StartCoin to become largest altcoin within 24 months (Karl Gray - Mega whale)

[funkenstein]

lets save the world from the evil bankers says a group of multi millionaire pro scamers 

Right, what exactly is the scamming accusation about?

I think we were talking about startcoin. 

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[Ducky1]

lets save the world from the evil bankers says a group of multi millionaire pro scamers 

Right, what exactly is the scamming accusation about?

I think we were talking about startcoin. 

So, whats scam about it?

[funkenstein]

lets save the world from the evil bankers says a group of multi millionaire pro scamers 

Right, what exactly is the scamming accusation about?

I think we were talking about startcoin. 

So, whats scam about it?

For starters (no pun intended)  we have things like:  "You must first login or signup to support a project".   WTF?  I wonder if they screen addresses out of peoles project descriptions to ensure their cut? 

At best this is middlemanism (which doesn't necessarily imply scam btw), and hiring expensive lawyers and accountants (as seen on startjoin www) with monies you divert from people trying to fund small projects is at best a mistake.   

"London is the heart of world kleptocracy, that's why I moved here.  Buy startcoin".  Something like that. 

   

 


 

[Ducky1]

lets save the world from the evil bankers says a group of multi millionaire pro scamers  

Right, what exactly is the scamming accusation about?

I think we were talking about startcoin.  

So, whats scam about it?

For starters (no pun intended)  we have things like:  "You must first login or signup to support a project".   WTF?  I wonder if they screen addresses out of peoles project descriptions to ensure their cut?  


At best this is middlemanism (which doesn't necessarily imply scam btw), and hiring expensive lawyers and accountants (as seen on startjoin www) with monies you divert from people trying to fund small projects is at best a mistake.  

"London is the heart of world kleptocracy, that's why I moved here.  Buy startcoin".  Something like that.  
  

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Do you find any crowdfunding platforms where you don't need an account? If you use facebook it takes the push of a button.


BTw, we are supporting anonymity https://www.startjoin.com/StartOR_Project

[funkenstein]

Do you find any crowdfunding platforms where you don't need an account? If you use facebook it takes the push of a button.


BTw, we are supporting anonymity https://www.startjoin.com/StartOR_Project

Lighthouse is one example.    

Why make users push extra buttons when you could just display an address and collect the cash?  You can still take a cut, so I don't get it.  The only reason I can think to do this would be to collect a database of donor's emails for use in spamming, but I still fail to see how this could be worth as much as the business you lose by making potential donors jump through hoops, not to mention the extra server side costs.  And anyway, most will give you fake / throwaway ones.  



  

 

[Ducky1]

Do you find any crowdfunding platforms where you don't need an account? If you use facebook it takes the push of a button.


BTw, we are supporting anonymity https://www.startjoin.com/StartOR_Project

Lighthouse is one example.    

Why make users push extra buttons when you could just display an address and collect the cash?  You can still take a cut, so I don't get it.  The only reason I can think to do this would be to collect a database of donor's emails for use in spamming, but I still fail to see how this could be worth as much as the business you lose by making potential donors jump through hoops, not to mention the extra server side costs.  And anyway, most will give you fake / throwaway ones.  

The social part, with things like karma score for rewards, and the messages between users, which is rather important as there is a lot of communication going on would not work. If a project does not get fully funded the funds are given back, that would not work either. So, no it would not work. That said, there could theoretically be a way to give to projects without having to log in. Then it would have to be bitcoin or startcoin, and you would not get your funds back even if the project did not reach its target.

[Ducky1]

Twitter is as I said the most important channel: 



https://twitter.com/paradimeshift

[Spoetnik]

what is different than say Ripple ? 50% pre-mine vs 100% ?
it's still the same old routine.. nothing changes.

I'd love to sit on 40 million coins and make bold predictions hoping you all make my coins worth a $ buck each LOL
You just can't dance around the core key facts.
Look around no one cares about Altcoins.. they care about Bitcoin itself (the market values speak loud & clear on that)
Why one more ?
So I can be the Satoshi sitting on the massive mother load hoping it goes to a grand a coin that is why.
Grand plans.. good luck with that.

