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June 10, 2015, 04:42:54 AM
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Even tried selling them before @ 15BTc each! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=805850.msg9040432#msg9040432

I'd be interested at 5BTC each incl delivery to a US datacenter of my own choice.

Sorry we have an offer for 6 BTC each and that is low, so 5 BTC is a no go unfortunately.

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June 10, 2015, 04:51:10 AM
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That is your opinion, if you find it cheaper elsewhere please go ahead and buy it else where. When we bought them we got them for $4500 each, so be happy that you are getting them for around $1800 or $1600 each if they buy the lot.

Actually you paid ~10 BTC and you want 8 BTC after more than 6-7 months of usage.

Your calculation takes into account when USD rate was 475, so your argument is void. At current rate our purchase price would be 21 BTC, so 7 BTC is not a bad deal.

We would consider 6.5 BTC if you continue hosting with our hosting provider which is cheap and charges a low $75 /KW/Month.

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June 10, 2015, 06:32:04 AM
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That is your opinion, if you find it cheaper elsewhere please go ahead and buy it else where. When we bought them we got them for $4500 each, so be happy that you are getting them for around $1800 or $1600 each if they buy the lot.

Actually you paid ~10 BTC and you want 8 BTC after more than 6-7 months of usage.

Your calculation takes into account when USD rate was 475, so your argument is void. At current rate our purchase price would be 21 BTC, so 7 BTC is not a bad deal.

We would consider 6.5 BTC if you continue hosting with our hosting provider which is cheap and charges a low $75 /KW/Month.

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And your assumption of 21 BTC is for the price that you paid for a brand new miner almost 1 year ago. Like every used thing the value deprecates so the real value now isn't $4500. When SP-Tech sold out the SP31 miners the price was $2k for a brand new miner, not used like yours so if we take the brand new miner price and we adjust it to the current exchange rate it is ~9BTC so your argument is useless*. So don't try to sell a used car with the a price that is higher than a new car.


*I am aware that converting a price from a few months ago to the current exchange rate is a bit strange, but I did it to show how wrong you are.

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June 10, 2015, 12:34:40 PM
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That is your opinion, if you find it cheaper elsewhere please go ahead and buy it else where. When we bought them we got them for $4500 each, so be happy that you are getting them for around $1800 or $1600 each if they buy the lot.

Actually you paid ~10 BTC and you want 8 BTC after more than 6-7 months of usage.

Your calculation takes into account when USD rate was 475, so your argument is void. At current rate our purchase price would be 21 BTC, so 7 BTC is not a bad deal.

We would consider 6.5 BTC if you continue hosting with our hosting provider which is cheap and charges a low $75 /KW/Month.

Wissam

And your assumption of 21 BTC is for the price that you paid for a brand new miner almost 1 year ago. Like every used thing the value deprecates so the real value now isn't $4500. When SP-Tech sold out the SP31 miners the price was $2k for a brand new miner, not used like yours so if we take the brand new miner price and we adjust it to the current exchange rate it is ~9BTC so your argument is useless*. So don't try to sell a used car with the a price that is higher than a new car.


*I am aware that converting a price from a few months ago to the current exchange rate is a bit strange, but I did it to show how wrong you are.


Well you can try and buy a brand new SP miner now if you like. Oh wait they don't sell them anymore... Besides they were not bought 1 year ago it's been since November so that's 7 months.
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June 10, 2015, 01:45:13 PM
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Well you can try and buy a brand new SP miner now if you like. Oh wait they don't sell them anymore... Besides they were not bought 1 year ago it's been since November so that's 7 months.

I would also like to buy a VW Polo 9N3, but they stopped making them in 2009 and nobody is asking the full price for a second hand car and nowhere near the full price of a new car so get real and lower the price.

What I see here is that you haven't considered that the exchange rate may go down and you never prepared for this. It's your call if you want to still mine with them or to sell them and by the looks of it the miners will stay in your possession. Good luck!

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June 10, 2015, 01:57:02 PM
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Well you can try and buy a brand new SP miner now if you like. Oh wait they don't sell them anymore... Besides they were not bought 1 year ago it's been since November so that's 7 months.

I would also like to buy a VW Polo 9N3, but they stopped making them in 2009 and nobody is asking the full price for a second hand car and nowhere near the full price of a new car so get real and lower the price.

What I see here is that you haven't considered that the exchange rate may go down and you never prepared for this. It's your call if you want to still mine with them or to sell them and by the looks of it the miners will stay in your possession. Good luck!

I fail to see how 6.5 BTC is not a good price. BTC rate will be going up as soon as the economy bubble crashes because that's when people get rid of their fiat and buy Gold, and this time besides gold there is BTC. Sit tight and hold on to your miners and don't sell for dirt cheap.

