FreeBazaar - OpenBazaar with Monero

[TPTB_need_war]

So this project is to integrate XMR with OpenBazaar, correct?  Or is it to fork OpenBazaar to a completely separate codebase that supports XMR?

At first stage just integrate XMR into OpenBazaar as fork "FreeBazaar".
On the second if it possible, commit all into OpenBazaar. If not (because BTC is very hardcoded, OB-dev may decline it) then it will be parallel/separate XMR-Bazaar.

I suggest you make your fork have an API so it works with any crypto coin. Then if they don't accept your commits, then yours may likely become the dominant fork, assuming you have the resources and skills to carry it forward.

Whereas, if you make your code Monero only focused, then it has no wider-scale attractiveness to gain the political support you need.

Edit: it also potentially spreads your risk of wasted effort away from 100% dependence on any one outcome.

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[languagehasmeaning]

So this project is to integrate XMR with OpenBazaar, correct?  Or is it to fork OpenBazaar to a completely separate codebase that supports XMR?

At first stage just integrate XMR into OpenBazaar as fork "FreeBazaar".
On the second if it possible, commit all into OpenBazaar. If not (because BTC is very hardcoded, OB-dev may decline it) then it will be parallel/separate XMR-Bazaar.

I suggest you make your fork have an API so it works with any crypto coin. Then if they don't accept your commits, then yours may likely become the dominant fork, assuming you have the resources and skills to carry it forward.

Whereas, if you make your code Monero only focused, then it has no wider-scale attractiveness to gain the political support you need.

This may be a good idea and clearly worthy of some debate! Thanks TBTB

[BellaBitBit]

Is this project still alive?

Yes, but the code of OpenBazaar v2.0 is completely different from v1.0 and changed continuously before release.
So I'll releaze FreeBazaar (XMR-Version) after official release of OB.

I don't understand what the difference will be?  Do you have any idea when OB will open?

[DaveyJones]

So this project is to integrate XMR with OpenBazaar, correct?  Or is it to fork OpenBazaar to a completely separate codebase that supports XMR?

At first stage just integrate XMR into OpenBazaar as fork "FreeBazaar".
On the second if it possible, commit all into OpenBazaar. If not (because BTC is very hardcoded, OB-dev may decline it) then it will be parallel/separate XMR-Bazaar.

I suggest you make your fork have an API so it works with any crypto coin. Then if they don't accept your commits, then yours may likely become the dominant fork, assuming you have the resources and skills to carry it forward.

Whereas, if you make your code Monero only focused, then it has no wider-scale attractiveness to gain the political support you need.

Edit: it also potentially spreads your risk of wasted effort away from 100% dependence on any one outcome.

I highlighted the important part for you... is it still effort if some people paid for it?

[TPTB_need_war]

So this project is to integrate XMR with OpenBazaar, correct?  Or is it to fork OpenBazaar to a completely separate codebase that supports XMR?

At first stage just integrate XMR into OpenBazaar as fork "FreeBazaar".
On the second if it possible, commit all into OpenBazaar. If not (because BTC is very hardcoded, OB-dev may decline it) then it will be parallel/separate XMR-Bazaar.

I suggest you make your fork have an API so it works with any crypto coin. Then if they don't accept your commits, then yours may likely become the dominant fork, assuming you have the resources and skills to carry it forward.

Whereas, if you make your code Monero only focused, then it has no wider-scale attractiveness to gain the political support you need.

Edit: it also potentially spreads your risk of wasted effort away from 100% dependence on any one outcome.

I highlighted the important part for you... is it still effort if some people paid for it?

I rarely value my opportunity cost in $2000 or even $20,000 increments, unless it has come down to survival mode (and even then I in the past ate rice & salt so I could continue coding what I wanted to code). Whether I am delusional or not, I view my opportunity cost as $200,000, $2m, $20m increments and moreover that money is not my main goal (although I do need some).

