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June 04, 2015, 10:34:40 PM
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I agree that jl777's ego is much too large for him to be Satoshi Nakamoto. Personally, I've always liked the theory that John Nash is Satoshi Nakamoto (mostly because I admire Nash a great deal). http://fuk.io/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto-the-truth/

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June 04, 2015, 11:05:35 PM
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Why? Look at Nxt. It is clearly the next Generation of Crypto Currency. Where does this leading position come from? Definitly someone, who is involved in Crypto-Dev for a long time. Someone for whom Bitcoin is from yesterday. Nxt is Ethereum..right now Smiley  Grin

you wise. jl777 is no more than just a low level coder and a scammer.

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June 04, 2015, 11:09:22 PM
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Is this thread even for real?
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June 04, 2015, 11:14:49 PM
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Is this thread even for real?

apparently for the time being, yes.
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June 05, 2015, 01:21:29 AM
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jl777 or not in my opinion Satoshi is still on this forum under a different name or names.
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June 05, 2015, 03:27:10 AM
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Why? Look at Nxt. It is clearly the next Generation of Crypto Currency. Where does this leading position come from? Definitly someone, who is involved in Crypto-Dev for a long time. Someone for whom Bitcoin is from yesterday. Nxt is Ethereum..right now Smiley  Grin

you wise. jl777 is no more than just a low level coder and a scammer.

at least you put your name to this statement for posterity. IMO jl777 is the complete package, the first crypto dev with real world finance experience AND communication skills, plus his work ethic is phenomenal, and his ego is in balance with his skill-set, and that's what big money investors expect. I went to university with a guy who had a reputation for having a big ego because if people asked him after an exam 'how did you do?' he'd reply, 'I'll get over 90%'. People always thought that was arrogant, but guess what, he would get over 90%. Occasionally he would say "I messed something up, I'll get 75%", and he would, but not often. This guy was smart and self aware, so he appeared arrogant, but wasn't at all. I think jl777 is like that guy, but he knows he needs to promote his projects in a crowded space, and the way he does it is detailed, honest, and always with good humor and courtesy.

Most people undersell their capacities with false modesty because that's socially ingrained into many cultures, but if I'm going to invest 10-20% of my life savings into a crypto project I'd prefer to go with the dev who knows he's good, and says so. jl777 has a large team behind him now too, so while I don't think he's satoshi, I do think his potential to deliver quality products is superior.
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June 05, 2015, 12:03:56 PM
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Why? Look at Nxt. It is clearly the next Generation of Crypto Currency. Where does this leading position come from? Definitly someone, who is involved in Crypto-Dev for a long time. Someone for whom Bitcoin is from yesterday. Nxt is Ethereum..right now Smiley  Grin

So now NXT also need their Gavin Andersen?

Who will apply for that position? I bet they have someone.
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June 05, 2015, 12:38:28 PM
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Why? Look at Nxt. It is clearly the next Generation of Crypto Currency. Where does this leading position come from? Definitly someone, who is involved in Crypto-Dev for a long time. Someone for whom Bitcoin is from yesterday. Nxt is Ethereum..right now Smiley  Grin

Nxt isn't ground breaking enough to be called "next generation of cryto". PoW is still better than PoS, if you weight in all the pros and cons.. dont get me wrong NXT is great, but not enough to dethrone BTC.


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Why? Look at Nxt. It is clearly the next Generation of Crypto Currency. Where does this leading position come from? Definitly someone, who is involved in Crypto-Dev for a long time. Someone for whom Bitcoin is from yesterday. Nxt is Ethereum..right now Smiley  Grin

you wise. jl777 is no more than just a low level coder and a scammer.

at least you put your name to this statement for posterity. IMO jl777 is the complete package, the first crypto dev with real world finance experience AND communication skills, plus his work ethic is phenomenal, and his ego is in balance with his skill-set, and that's what big money investors expect. I went to university with a guy who had a reputation for having a big ego because if people asked him after an exam 'how did you do?' he'd reply, 'I'll get over 90%'. People always thought that was arrogant, but guess what, he would get over 90%. Occasionally he would say "I messed something up, I'll get 75%", and he would, but not often. This guy was smart and self aware, so he appeared arrogant, but wasn't at all. I think jl777 is like that guy, but he knows he needs to promote his projects in a crowded space, and the way he does it is detailed, honest, and always with good humor and courtesy.

