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June 12, 2015, 09:02:36 PM
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I mention that working alone in pool will safe your hash as no competitors with you , you will mine alone until you discover the block .

I wouldn't mine with anybody who thinks mining in a pool means you're competing with others.  You're NEVER doing the same work as the other miners on the same pool.

You are *always* competing with THE ENTIRE NETWORK, no matter if you're solo mining, pool mining, or solo pool mining.
I'm doing a bit of reading between the lines here, but I *think* he's trying to state that if you choose to mine with him, you'll get your very own instance of ckpool.  On that particular pool instance you won't have any miners besides your own.  I could be wrong, though since as I said I'm reading between the lines Smiley

Nah what he is trying to state is that you will mine on his "private" pool, and when YOU hit a block with your hash power he will run with the 25 BTC.

Nice way to scam someone out of 5k... I applaud your effort OP, but nice try.

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They are not even read my post , Creating Pools with user address and server login . So user have ability to change, monitor, manage  and operate his pool .

Untill now I have 2 pools already running in 2 different servers .

 Developers , programmers , Serious users will have Access right now to my servers .  Its not to prove (Because I don't care for Insects) Its just to start working .

please don't call me an insect, I am a beautiful ladybug

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June 12, 2015, 09:14:33 PM
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Maya the bee Wink
Another  remarkable comment
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Main benefit is you will never lose your heart ashing power like solo mining (only 1 hashing power win , others gone)
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Says the OP of the ckpool Grin

Pathetic  Grin
Says the male nasty bug....

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June 12, 2015, 09:57:04 PM
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It's because you're not articulating what you're offering.  The only information you've given is that you've managed to kind of install a somewhat working version of ckpool for solo mining.  You're hoping to attract developers, programmers and "serious users".  If any of those types of users wanted to, they would simply install ckpool on their own and not bother trusting that you may or may not have done things right on your side.  I mean, really, what is it you're offering here?  I trust -ck and his solo pool.  He wrote the mining code and the pool code.  I hope you're successful, but you had better clearly and concisely communicate what you're offering.  Right now it's pretty vague.

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You are Right , My post not clear enough because I'm not offering service . Im just publish a new way to mine , I dont like the existing Mining methods

Share payments OR solo

3 - 10 $ daily  OR  gambling  in  Hugo casino pool  .

Non profitable mining OR Lottery ticket

I think  Rigs's owners or rentals users must have another choice , That to have your own pool

You will mine untill you discover a block . That's it

Main benefit is you will never lose your hashing power like solo mining (only 1 hashing power win , others gone)
There is no lost hashing power on a solo pool.
There are only found blocks.
Your opening post makes no sense at all.
What a pool should be stating clearly, by means of known terms, is how the payout is distributed when a block is found.
Your post doesn't succeed in doing that at all.

A normal (non-solo) pool equates hashing power of each of the miners, for some amount of history, to a payout calculation.

A solo pool does not, hashing power is not relevant to the payout.
On solo it is simply 100% of the block reward (or less if there is a fee) to the miner that finds the block.

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June 12, 2015, 10:06:21 PM
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I just finished deploying a great CKPOOL as a private pool .

If anyone interesting to mine to my pool he will be welcome .

The main benefit of private pool is user will mine alone until block discovered so no competitors there , Only one user , and we will share the full reward of 25 BTC .


  • I will provide user access to pool server after agreement.


  • My plan is to create one private pool for every user.

  • Pool still in develop mode , it may not be stable yet but working very good.


Programmers are welcome too .

Finally thanks to -CK , Many pools are using his pool's code .

Pm if you have any idea or you can link power.



Why would anybody do this and not just mine at CK's solo pool themselves??



You mean you didn't understand anything .

I mention that working alone in pool will safe your hash as no competitors with you , you will mine alone until you discover the block .

or you can gambling with 100 users and waste your hash power.

I will Accept users in private pool with minimum 50 TH .

User will mine until to hit the block or Orphan block recorded .

Correct ... I don't understand anything about your plans
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June 12, 2015, 10:15:22 PM
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In all honest OP I think it will be very hard for a new solo mining pool to compete with solo.ckpool.org. Its run by very trusted people and has already found 65 blocks. In fact I've got some rental rigs pointed there as we speak.

I can see that you are nothing . maybe you are insect or something like that .

OMG        Its a sink of insects

But I do find your insect sayings very amusing Grin. I'm sorry to laugh, its obviously been lost in translation.

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June 12, 2015, 10:28:15 PM
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OK

What about Fact that hashing power will solve a block in period time frame ?  100 TH will generate a block in 20 days and 10 Th will generate block in 90 days Huh

My point is to give my miners a enough time frame to solve a block without resting bestshares .

and what about Pool 's Luck ??

EX : http://www.kano.is/index.php?k=pblocks

So If I mine in 5 Pools I will have more chance to got good Luck

Maybe I'm Right or Wrong
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June 12, 2015, 10:46:36 PM
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June 12, 2015, 10:48:43 PM
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This almost read like - Single female looking for love lol

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June 12, 2015, 10:49:16 PM
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Ha ha very good Cheesy.