And don't get me wrong here I may be negative but so what, no one cares what I think..
I spoke up loudly before Doge coin took off for example and you all called me a Troll and bought Doge coins regardless LOL
The people will do what they want to do.. problem is the kids that showed up got smarter or ran out of money.
You can only rip off little kids for their money so many times before they are broke.

How many existing currencies existed before StartCoin ?
We needed another one ? really ?

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what is different than say Ripple ? 50% pre-mine vs 100% ?
it's still the same old routine.. nothing changes.

I'd love to sit on 40 million coins and make bold predictions hoping you all make my coins worth a $ buck each LOL
You just can't dance around the core key facts.
Look around no one cares about Altcoins.. they care about Bitcoin itself (the market values speak loud & clear on that)
Why one more ?
So I can be the Satoshi sitting on the massive mother load hoping it goes to a grand a coin that is why.
Grand plans.. good luck with that.

And don't get me wrong here I may be negative but so what, no one cares what I think..
I spoke up loudly before Doge coin took off for example and you all called me a Troll and bought Doge coins regardless LOL
The people will do what they want to do.. problem is the kids that showed up got smarter or ran out of money.
You can only rip off little kids for their money so many times before they are broke.

How many existing currencies existed before StartCoin ?
We needed another one ? really ?

So don't buy any StartCOIN. What is the reason for the ignorant hater rampage?

You obviously have not even bothered to look at the StartJOIN business model. Had you, everyone of your rants would have been answered.

So yes, we needed one more - StartCOIN. And it will be second to none.

[Ducky1]

Limbaugh is right, you have to study the business model to understand why it's not just another altcoin. I think this recent tweet sums it up quite well.



 

[dogecoinshop]

Hello Ducky, Thanks for the backing.

[Ducky1]

Hello Ducky, Thanks for the backing.

My pleasure, you are doing a great job!

[Spoetnik]

funny I bumped a topic on jackpot coin and I got the topic moved to the trash for advertising (couple months back) and yet you can post this ?
yeah I got pissed off the usual double standard around here..  

[Ducky1]

funny I bumped a topic on jackpot coin and I got the topic moved to the trash for advertising (couple months back) and yet you can post this ?
yeah I got pissed off the usual double standard around here..  

You have no idea.. dogecoinshop was thanking me for the contributions I did to his projects on startjoin. Besides, this topic is important, it's not every day one of the richest bitcoin holders on earth tells the audience that a new coin is about to arise to fame. I'm not advertising, just giving a hint (believe it or not). It probably does not matter to startcoins future success what readers of this forum thinks anyway.

[othe]

Limbaugh is right, you have to study the business model to understand why it's not just another altcoin. I think this recent tweet sums it up quite well.



 

The business models of Kim Schmitz aka Kimble aka Kim Tim Jim Vestor aka Kim Dotcom are quiet easy to understand, he and his business partners betray all others for personal profit.

His history in brief:

1) He was arrested for trafficking stolen phone calling cards, released, arrested again... 11 counts of computer fraud and 10 for data espionage.
2) He worked together with Günther Freiherr von Gravereuth to snitch out Kim´s own friends who were running BBS´ just for the sake of making cash and selling the data to the cops, he even posed to be a girl in various amiga/c64 newspaper who is searching for people to send her warez (on floppys...back then)... of course all he wanted was the address data so he could sell them to Günther and his cop friends.
His fake name back then was "Tanja" a german girls name he had a large success with to snitch out tons of nerds who did nothing than helping "her".
3) He stole a hack from mr ma****** and became telekom employeer in germany, or well he founded his own company called DataProtect who got paid by Telekom..., they paid him not to publish it, a hack he didn´t even do himself, he managed to steal a hack, thats just ridiculous.
It was a bug/exploit in the GSM system of Deutsche Telekom Mobil D-1 (germanies largest phone provider) - just for info; he stole that hack from someone else and made cash with it.
4) He claimed he hacked the Citibank and wired Greenpeace 20 MIO USD; Greenpeach knows absolutely nothing about this.
5) He bought stocks from Letsbuyit.com, pumped and dumped them....stock market fraud + insider trading.
6) He fled to Thailand, tried to kill himself (or at least he said so online...) ...got arrested again for the stock market fraud in germany.
7) He moved to honkgong, registered a bullshit company called Kimpire Limited, he made shit like Hackers against Jihad after 11. September, yes he even wanted to profit from one of the worst terrorist attacks ever.
Hongkong made a case against him because stock market fraud, kim fatcom left HK and has gone to New Zealand.
9) NZ is so fucking stupid and lets him in, without checking why he had to flew from HK, once again totally bankrupt of course.
10) He founded Megaupload bullshit...and the rest is known....
11) Shit blows up, FBI wants to fuck him, everyone who knows Kim from the past wishes the FBI succeeds.
12) He found new scam idiots, this time Karl Grey and Max Keiser, all already known for the pump and dump. Keiser even having a tv show in mother russia...