Most people undersell their capacities with false modesty because that's socially ingrained into many cultures, but if I'm going to invest 10-20% of my life savings into a crypto project I'd prefer to go with the dev who knows he's good, and says so. jl777 has a large team behind him now too, so while I don't think he's satoshi, I do think his potential to deliver quality products is superior.

that's what every bagholders are saying, their dev is the best dev ever.
heck, check out crave bagholders, everyone there think their dev is best dev ever in the world. the guy(dev) just pop out of nowhere with no trace or identity and everyone there invest 100% of their life savings.

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June 05, 2015, 03:01:26 PM
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LOL! For real: Have u ever used NRS oder SN-Client?? Smiley You fool! Tongue
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June 05, 2015, 03:11:19 PM
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Why? Look at Nxt. It is clearly the next Generation of Crypto Currency. Where does this leading position come from? Definitly someone, who is involved in Crypto-Dev for a long time. Someone for whom Bitcoin is from yesterday. Nxt is Ethereum..right now Smiley  Grin

you wise. jl777 is no more than just a low level coder and a scammer.

at least you put your name to this statement for posterity. IMO jl777 is the complete package, the first crypto dev with real world finance experience AND communication skills, plus his work ethic is phenomenal, and his ego is in balance with his skill-set, and that's what big money investors expect. I went to university with a guy who had a reputation for having a big ego because if people asked him after an exam 'how did you do?' he'd reply, 'I'll get over 90%'. People always thought that was arrogant, but guess what, he would get over 90%. Occasionally he would say "I messed something up, I'll get 75%", and he would, but not often. This guy was smart and self aware, so he appeared arrogant, but wasn't at all. I think jl777 is like that guy, but he knows he needs to promote his projects in a crowded space, and the way he does it is detailed, honest, and always with good humor and courtesy.

Most people undersell their capacities with false modesty because that's socially ingrained into many cultures, but if I'm going to invest 10-20% of my life savings into a crypto project I'd prefer to go with the dev who knows he's good, and says so. jl777 has a large team behind him now too, so while I don't think he's satoshi, I do think his potential to deliver quality products is superior.

that's what every bagholders are saying, their dev is the best dev ever.
heck, check out crave bagholders, everyone there think their dev is best dev ever in the world. the guy(dev) just pop out of nowhere with no trace or identity and everyone their invest 100% of their life savings.

There are >> 10,000 software companies...
That actually release production grade software or upgrades every day (unlike the jl777 group)...
But these Dudes are masters at floating near-worthless NXT Assets to keep the previous Assets afloat.

For example, they just floated MMNXT 2 weeks ago to keep BTCD afloat...
And it's valued at $681,000 on Crypto Cap...
But as a Pro Trader for 20 years this idea that you can make real money arbing Alts with bots is absurd.

I would like someone to give me a link to an actual Financial Statement...
Any statement from any of the 15 companies in the jl777 stable that an accountant would not die laughing at...
Even some Google Docs thingy that show a trace of revenue...
Because I've owned most of these Assets at some time and have never seen anything.

I'm not saying James is a crook... just in over his head... and eveything is late MAID, STORJ, Etherium = late....
But even MCXNow had super-detailed Financials before Ken Armitt/RealSolid swindled us all for $5,000,000.

Also, the jl777 Assets are so thinly traded that he can just set the price where ever he wants...
And if jl777 fails or is "hacked"... that is pretty much the end of NXT = he has NXT by the balls  Smiley Smiley Smiley

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June 05, 2015, 03:22:29 PM
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Satoshi wasn't about building his wealth selling promises.  Also, James isn't a core dev of Nxt, he was originally a Ripple enthusiast before he found Nxt, which was long after BCNext launched it.  Personally I like James, but the OP is stupid.
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June 05, 2015, 07:03:38 PM
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Satoshi wasn't about building his wealth selling promises.  Also, James isn't a core dev of Nxt, he was originally a Ripple enthusiast before he found Nxt, which was long after BCNext launched it.  Personally I like James, but the OP is stupid.

I don't think Satoshi would sell assets, or work on an alt coin when he could improve bitcoin. His style was to create something without trying to sell it.
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June 05, 2015, 07:39:51 PM
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Oh my god
Satoshi Nakamoto is Ronald Mc Donald!!
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June 05, 2015, 08:18:22 PM
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at least you put your name to this statement for posterity. IMO jl777 is the complete package, the first crypto dev with real world finance experience AND communication skills, plus his work ethic is phenomenal, and his ego is in balance with his skill-set, and that's what big money investors expect.

So ExtremeFacials.com, tell me, what contributions has James actually made to the the crypto world that have benefitted anybody except himself and his investors?

We're not interested in re-creating a tax-free Wall Street. We're interested in liberating the concept of money from Wall Street and all its burdensome regulations that hobble the average person from being able to afford to live a decent life.

