alone at front page www.thereligionofpeace.com.

Over 3200 dead LAST MONTH ALONE???  So if you show historical evidence of events that led to deaths of thousands of muslims, what is one to think?  That Islam is outdoing such events on pretty much a weekly basis?

2015.06.07 (Quetta, Pakistan) - Five people are shot to death in Sunni raids on two tea shops belonging to the Hazara religious minority.
2015.06.07 (Maiduguri, Nigeria) - Boko Haram bombers turn an outdoor market into a mass of blood and body parts.
2015.06.06 (Balad Ruz, Iraq) - A suicide car bomber lays out fifteen patrons at a restaurant district.
2015.06.06 (Wajir, Somalia) - An Islamist opens fire on a group of people, killing three - including a woman.
2015.06.06 (Maluso, Philippines) - A man is captured and beheaded by Abu Sayyaf.
2015.06.04 (Fallujah, Iraq) - Two more gay men are thrown from a rooftop by the Islamic State.

[kuroman]

By all means bring evidence to refute, fully or partially, the premise of the first post.  However, please look at the dead and wounded count for last month alone at front page www.thereligionofpeace.com.

Over 3200 dead LAST MONTH ALONE???  So if you show historical evidence of events that led to deaths of thousands of muslims, what is one to think?  That Islam is outdoing such events on pretty much a weekly basis?

2015.06.07 (Quetta, Pakistan) - Five people are shot to death in Sunni raids on two tea shops belonging to the Hazara religious minority.
2015.06.07 (Maiduguri, Nigeria) - Boko Haram bombers turn an outdoor market into a mass of blood and body parts.
2015.06.06 (Balad Ruz, Iraq) - A suicide car bomber lays out fifteen patrons at a restaurant district.
2015.06.06 (Wajir, Somalia) - An Islamist opens fire on a group of people, killing three - including a woman.
2015.06.06 (Maluso, Philippines) - A man is captured and beheaded by Abu Sayyaf.
2015.06.04 (Fallujah, Iraq) - Two more gay men are thrown from a rooftop by the Islamic State.

Evidence? I've just gave you events (that are factual) in which Muslims were killed out of pure Islamophobia what do you want more?

So what's your point here? Muslims do kill other muslims? and I don't think I ever stated the opposite but You are claiming Homophobia has never killed anyone, and you were proven wrong, now you are derailing to something else.

Of course one does not excuse the other, but stick to the whole point of your thread, there are many thread discussing these events and how some muslims groups are murderers.

[bryant.coleman]

How funny your partial take on the events :

Central Africa, the Seleka group you are talking about was officially disbanded before the Anti Balaka muslim cleansing begin So no you are totally wrong, not only that but Muslims are the minority hence they are in the receiving end .

The Seleka were disbanded. But the remnants formed a militia named "Ex-Seleka" and tried to exterminate the Christians (despite Muslims accounting for just 10% of the population). The Christians retaliated in kind.

Myanmar : Even if we assume the excuse you are making here is true which is NOT but for sake of or argumentation let's assume so :So a Muslim commited a crime, so instead of taken him to prison, lets kill all the Muslims because that make sense right? Your logic is one again flawless.
Once again this is not the reason why the events started that was just one of many excuses that some monks advertised to get the mass to follow them and to massacre muslims.

People got tired of the endless number of rapes and murders committed by the Rohingya. And both the sides lost people during the conflict.

Cambodia : I clearly said "in recent right or happening right now" the 70s and 80s are not too far off.

The Khmer Rogue regime murdered some 2 million people. Out of that, only a small fraction were the Muslims.

Bosnia : there were probably death on both fighting camps, and I'm not talking about, you obviously know and trying to avoid the fact that there was Ethnic cleansing by Serbs Orthodox towards muslims.  Srebrenica events .

Ethnic cleansing was practiced by both the sides during the Bosnian conflict. Some 40,000 Serbs were massacred by the Muslims.

