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June 09, 2015, 01:24:01 PM |
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If you win , you will say it's a great site
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katerniko1
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June 09, 2015, 02:11:05 PM |
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sad story but that is possible to happen its really your own fault you bet that much. always bet what you can afford to lose (every bet is possible loss) so good luck in gambling future regards. -Katerniko1
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keepinquiet
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June 09, 2015, 02:32:43 PM |
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no im pretty sure youre just mad, PD has been around a long ass time and Stunna is as trustable as the definition of the word gets. If you have a problem take it up with him.
Then why is a 10 loss streak on 2x right off the bat "just unlucky"? You flip a coin in real life 100 times I bet you won't see more than 3-4, maybe 5 losses in a row. It's crazy how people think PD is trusted.....such dogmatism. I know there's three pages of replies and I'm replying to the 3rd post so this may well be covered, but yes, it's just unlucky. The chances of flipping 10 'fails' in a row is: .5 x .5 x .5 x .5 x .5 x .5 x .5 x .5 x .5 x .5 = .09765% chance it could happen. Lets be sensible and round that up to .1% chance. Thats 1 in 1000 odds. That means that when you decide to "roll until you win", let's call that a "roll cycle", roll, and if as loss, keep rolling until you win - about once every 1,000 times you do that, you WILL fail 10 in a row. I've done some hardcore betting, as well as somne hardcore analysis. I've done martingale strategy starting at 10 satoshi, doubling it up to 6.71 BTC, thats 26 failures, and have STILL lost. In simulations I've done I've seen 50/50 odds failures up to 56 times in rare cases. Its possible. Unlikely,but very possible. PD is one of the few sites that uses the mot fair and easy to verify PF system out there. Verify your rolls. They didn't cheat you. Math did.
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June 09, 2015, 02:35:16 PM |
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If you win , you will say it's a great site I agree! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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keepinquiet
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June 09, 2015, 02:36:55 PM |
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So you're telling me that it goes like
"Click, click, click"
"Yup sir, your rolls are 100% confirmed to be fair!"
Because I would believe some numbers in front of my screen. There's something behind it.
Dude - if you don't trust MATH and yet DO trust your infallable intuition instead, might I recommend you stop gambling immediately. When you are discounting mathematical fact as a scam, and an emotional "hunch" as truth, you will be broke and destitute in no short time. That I can just about guarantee.
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June 09, 2015, 02:40:28 PM |
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no im pretty sure youre just mad, PD has been around a long ass time and Stunna is as trustable as the definition of the word gets. If you have a problem take it up with him.
Then why is a 10 loss streak on 2x right off the bat "just unlucky"? You flip a coin in real life 100 times I bet you won't see more than 3-4, maybe 5 losses in a row. It's crazy how people think PD is trusted.....such dogmatism. Only in PD you're not betting 100times or something like that , you bet thousands of times. Tell me if you don't, you are mostly "unexpected " to catch a 10 loss in a row in 100 bets but you may be "unlucky" as well,ask any martingaler, as the amount won is low and you must bet a crazy amount of times just to 2x your balance.
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June 09, 2015, 03:01:46 PM |
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This is exact rehash of: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=993365.0If you believe primedice to rigged, you should use the provided tools to prove it. Or debunk the provably fair if you find any holes in it. Otherwise this whole thing is a waste of time.
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Check out gamblingsitefinder.com for a decent list/rankings of crypto casinos. Note: I have no affiliation or interest in it, and don't even agree with all the rankings ... but it's the only uncorrupted review site I'm aware of.
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Quickseller
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June 09, 2015, 03:05:10 PM |
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This is exact rehash of: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=993365.0If you believe primedice to rigged, you should use the provided tools to prove it. Or debunk the provably fair if you find any holes in it. Otherwise this whole thing is a waste of time. Lol. It was created by the same person and everything ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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June 09, 2015, 03:16:41 PM |
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This is exact rehash of: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=993365.0If you believe primedice to rigged, you should use the provided tools to prove it. Or debunk the provably fair if you find any holes in it. Otherwise this whole thing is a waste of time. Agreed with you that thread is just waste of time and cheap way to get attention from other players, when dice sites has trusted provably fair and very easy to verify the each bet result than this kind of thread does not make sense.