We don't care if certain devs appeal to big-name investors or not. If they do, it could very well mean the death of the project, since the entire concept of cryptocurrency was necessitated as an escape from the evils of Wall Street and the financial sector/government complex.

We're not trying to go back there, even though the greediest of us are trying to drag the scene back into the stinking quagmire of modern-day finance, for motivations of pure greed (and out of sheer disregard for the credibility of the entire movement).

TL;DR: Fuck people who attempt to appeal to the 1%. They are ruining everything.

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June 05, 2015, 10:01:31 PM
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at least you put your name to this statement for posterity. IMO jl777 is the complete package, the first crypto dev with real world finance experience AND communication skills, plus his work ethic is phenomenal, and his ego is in balance with his skill-set, and that's what big money investors expect.

So ExtremeFacials.com, tell me, what contributions has James actually made to the the crypto world that have benefitted anybody except himself and his investors?

We're not interested in re-creating a tax-free Wall Street. We're interested in liberating the concept of money from Wall Street and all its burdensome regulations that hobble the average person from being able to afford to live a decent life.

We don't care if certain devs appeal to big-name investors or not. If they do, it could very well mean the death of the project, since the entire concept of cryptocurrency was necessitated as an escape from the evils of Wall Street and the financial sector/government complex.

We're not trying to go back there, even though the greediest of us are trying to drag the scene back into the stinking quagmire of modern-day finance, for motivations of pure greed (and out of sheer disregard for the credibility of the entire movement).

TL;DR: Fuck people who attempt to appeal to the 1%. They are ruining everything.

http://multigateway.org/
James main contribution, so far. Im sure others has help him tho in the process of releasing mgw in the current form.

Nxt official forum at: https://nxtforum.org/
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June 05, 2015, 11:58:07 PM
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at least you put your name to this statement for posterity. IMO jl777 is the complete package, the first crypto dev with real world finance experience AND communication skills, plus his work ethic is phenomenal, and his ego is in balance with his skill-set, and that's what big money investors expect.

So ExtremeFacials.com, tell me, what contributions has James actually made to the the crypto world that have benefitted anybody except himself and his investors?

We're not interested in re-creating a tax-free Wall Street. We're interested in liberating the concept of money from Wall Street and all its burdensome regulations that hobble the average person from being able to afford to live a decent life.

We don't care if certain devs appeal to big-name investors or not. If they do, it could very well mean the death of the project, since the entire concept of cryptocurrency was necessitated as an escape from the evils of Wall Street and the financial sector/government complex.

We're not trying to go back there, even though the greediest of us are trying to drag the scene back into the stinking quagmire of modern-day finance, for motivations of pure greed (and out of sheer disregard for the credibility of the entire movement).

TL;DR: Fuck people who attempt to appeal to the 1%. They are ruining everything.

http://multigateway.org/
James main contribution, so far. Im sure others has help him tho in the process of releasing mgw in the current form.

Sebastien256 beat me to it. I followed NXT from the sidelines and thought like many that jl777 was probably better at communicating ideas than delivering results, then I used the multigateway for myself and realised he had knowledge & skills. Sure, his timelines have blown out, and he's deliberating communicating about projects and ideas that wont get developed for a while so people understand his plans for the future (unless he gets more developers onside which looks highly likely) and that leaves him open to the criticism that he's more talk than results, but once I used the MGW for myself and spent time to actually try and understand what jl777's vision for the future is, I realised his approach to crypto is fundamentally different to most other crypto developers.

He's more like a Steve Jobs type of guy, but back in the early 1980's. I bet if you'd been around in the early 80s you would have been critical of Steve Jobs too, and the google guys, and Zuckerberg, and ...

edit: if you follow the SuperNET slack you'd realise jl777 shares your passion and belief for how crypto can liberate money from wall street
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June 06, 2015, 01:39:20 AM
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I think that if Satoshi ever came back, we wouldnt believe it was him. Just as we don't believe all people who say they are Jesus who came back
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June 06, 2015, 08:51:24 PM
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Er, no, he's not. Really, you can probably trust me on this........

But jl777 also isn't a shill for the 1%, he has a genuine commitment to the ideals of crypto-currency, even when those ideals could get in the way of a quick buck or an easier life. Check out his contributions to the current debate within Nxt about potential illegal listings ( a la Silk Road) on the Nxt Marketplace:
https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/how-to-filter-out-drugs-on-my-local-copy-of-the-marketplace/msg182339/#msg182339

I trust the guy, mostly. He seems genuine and competent. Of course, he could still break bad at any moment, but so could anyone......

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