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June 12, 2015, 10:52:43 PM
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Cute drawing...

I'm still confused by your statements.  What does the timeframe for finding a block with 100TH/s or 10TH/s have to do with anything?  What is this new mining method you've discovered?  You just want to not have your best share reset?  Who freaking cares about best share?  Unless that best share is above the current network difficulty it means nothing.  What does a pool's luck have to do with anything if you're solo mining?  If you mine in 5 pools you're spreading your variance around and not victimized by a single pool's luck... but that has nothing to do with solo mining at all.

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June 12, 2015, 10:52:55 PM
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OK

What about Fact that hashing power will solve a block in period time frame ?  100 TH will generate a block in 20 days and 10 Th will generate block in 90 days Huh
Your hashing power doesn't decide when you will find a block.
It only decides the expected average time to find a block ... average over maybe a few thousand blocks.

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My point is to give my miners a enough time frame to solve a block without resting bestshares .
Best share is a random statistic - it has no actual meaning to when you will find a block.
It simply shows how close you were to finding a block.

Imagine someone says to you, if you give me $1 and you roll 9 sixes in a row I'll give you a million dollars.
You manage to astound everyone and roll 8 sixes in a row, but fail on the 9th roll.
Close - but - you get nothing Tongue
(and by the way, he has a good ~10x "house edge" if everyone gives him $1 to try Tongue)

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and what about Pool 's Luck ??

EX : http://www.kano.is/index.php?k=pblocks
Yeah pretty cool hey Cheesy

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So If I mine in 5 Pools I will have more chance to got good Luck

Maybe I'm Right or Wrong
You can't affect luck.
You can reduce variance.

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June 12, 2015, 11:21:42 PM
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You Are Right Kano by 90 %
But please answer the last question .

why when block discovered elsewhere all miners's bestshares still working and only pool's minesrs has been rest ?  (sorry for my language )

solving Block anywhere not effect my work expect my pool 's group !!

I think I will run my miners alone in solo tunnel until I solve the block without Disturbance

This is my point


If my point is wrong I will sell my rigs and I 'll let insects live with me in my home .

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June 12, 2015, 11:26:28 PM
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June 12, 2015, 11:41:26 PM
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You Are Right Kano by 90 %
But please answer the last question .

why when block discovered elsewhere all miners's bestshares still working and only pool's minesrs has been rest ?  (sorry for my language )

solving Block anywhere not effect my work expect my pool 's group !!

I think I will run my miners alone in solo tunnel until I solve the block without Disturbance

This is my point


If my point is wrong I will sell my rigs and I 'll let insects live with me in my home .

As I already said:

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Best share is a random statistic - it has no actual meaning to when you will find a block.
It simply shows how close you were to finding a block.

Block finding is not a gradual process.
You either find it on each hash you do or you don't.
Each previous hash you do has no effect on the next hash you do.
A 1THs miner does 10^12 hashes per second, but the chance of each one finding a block is unaffected by the previous ones.
Each one has the same chance.

If I find a 3 billion diff share, it is worthless on solo - it also has no effect on when I will find a block.
Knowing best share makes no difference at all - and also part of the reason why I've not yet bothered to show it on kano.is since it causes this type of confusion for some who don't understand bitcoin mining.

Maybe another example might help:

Someone makes a lottery of 1000 tickets worth $10 and only one winner who gets $5000
(yeah that's pretty shady - but you'd be surprised how often people part with their $/BTC under such shady circumstances Tongue)
The tickets have a number on them from 000 to 999
If the winning ticket is 808 and you had ticket 809, you were close - but - so what? You get nothing and it wont change your chances if you buy a ticket in the next lottery.

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June 12, 2015, 11:53:29 PM
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Thank you Kano for this Great information about mining .

I appreciate Your Clarification .
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June 13, 2015, 12:09:41 AM
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Thank you Kano for this Great information about mining .

I appreciate Your Clarification .

Kano knows his stuff, we appreciate you effort considering a new pool its good of you to put in the effort.

Love the insect stuff, it will make me smile for a long time Grin.

Good luck in your future ventures, I'm sure you'll go a long way.

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June 13, 2015, 12:28:59 AM
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Thank you too hedgy for your quotes
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June 13, 2015, 12:31:09 AM
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Thank you too hedgy for your quotes

No problem buddy, keep up the good work you'll go a long way Smiley.

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June 13, 2015, 01:41:04 AM
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Best thread in a while Tongue By the way I've got insects every where, fruit flies if anyone knows how to get rid of them HELP!
Time for another gin. Good luck on the pool.  
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June 13, 2015, 02:04:35 AM
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Best thread in a while Tongue By the way I've got insects every where, fruit flies if anyone knows how to get rid of them HELP!
Time for another gin. Good luck on the pool.  

Ha ha we like insects on this thread, especially if they are in a sink Cheesy.

Even more if they are surrounded by gin Tongue.

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