[Ducky1]

Kim Dotcom is not mothers best boy, but he is very smart and an internet hero for a lot of people. Many of the things he is doing are the right things(TM). StartCOIN is for starting a revolution, not for keeping status quo.

He got the honor of being the first with his very own Startcoin scratch cards https://www.startjoin.com/scratch4kim

Keiser's TV show air's all over the world - http://rt.com/shows/keiser-report/ - and was telling people to buy Bitcoin when it was $3 (although I have not checked that myself)

[othe]

No one who ratted out his own friends can be considered a "hero".
Only total internet retards who don´t know him would even consider this and this can only happen here on bitcointalk.

keiser and gray pumped and dumped the shit out of Litecoin, dumping their coins when it hit enough on tons of innocent fools.
Maxcoin was a scam from day one and since has been gone were it belongs.


Keisers show airs all over the world? How much crack did you smoke, it runs on russia today which alone says enough.

[Ducky1]

Keisers show airs all over the world? How much crack did you smoke, it runs on russia today which alone says enough.

I only chew Nicorette  

Russia Today is a bit like BBC and has stations in many parts of the world.

Code:

 Channel	Description	Language	Launched
RT News	The flagship news channel of the RT network, it covers international and regional news from a Russian perspective. It also includes commentary and documentary programs. Based in Moscow with a presence in Washington, New York, London, Paris, Delhi, Cairo, Baghdad, Kiev and other cities.[4]	English	2005
Rusiya Al-Yaum	Based in Moscow and broadcast 24/7. Programmes include news, feature programming and documentaries.	Arabic	2007
RT Actualidad	Based in Moscow with bureaus in Miami, Los Angeles, Havana and Buenos Aires. Covers headline news, politics, sports and broadcast specials.[109]	Spanish	2009
RT America	RT America is based in RT's Washington, D.C. bureau, it includes programs hosted by American journalists. The channel maintains a separate schedule of programs each weekday from 4:00 p.m. to 12:00 a.m. Eastern Time, and simulcasts RT International at all other times.	English	2010
RT UK	RT UK is based in RT's London bureau at Millbank Tower. Includes programs hosted by British journalists. The channel offers five hours of programming per day, Monday to Thursday UK News at 6pm, 7pm, 8pm, 9pm and 10pm and simulcasts RT International at all other times. On Fridays there is No 10pm UK News bulletin.	English	2014
RT Deutsch	A brand-new German part of RT network based in RT's Berlin bureau. Covers local German as well as world news topics.[110]	German	2014
RT Français	A new French part of RT network based in RT's Paris bureau. Covers local French as well as world news topics.[111]	French	2014
RT Documentary	A 24-hour documentary channel. The bulk of its programming consists of RT-produced documentaries related to Russia.[112]	English, Russian	2011
Ruptly	A video news agency ran by RT based in Berlin, Germany and Washington, D.C.	English	2013

[Macno]

I don`t follow everything Russia Today broadcasts, but the shows they have on the economy are really good. They are a bit like the zerohedge.com of Youtube, with people like Mish Shedlock, Karl Denninger, Jim Rickards, Reggie Middleton and others showing up, who you rarely see on MSNBC or Bloomberg.

[Ducky1]

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