The combined sidehack-novak usb stick review thread. AKA GekkoScience BM1384

[philipma1957]

here is current  power draw at freq 175





here is cgminer 4.9.0 running at freq 175




here is pool side at btcguild

[cavaliersrus]

very nice from a small unit keep up the good work sidehack and novak aswell as the reviewer

[aarons6]

you should slowly dial back the power until it doesnt start up and see how low it will go.

[philipma1957]

you should slowly dial back the power until it doesnt start up and see how low it will go.

one thing at a time.

when the pot was in this  position   +

it was hard to start at freq 150

in the current position  see photo  maybe a ⅛ turn  it starts pretty easy at freq 175

pot is tiny and delicate not looking to turn it much.

[philipma1957]

you should slowly dial back the power until it doesnt start up and see how low it will go.

this little turn i did makes startup easy for freq 150   9 of 10 starts were good wit more juice.

and good for freq 175  8 of 10 starts were good with more juice.

with new  power setting I got this to work on the pc I wanted it to work on.

This pc has a charging port  that will provide 1.5 amps  I am also not using a hub.  Once i have it fully setup i think I will use  5 or less watts with stick and fan.

I fucked my other pc up I got a bad down load of zadig and have been getting rid of a shit load of virus issues.

But I was able to get this stick to work this time.  I am pretty show the extra boost helped detection.

[aarons6]

you should slowly dial back the power until it doesnt start up and see how low it will go.

one thing at a time.

when the pot was in this  position   +

it was hard to start at freq 150

in the current position  see photo  maybe a ⅛ turn  it starts pretty easy at freq 175

pot is tiny and delicate not looking to turn it much.

so it probably wont go much lower then.. thats still awesome.. i cant wait till i can get a couple.

[sidehack]

Starts hammer on the power with the U3 driver, which affects the start voltage. The code used in the S5 ramps things up a lot more slowly, so once we have something like that in place it should start on a given frequency at a lower voltage. Right now if it starts only half the time on 610mV, it might run clean (after start) with running voltage shifted down to 590mV or so.

[alh]

It isn't expected that the Pot would be something that would be adjusted while running is it? I would assume that it's more or less "static" given a given frequency, yes?

[philipma1957]

It isn't expected that the Pot would be something that would be adjusted while running is it? I would assume that it's more or less "static" given a given frequency, yes?

I do think you can that.  thus saving a bit more power.

I will do some testing and photos on Sun. Hoping to to exactly that.


I spent a lot of today cleaning and deleting my second windows 7 pc in which I loaded a malware filled zadig.  Waste 4 to 6 hours but I think it is fixed.

[vapourminer]

might of been easier to just reload win7 from scratch.

if you image a fresh install (macrium reflect free is good for this) it only only takes a few minutes to get back to a known good state. for miner only pcs its nice, I did exactly that a few times.

keep the image on a second partition on the same drive the OS is on, that way you dont need to worry about network or usb drivers or stuff like that, boot to reflect and go.

[pepto]

Where did get the infected Zadig?
I use the one in ck's cgminer git and I have no problems. At least that I know of.

[philipma1957]

might of been easier to just reload win7 from scratch.

if you image a fresh install (macrium reflect free is good for this) it only only takes a few minutes to get back to a known good state. for miner only pcs its nice, I did exactly that a few times.

keep the image on a second partition on the same drive the OS is on, that way you dont need to worry about network or usb drivers or stuff like that, boot to reflect and go.

I had a small amount in a bitcore wallet and wanted to rescue it. My stupidity was loading a bad version of zadig on this particular pc.

 All is well now and I made 3 usb2 drive thumbnails  with cgminer 4.9 and a good zadig.

I used to sell a lot of sticks on ebay and I would provide the buyers with this  preprogrammed:

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Cruzer-Low-Profile-Drive--SDCZ33-016G-B35/dp/B005FYNSZA/ref=sr_1_5_m?


plug it into your pc  click on cgminer  and zadig and off you go.

[philipma1957]

Where did get the infected Zadig?
I use the one in ck's cgminer git and I have no problems. At least that I know of.

my bad I had forgotten it was there and googled a link to zadig.

[philipma1957]

I don't have time to do photos of second setup on my node/usb stick dedicated pc

25 watts to run node
8.8 watts to add stud usb hub fan and a stick
the stick uses 3 watts to give 9.7gh

I will photo this afternoon.



As for overnight number high 9's poolside

full size link

http://imageshack.com/a/img537/7043/jHQJrw.png

[philipma1957]

here is a slew of photos on the second pc/node/usb stick/ usb stud hub.

full size links

http://imageshack.com/a/img538/3368/sdY5cR.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img909/2530/2dHJvI.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img537/1618/OcnbXB.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img537/6246/Rc4nbj.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img661/7386/QaSiN3.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img909/8091/K4Glqz.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img633/3659/9oHXzU.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img673/4786/X9JVRF.jpg

stud hub/fan/usb stick power used = 8.8 watts



stud hub/fan/ no stick power used = 5.7 watts



total power for node + stud hub +  fan + usb stick



cg miner 4.9.0 on  btcguild



node  running




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/538/sdY5cR.jpg

system is asrock h77m
 intel i5 2500t
samsung ssd 256 gb  a 810 SATA II ssd
antec 650 earth watts plat psu
2x 4gb sticks of kingston ram
viewsonic screen hd 1080p----------------------------I do not count the power for this as I turn it off 95% of the day

[philipma1957]

So 3.1 watts for 1 stick at 9.5gh to 9.9gh      freq 175


At worst case power is 3.1/9.5 = 0.3263 watts a gh!!




@ sidehack and novak   nice very nice work

[TheRealSteve]

At worst case power is 3.1/9.5 = 0.3263 watts a gh!!

@ sidehack and novak   nice very nice work

That is very nice
I noticed you're using a kill-a-watt type meter for power consumption and math'ing things from there - have you considered using one of those el cheapo USB meters?  Those should give you a reasonably accurate measure of supply voltage, current drawn, and overall power consumption over time at the stick level, with a minimum level of fuss.

[valkir]

0.3 watt this is getting really nice! Can wait to receive mine. 

[philipma1957]

At worst case power is 3.1/9.5 = 0.3263 watts a gh!!

@ sidehack and novak   nice very nice work

That is very nice
I noticed you're using a kill-a-watt type meter for power consumption and math'ing things from there - have you considered using one of those el cheapo USB meters?  Those should give you a reasonably accurate measure of supply voltage, current drawn, and overall power consumption over time at the stick level, with a minimum level of fuss.

 give me a link for one and I will order it.

[Duce]

At worst case power is 3.1/9.5 = 0.3263 watts a gh!!

@ sidehack and novak   nice very nice work

That is very nice
I noticed you're using a kill-a-watt type meter for power consumption and math'ing things from there - have you considered using one of those el cheapo USB meters?  Those should give you a reasonably accurate measure of supply voltage, current drawn, and overall power consumption over time at the stick level, with a minimum level of fuss.

 give me a link for one and I will order it.

I bought one like this http://www.amazon.com/BESTOPE®-Charger-Doctor-Current-Voltage/dp/B00GC9I61I/ref=pd_sim_60_6?ie=UTF8&refRID=06NT3Z3HJDSP20M7JWE7 a few years back for USB Ants and Gridseeds that still works. Looking Amazon and it seems they have a bigger selection now. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=USB+power+meter

Very good work by the way, thanks for keeping us informed.