I am paradigmatically and ideologically opposed to expending my finite life on closed paradigms. My goal is to change the world.

I always hating working for someone else. Even I had the best job at Fractal Design in 1993 & 1995, it just isn't me.

And that is why now I am working on the artist economy.

I can't speak for the priorities of others.

[mathgal23]

So this project is to integrate XMR with OpenBazaar, correct?  Or is it to fork OpenBazaar to a completely separate codebase that supports XMR?

At first stage just integrate XMR into OpenBazaar as fork "FreeBazaar".
On the second if it possible, commit all into OpenBazaar. If not (because BTC is very hardcoded, OB-dev may decline it) then it will be parallel/separate XMR-Bazaar.

I suggest you make your fork have an API so it works with any crypto coin. Then if they don't accept your commits, then yours may likely become the dominant fork, assuming you have the resources and skills to carry it forward.

Whereas, if you make your code Monero only focused, then it has no wider-scale attractiveness to gain the political support you need.

Edit: it also potentially spreads your risk of wasted effort away from 100% dependence on any one outcome.

I highlighted the important part for you... is it still effort if some people paid for it?

I rarely value my opportunity cost in $2000 or even $20,000 increments, unless it has come down to survival mode (and even then I in the past ate rice & salt so I could continue coding what I wanted to code). Whether I am delusional or not, I view my opportunity cost as $200,000, $2m, $20m increments and moreover that money is not my main goal (although I do need some).

I am paradigmatically and ideologically opposed to expending my finite life on closed paradigms. My goal is to change the world.

I always hating working for someone else. Even I had the best job at Fractal Design in 1993 & 1995, it just isn't me.

And that is why now I am working on the artist economy.

I can't speak for the priorities of others.

How would you view the potential of OpenBazaar? I think its potential is very large but so will be the competition.

[TPTB_need_war]

So this project is to integrate XMR with OpenBazaar, correct?  Or is it to fork OpenBazaar to a completely separate codebase that supports XMR?

At first stage just integrate XMR into OpenBazaar as fork "FreeBazaar".
On the second if it possible, commit all into OpenBazaar. If not (because BTC is very hardcoded, OB-dev may decline it) then it will be parallel/separate XMR-Bazaar.

I suggest you make your fork have an API so it works with any crypto coin. Then if they don't accept your commits, then yours may likely become the dominant fork, assuming you have the resources and skills to carry it forward.

Whereas, if you make your code Monero only focused, then it has no wider-scale attractiveness to gain the political support you need.

Edit: it also potentially spreads your risk of wasted effort away from 100% dependence on any one outcome.

I highlighted the important part for you... is it still effort if some people paid for it?

I rarely value my opportunity cost in $2000 or even $20,000 increments, unless it has come down to survival mode (and even then I in the past ate rice & salt so I could continue coding what I wanted to code). Whether I am delusional or not, I view my opportunity cost as $200,000, $2m, $20m increments and moreover that money is not my main goal (although I do need some).

I am paradigmatically and ideologically opposed to expending my finite life on closed paradigms. My goal is to change the world.

I always hating working for someone else. Even I had the best job at Fractal Design in 1993 & 1995, it just isn't me.

And that is why now I am working on the artist economy.

I can't speak for the priorities of others.

How would you view the potential of OpenBazaar? I think its potential is very large but so will be the competition.

I can't speak to the technical design of that project because I haven't studied it and the devil is usually in the details, e.g. see my comments in the Synereo thread about how a great conceptual idea (decentralized social networks) falls flat on its face in terms of implementation and design strategies pursued thus far.

The concept of a decentralized, permissionless Ebay seems to be at least from a superficial perspective, a very important and powerful one. That is why if you want to be a leader for the global community on such then pigeon-holing your effort to only Monero currency support is almost certainly not the winning strategy. If you want to make sure Monero support is in the main fork (and make sure the bindings for Monero work perfectly as that being one of your strong motivations) then I suggest formulating an open API for all currencies and at least also implement bindings to Bitcoin so your commits are more likely accepted in the main fork or your fork becomes the most popular. Any way, that is my 2 cents from the peanut gallery because my head is not deep in that project so I may be unaware of certain facts.