Please no more arguing, this is the price and it's not coming down, either buy or ignore.

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June 10, 2015, 07:47:40 PM
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I fail to see how 6.5 BTC is not a good price. BTC rate will be going up as soon as the economy bubble crashes because that's when people get rid of their fiat and buy Gold, and this time besides gold there is BTC. Sit tight and hold on to your miners and don't sell for dirt cheap.

Please no more arguing, this is the price and it's not coming down, either buy or ignore.

Wissam

I said 8 BTC not 6.5 BTC. Please pay attention or don't put words into my mouth. Good luck with your unrealistic (8BTC) sale.

Actually you paid ~10 BTC and you want 8 BTC after more than 6-7 months of usage.

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June 10, 2015, 08:09:29 PM
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Yeah 6-8 months after use and expecting 80% price zone, is not being realistic at all.

You wouldnt want to lower the price at all?
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June 10, 2015, 11:57:47 PM
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Yeah 6-8 months after use and expecting 80% price zone, is not being realistic at all.

You wouldnt want to lower the price at all?

We said that we can do 6.5 BTC each for the lot of 29 miners if they stay with the current hosting provider. You can choose to take them to somewhere else but I don't know if you can find less hosting than $75 per KW/month, but you will have to arrange to pick them up or get them posted. So 6.5 BTC x 29 = 188.5 BTC net for all.

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June 11, 2015, 10:42:46 AM
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what you like for one ?

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June 11, 2015, 02:06:58 PM
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what you like for one ?

7 BTC for 1 but we will only sell when all 29 of them are purchased. So if you are happy with 7 BTC let me know how many you want so we can reserve them for you. Private message me so we can arrange further.
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June 11, 2015, 06:05:14 PM
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what you like for one ?

7 BTC for 1 but we will only sell when all 29 of them are purchased. So if you are happy with 7 BTC let me know how many you want so we can reserve them for you. Private message me so we can arrange further.

What exactly is the reasoning for this?  Pretty sure you're going to drive potential buyers away by doing this.
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June 11, 2015, 07:15:41 PM
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The obscene pricing people are trying to get for soon to be completely outclassed mining gear boggles my mind.

8 BTC for a used miner that's out of warranty and has poor power/gh ratio.

Good luck finding a sucker to buy a 4th/sec miner that uses 3kw.
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June 11, 2015, 07:59:40 PM
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People seem to want to buy the miners right now and they want to pay a lower price for them, so this is what we will do then.

- We will make the miners available for sale right now instead of July.
- 6.0 BTC each and no wait times, as soon as you pay the miner is yours and we will arrange with the hosting provider to arrange the contract change or to arrange pick up or postage etc.
- If you don't want to host with this hosting provider then you will need to pick up the miners yourself or arrange shipping yourself.

Let's get selling!

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June 11, 2015, 08:21:43 PM
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Are you offering escrow?  (I would be happy to assist)

Does the 6 BTC include the cost of shipping in the US?

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June 11, 2015, 08:44:21 PM
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Are you offering escrow?  (I would be happy to assist)

Does the 6 BTC include the cost of shipping in the US?

We need to receive 174 BTC in total and buyer needs to either pick them up or arrange shipping. We will link them up with the current hosting provider so they can discuss when and where they are picking up the miners from. Postage will be covered by the person buying. We are looking to sell all to 1 buyer if possible to avoid too much hassle.
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I would have bought one for 6 BTC with delivery in the USA ) escrow?
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June 12, 2015, 02:45:22 AM
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I would have bought one for 6 BTC with delivery in the USA ) escrow?

We're happy to accept the sale however we will expect payment to arrive and once payment arrives then the hosting provider will transfer ownership to you. You will talk to them to arrange the shipping and the cost involved in shipping etc.

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June 12, 2015, 02:36:01 PM
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I would have bought one for 6 BTC with delivery in the USA ) escrow?

We're happy to accept the sale however we will expect payment to arrive and once payment arrives then the hosting provider will transfer ownership to you. You will talk to them to arrange the shipping and the cost involved in shipping etc.

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Nobody will buy anything from you without escrow.  The way you are trying to do this sale is unsafe and nobody is going to directly send you BTC before receiving goods.  It just isn't going to happen.  You might as well lock this thread and stop wasting everyone's time.

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June 12, 2015, 03:14:16 PM
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Can you provide pictures of all these miners along with a piece of paper with your username written on it along with the date.

Getting that gut feeling over this one that something isnt right  Roll Eyes

Just about ready to hit the button -



I have the same feeling. I asked for escrow and/or to see miners in person. But he insists on payment upfront.

Please use escrow everyone.
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