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hunkey600
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June 09, 2015, 03:50:25 PM |
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Its better don't gamble they are born to take your money, they have fishy system so you will lose in any case.
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nikona
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June 09, 2015, 03:53:38 PM |
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I think all gambling is meant to be a scam or there wouldn't be casinos. Gambling organizations make money based on people losing. Well, with the exception of tournaments like poker and such. But even then, someone is losing.
The best option in gambling is to know what you are comfortable losing and then do your best to not lose it. But the odds are always in favor of the house. You can't beat it.
A scam is different from a gambling operation. A Scam is when you take money of the user without giving them any details or without their consent where they are in no position to get it back. A Gambling operation makes it clear that the casinos have the edge, and will honour all bets, and you are free to make bets. Thats definitely bad luck there, but if it verifies it doesn't make it a scam.
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June 09, 2015, 03:58:17 PM |
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Candy you've been saying that every dice site is a scam when you lose lol.
LOL. Dadice was a scam from day 1. Don't even talk xD
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GrandmaJean
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June 09, 2015, 04:10:53 PM |
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Candy you've been saying that every dice site is a scam when you lose lol.
LOL. Dadice was a scam from day 1. Don't even talk xD wait so acording to you all dice sites that you loose on are scams yes? off topic: do you get paid for wearing bit-x sig with negative trust?
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anshar (OP)
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June 09, 2015, 04:12:21 PM |
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Candy you've been saying that every dice site is a scam when you lose lol.
LOL. Dadice was a scam from day 1. Don't even talk xD wait so acording to you all dice sites that you loose on are scams yes? off topic: do you get paid for wearing bit-x sig with negative trust? Naw, they only three that I know are scams are Primedice, 999Dice, and DaDice. Keep in mind I've played on almost every dice site.
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June 09, 2015, 04:17:10 PM |
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Keep in mind I've played on almost every dice site.
No you havent play in betterbets ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . Even if you have play in most sites, your judgement is based on your luck, if you lose then it is a scam but if you win then the site is legit ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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anshar (OP)
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June 09, 2015, 04:18:46 PM |
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Keep in mind I've played on almost every dice site.
No you havent play in betterbets ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . Even if you have play in most sites, your judgement is based on your luck, if you lose then it is a scam but if you win then the site is legit ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Yeah I've played betterbets.io. I got 0.0001 in there and took it up to 0.05 the very first time I played...
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Kanine Awe
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June 09, 2015, 04:19:26 PM |
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Every time you bet theres a chance to lose. You can't bet with high odds and then be upset you lost. There's a chance you will lose the money and you have to take that into account if you plan on betting.
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June 09, 2015, 04:22:12 PM |
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There will be a house edge on every dice site. Here's my yesterday bet using martiangle ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.msg11565482#msg11565482) The chance for getting those streak about 0.01% ...Really bad luck ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) You can try other gambling site without house edge , example : directbet, etc
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June 09, 2015, 04:23:51 PM |
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Dont get me wrong guys or dont think I have lost too much that is saying .. I whenever bet and place small amount like 0.0001 btc i always win at 95% but when i play at 95% with amount like 0.2-0.5 btc , i loose more than 50% times, I know you will say fair and I really dont have any problems with it . I stopped gambling there rather than opening threads and get laughed by stupids ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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June 09, 2015, 05:26:02 PM |
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http://gyazo.com/712f6cc153a402e0797425ed11c63a18That's nothing compared to what I've been hitting. And you're trying to tell me PD isn't rigging rolls? What a joke. Don't come up to me with all that "provable fair" shit. Fuck that garbage, we all know PD is rigging. I'm not mad xD just warning y'all. I've lost alot on PD. I play on other sites usually now and I actually win. But I play on PD often just to prove its a scam. So someone lost one high-odd roll, and this is proof that PD is rigging rolls? Provably fair in an implementation like PD's is 100% verifiable. There is literally no way to rig it, and stating that it is rigged shows that you either have a severe misunderstanding of mathematics/the mathematics behind provably fair or are just trying to stir something up.
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