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June 03, 2015, 01:21:52 PM |
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I just saw this somewhere else and some people were saying that the Cop is not to be blamed here And that she deserved it. I personally feel even though she did kick him first, as an officer of the law he should have just charged her with hitting a police officer but he decides to kick her in the head and seeing that just makes me wanna bash his head with a bat until I crack his skull open. So.. what do you guys think? And any idea where did this actually happen, any news on this, was he fired or not?
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June 03, 2015, 01:26:59 PM |
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It's really funny and yes that girl got indeed what she deserves . it was a really nice move from that cop lol not sure where this came from , probably USA or something , maybe that logo "12" or whatever helps you out
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June 03, 2015, 01:27:04 PM |
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I just saw this somewhere else and some people were saying that the Cop is not to be blamed here And that she deserved it. I personally feel even though she did kick him first, as an officer of the law he should have just charged her with hitting a police officer but he decides to kick her in the head and seeing that just makes me wanna bash his head with a bat until I crack his skull open. So.. what do you guys think? And any idea where did this actually happen, any news on this, was he fired or not? I have some difficulty defining her swipe with a bare foot sideways as anything that would constitute assault. However, even if it somehow did, kicking someone in the head would be inappropriate behavior for LEO.
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June 03, 2015, 01:32:10 PM |
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The officers response was total instinctive reflex... I bet he regretted it afterwards...
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June 03, 2015, 01:36:11 PM |
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As usual people will overreact to anything that happens to a woman but stay completely silent or even blame the guy getting hit if it's a man, in this case the guys should have just restrained her rather than kick her. I'm as wary of the police as the next guy, especially as an Anarchist, but it's one of these things when you see people act like total cunts in general and then wonder why they're being arrested I start to wonder frankly. She shouldn't have kicked him, that much is true, but equally, in revenge you don't kick somebody in the neck which is precisely what's happening in that video, that's the main concern, the problem is these cops have no fucking self-control at all and it's because they clearly haven't had the kind of training you need to handle someone so aggressive and annoying. The officers response was total instinctive reflex... I bet he regretted it afterwards... Yeah, if you look at what he did he was actually looking at the notepad at the time, so she probably went and set him off trying to kick him like that. This kind of thing pisses me off really, because people try and take sides on it claiming it's all black and white, when there are real victims of the police who get gunned down just for running away and not being threatening in the slightest. Try not to lose perspective internet please, I'm begging you -_- to put it into my perspective, there are plenty of women in the UK one would happily consider hitting, people in general can act like assholes, getting in your face a lot and it's very difficult not to just cut loose one time or another when somebody doesn't respect your personal space.
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June 03, 2015, 01:38:46 PM |
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I'm not sure. First of all, I think we should respect the police officers way more than we do now. The police officers here in the Netherlands are quite soft. I've to work with them quite often. Sometimes they let people walk away when they call them bad words, or even when they are physical attacked by drunks etc. It all depends on the situation, but I think they are way too soft (here).
However, it's obvious that the woman could not protect herself from that kick. I think both are wrong in this situation. As BG4 mentioned, I think the officer regrets what he has done (especially if he notice that this all was recorded). Should he be punished, nah. The woman should have not attacked him in the first place; the officer would not have kicked her if she didn't attacked him.
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June 03, 2015, 01:43:36 PM |
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One of the biggest problems we have here is the fact that we're making self-defence a crime, the law is so vague when it claims you should only use "Reasonable force" it needs to be far more specific than that so people stop bickering over whether the person was a woman or not and so on.
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June 03, 2015, 01:49:01 PM |
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One of the biggest problems we have here is the fact that we're making self-defence a crime, the law is so vague when it claims you should only use "Reasonable force" it needs to be far more specific than that so people stop bickering over whether the person was a woman or not and so on.
I agree with you on that point. Self-defence is a statutory defense (I hope that is the right word). Here in the Netherlands we have self-defence and something that is called "noodweer" (but I have no clue how to translate that). "Noodweer" goes a bit further than self-defense, it is the same in the sense that "noodweer" is a statutory defence that "allows" you to protect yourself, others or yours of their goods, but in a situation of "noodweer" there is no other way than the use of violence to protect this. You can't simple run away, which is the fact in most of the situations in which people appeal for self-defence as a statutory defense.
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June 03, 2015, 01:51:32 PM |
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It's really funny and yes that girl got indeed what she deserves . it was a really nice move from that cop lol not sure where this came from , probably USA or something , maybe that logo "12" or whatever helps you out It's funny? is it?? I bet you wouldn't think the same if the girl in the video was your gf or your wife or sister or mother. Anyways, I am not taking sides, she obviously shouldn't have kicked him in the first place but still it wasn't like he was really hurt from that kick, in fact she must have hurt herself from that kick because cops generally have strong legs. And she was obviously drunk. I think kicking her in the neck was uncalled for and it's sad really.
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June 03, 2015, 01:54:46 PM |
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It's not funny at all. I think we share the same opinion Twister, however, I think each kick to the shin can be painful. There's nothing like "strong legs" to protect for those kicks.