An API for cross-currency support also makes one think about how to make the API most general, which allows for Monero to change in the future and only the bindings need to change. You all know these design principles.

[HeroCat]

Well, yes Monero have future. So Free Bazaar can exist, if Monero users are growing. 

[dEBRUYNE]

Is this project still alive?

Yes, but the code of OpenBazaar v2.0 is completely different from v1.0 and changed continuously before release.
So I'll releaze FreeBazaar (XMR-Version) after official release of OB.

Now that Openbazaar is released on testnet, could you take another look at the code?

https://blog.openbazaar.org/openbazaar-released-on-the-testnet/

[mathgal23]

Is this project still alive?

Yes, but the code of OpenBazaar v2.0 is completely different from v1.0 and changed continuously before release.
So I'll releaze FreeBazaar (XMR-Version) after official release of OB.

Now that Openbazaar is released on testnet, could you take another look at the code?

https://blog.openbazaar.org/openbazaar-released-on-the-testnet/

I hope the answer is yes. This would be great for the Monero economy

[benthach]

Is this project still alive?

Yes, but the code of OpenBazaar v2.0 is completely different from v1.0 and changed continuously before release.
So I'll releaze FreeBazaar (XMR-Version) after official release of OB.

Now that Openbazaar is released on testnet, could you take another look at the code?

https://blog.openbazaar.org/openbazaar-released-on-the-testnet/

this going to make the get rich quick scam ethereium look nothing when more and more people using this openbazaar platform. yes, platform is all the raves about these days.

[Snail2]

this going to make the get rich quick scam ethereium look nothing when more and more people using this openbazaar platform. yes, platform is all the raves about these days.

What's the problem with a trading/marketplace platform? This one is at least a p2p stuff, so perhaps we can avoid exchanges (in many cases) in the future.

[Shrikez]

It would be a big step forward if the OP kept us in the loop about his intentions, seeing we contributed a sizeable number of Moneroj towards its development.

But I guess he is too busy counting his Dwarfpool fees from all the ETH craze.

[Atrides]

Now that Openbazaar is released on testnet, could you take another look at the code?

https://blog.openbazaar.org/openbazaar-released-on-the-testnet/

Yes, I'll look at the code.

[XMRpromotions]

Now that Openbazaar is released on testnet, could you take another look at the code?

https://blog.openbazaar.org/openbazaar-released-on-the-testnet/

Yes, I'll look at the code.

Thank you! It would be great if you could give us an ETA after you do.

[DaveyJones]

https://blog.openbazaar.org/openbazaar-is-open-for-business/

looks like it is finished.... any news or ETA atrides?

[Posum578]

Maybe it is wise to wait for the OpenBazaar to be a successful operation before we adopt it in FreeBazaar?

[Dotto]

The TPTB design strategie is the sound one. It could receive funds from other coins as well... potentially from all coins in fact.

I guess once OB grows it will accept all kind of coins, as it is the logical way. To be limited to BTC only doesn´t make that sense. In the meantime, shapeshift can be useful

[papa_lazzarou]

Maybe it is wise to wait for the OpenBazaar to be a successful operation before we adopt it in FreeBazaar?

The major problem I see there is what would Atrides do with the several thousand Monero that he received from the community to fund this project?

Disclaimer: I am bitching about it despite the fact that I did NOT contribute.

[eyeknock]

What's the problem with a trading/marketplace platform? This one is at least a p2p stuff, so perhaps we can avoid exchanges (in many cases) in the future.

god hear you!! exchanges are like a plague ( in the last times ) if we can avoid it, we will be more safe, i wish that people start to understand and use this type of trading platform, we will avoid lot of current problems, others will come yes, but in the end this p2p stuff must be a welcome software for all of us.