[kuroman]

The Seleka were disbanded. But the remnants formed a militia named "Ex-Seleka" and tried to exterminate the Christians (despite Muslims accounting for just 10% of the population). The Christians retaliated in kind.

So now it's not Seleka but the remaining militia, Ok except the flaw once again in your logic is that Anti-Balaka been killing Muslims for years and the killing just intensified after Seleka disbanded, and that's not even the issues, I'm not talking about Selekas vs Anti Balaka ie militia fights, I'm talking about the Anti Balaka masacring children women, and peacefull people, even the UN is warning of the massacre.

People got tired of the endless number of rapes and murders committed by the Rohingya. And both the sides lost people during the conflict.

Once again, no such thing was documented, Some of the Monks gave such excuxes to rally people without a single proof, the Islamophobia runs deep in some monks, and the felling came from Sri Linka events. According to many international instances the Muslim population is Maynmar was of peacefull and never done anything to get what they are getting

The Khmer Rogue regime murdered some 2 million people. Out of that, only a small fraction were the Muslims.

The Khmer Rouges were indeed xenophobic and killed foreigners and this is a fact, but I'm talking about the fact they killed their own Muslims just because they are muslims within their population which is definitly an Islamophobic act,  One does not stop from being the other

Ethnic cleansing was practiced by both the sides during the Bosnian conflict. Some 40,000 Serbs were massacred by the Muslims.

I think you are confusing the number around 40.000-50.000 (the highest estimates talks about 60000) were the total amount of Serbs casualties military and civilians, which mostly were Serbian Muslims, how can the whole number be at the same time the number of Serbs massacred by Muslims  For reference just the Srebrenica massacre alone account for 8000-10000  in the laps of 3 DAYS....

[Spendulus]

By all means bring evidence to refute, fully or partially, the premise of the first post.  However, please look at the dead and wounded count for last month alone at front page www.thereligionofpeace.com.

Over 3200 dead LAST MONTH ALONE???  So if you show historical evidence of events that led to deaths of thousands of muslims, what is one to think?  That Islam is outdoing such events on pretty much a weekly basis?

2015.06.07 (Quetta, Pakistan) - Five people are shot to death in Sunni raids on two tea shops belonging to the Hazara religious minority.
2015.06.07 (Maiduguri, Nigeria) - Boko Haram bombers turn an outdoor market into a mass of blood and body parts.
2015.06.06 (Balad Ruz, Iraq) - A suicide car bomber lays out fifteen patrons at a restaurant district.
2015.06.06 (Wajir, Somalia) - An Islamist opens fire on a group of people, killing three - including a woman.
2015.06.06 (Maluso, Philippines) - A man is captured and beheaded by Abu Sayyaf.
2015.06.04 (Fallujah, Iraq) - Two more gay men are thrown from a rooftop by the Islamic State.

Evidence? I've just gave you events (that are factual) in which Muslims were killed out of pure Islamophobia what do you want more?

So what's your point here? Muslims do kill other muslims? and I don't think I ever stated the opposite but You are claiming Homophobia has never killed anyone, and you were proven wrong, now you are derailing to something else.

Of course one does not excuse the other, but stick to the whole point of your thread, there are many thread discussing these events and how some muslims groups are murderers.

Evidence? I've just gave you events (that are factual) in which Muslims were killed out of pure Islamophobia what do you want more?

If that's so, then the nature and style of "Islamophobia" is far different than the way the term is used accusatorily in 2015 by Muslims, against those who dislike their ideas or visa versa.  For example, the way Zakir accuses me of "Islamophobia," although I do understand it's just because he does not find my ideas in line with his teachings and would like to intimidate others into silence.

You are claiming Homophobia has never killed anyone, and you were proven wrong, now you are derailing to something else.

Ah, I don't recall ever having such a claim.  In fact if you look at the bolded above, I have cited cases of homophobia by Islamists killing men.