However, I don't think police officers are not "allowed" to react if they were not really hurt from a kick; even when someone misses a punch they should react in my opinion.
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June 03, 2015, 01:54:56 PM |
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Somehow she deserved "it". But just somehow. The officer is supposed to think before he acts and he could do much better. Letting her kick him then imprison her for that (or whatever the law tells abut hitting a police officer) would have been a more interesting decision, though it wouldn't have been so "interesting" for the news.
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June 03, 2015, 01:57:23 PM |
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for me it seems more or less as police reflex. I really don't think that he actually hurt her her something, but he just reflexively kick because he was kicked..
anyway, I don't see any drama...I know that it depends where are you from but usually if you are attacking police officer during his work, there are consequences..and doesn't matter if you are woman or man. simple.
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June 03, 2015, 02:02:42 PM |
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The guys here that think this is even remotely ok to kick a woman when she is on the floor with her hands tied, need to go back to their place where they grew up and learn some more from their parents how to treat females. This is disgusting he received a little bloody tap and resorted to kicking her hard in the head as stated above a women on the floor with her hands tied. No exception even if she kicked hard and knocked him on the floor gives no right to touch a female, shame on you people who make BS excuses she hit him reflex bla bla no excuse "never hit a woman" only defend yourself if necessary..
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June 03, 2015, 02:35:50 PM |
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A man beating up a woman isn't right nor was this woman right in kicking him. It seems there was an issue even before she started kicking him but he should have made a woman police officer deal with her instead of kicking her on the neck. Men are physically more fit than woman and it's not appropriate to hit a woman criminal.
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June 03, 2015, 02:37:45 PM |
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she tried to trip him over and got what she deserved, if it wasnt a woman none of you would bat an eyelid
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June 03, 2015, 03:10:29 PM |
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In my country, we kick the ass of those cops.
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June 03, 2015, 03:15:57 PM |
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In my country, we kick the ass of those cops.
Looks like you made that account just for this post. Well done. And this is not about whether hitting women is bad or not opossum. Sure it is! Assaulting police officers is bad too. And, like Lethn said, this is about self defense. If you are attacked (by either a woman or a man), you're allowed to defense yourself as long this is reasonable force. As I said before, I don't think this is reasonable force by the police officer, but the woman is wrong by attacking him in the first place. And who knows what happend before.. I can tell you, drunk woman are the worst to deal with.
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June 03, 2015, 03:24:45 PM |
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The guys here that think this is even remotely ok to kick a woman when she is on the floor with her hands tied, need to go back to their place where they grew up and learn some more from their parents how to treat females. This is disgusting he received a little bloody tap and resorted to kicking her hard in the head as stated above a women on the floor with her hands tied. No exception even if she kicked hard and knocked him on the floor gives no right to touch a female, shame on you people who make BS excuses she hit him reflex bla bla no excuse "never hit a woman" only defend yourself if necessary..
bla bla bla... *she assaulted police officer - YES *she was pacified for some reason - YES *officer did his duty (writing something) and when he was not focused on her, she attacked him? - YES and what you think that should the best behavior? let her to kick officer even more? for me is hitting woman also disgusting as obviously for you, but I can see difference between some random drunkard and police intervention. you obviously not.
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June 03, 2015, 03:32:50 PM |
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The guys here that think this is even remotely ok to kick a woman when she is on the floor with her hands tied, need to go back to their place where they grew up and learn some more from their parents how to treat females. This is disgusting he received a little bloody tap and resorted to kicking her hard in the head as stated above a women on the floor with her hands tied. No exception even if she kicked hard and knocked him on the floor gives no right to touch a female, shame on you people who make BS excuses she hit him reflex bla bla no excuse "never hit a woman" only defend yourself if necessary..
You just completely contradicted yourself with your sexist statement, you said never hit a woman and then said only defend yourself if necessary, there isn't one or the other. This kind of thinking is why more men end up in jail than women. If a cop is trying to beat the shit out of you while you're defenceless and lying on the ground, then hell yes, fight back, but this woman wasn't being beaten up, in fact it's obvious she was just being detained there, anyone can see that, well, unless you're sexist of course. As I've said already, people like you detract from real victims of police brutality and corruption, let this be a lesson for you guys as well if you ever defend yourself out there especially from a woman, the stupidity is strong in our respective western countries, so even if you handle yourself completely fine and back off when necessary you could easily end up in jail depending on the type of people are in charge of your trial and how determined the other party is to get you in there.
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June 03, 2015, 03:56:35 PM |
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In my country, we kick the ass of those cops.
Looks like you made that account just for this post. Well done. And this is not about whether hitting women is bad or not opossum. Sure it is! Assaulting police officers is bad too. And, like Lethn said, this is about self defense. If you are attacked (by either a woman or a man), you're allowed to defense yourself as long this is reasonable force. As I said before, I don't think this is reasonable force by the police officer, but the woman is wrong by attacking him in the first place. And who knows what happend before.. I can tell you, drunk woman are the worst to deal with. She has the right to be drunk.
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