Vlad "plots" aginst best freind scammer Matthew N. Wright

[El Cabron]

Edit:  For context Vlads posts were posted because he was acting on behalf of a company that posted my skype logs on this forum (with out my consent or knowledge). They fought over the fact that they had this right so they lose any claim to privacy now. Keep in mind Vlad never talks about this issue in the thread.

Will buy Matthew's debt. How much would you want for it?

It seems I might be in position to collect. I do not want to pay much for it (there are a few people who offering me hes debt for free), maybe will pay some very symbolic amount.

I could however promise you a percentage of whatever I might be able to collect. And I can promise that Matthew will be very very unhappy once he finds out about this debt assignment.

I dont know what to think. What is your offer for five k?

First of all, please keep it all strictly confidential if you could.

I must mention that I am negotiating on behalf of Bitcoin Magazine (Bittalk Media Ltd).

What to offer? .... Hmmm... It is a bit unorthodox and hugely ironic... I will offer for it 12 issue subscription to Bitcoin Magazine, starting with #2.

Either this is a ploy to get Matthew to have his scammers tag taken down or Vlad is trying to take advantage of our sad situation for example take control of Matthew stake in the company.

Please do not sell your debt to Vlad for nothing. 12 issues of a mag is not worth 5,000 BTC.

Matthew is a scammer and should have the tag. Also Vlad taking over one of the few assets Matthew's debt holders have a chance of claiming is just dirty.

Matthew should give the shares of the company to his real debt holders not to his best friend and long time supporter Vlad.    

[zebedee]

Will buy Matthew's debt. How much would you want for it?

It seems I might be in position to collect. I do not want to pay much for it (there are a few people who offering me hes debt for free), maybe will pay some very symbolic amount.

I could however promise you a percentage of whatever I might be able to collect. And I can promise that Matthew will be very very unhappy once he finds out about this debt assignment.

I dont know what to think. What is your offer for five k?

First of all, please keep it all strictly confidential if you could.

I must mention that I am negotiating on behalf of Bitcoin Magazine (Bittalk Media Ltd).

What to offer? .... Hmmm... It is a bit unorthodox and hugely ironic... I will offer for it 12 issue subscription to Bitcoin Magazine, starting with #2.

Either this is a ploy to get Matthew to have his scammers tag taken down or Vlad is trying to take advantage of our sad situation for example take control of Matthew stake in the company.

Please do not sell your debt to Vlad for nothing. 12 issues of a mag is not worth 5,000 BTC.

Matthew is a scammer and should have the tag. Also Vlad taking over one of the few assets Matthew's debt holders have a chance of claiming is just dirty.

Matthew should give the shares of the company to his real debt holders not to his best friend and long time supporter Vlad.   

You really are a complete slimeball, Goat.  Posting PMs?  WTF is your game.

[Monster Tent]

Goat deserves a scammer tag for posting private conversations without permission.

[Monster Tent]

"Note: PM privacy is not guaranteed. Encrypt sensitive messages."

Seems the forum policy is that PM are personal messages and not private messages.

Theymos had made it clear they can be posted. I felt it necessary to protect other debt holders who plan to go after Matthews limited assets.

Its still slimy to do this. Like using your community standing to funnel money to a scammer 

[JMAHH]

Jesus if all the admins/VIPs/whatevers are going to fuck around as badly as the newbies... wtf are we to do?

[FlipPro]

Jesus if all the admins/VIPs/whatevers are going to fuck around as badly as the newbies... wtf are we to do?

+1

[Raoul Duke]

Oh Lord... Vladimir is trying to get the company equity back from Matthew for the price of a few 12 month subscriptions to Bitcoin Magazine lol

[HostFat]

It seems a good idea, better than nothing ( and Vladimir doesn't have to )

[zebedee]

"Note: PM privacy is not guaranteed. Encrypt sensitive messages."

Yes, because if you don't encrypt them, admins can read them.   Nothing to stop you reposting an ecrypted message to you in the clear, is there goat?  Especially your complete lack of personal morals.

Seems the forum policy is that PM are personal messages and not private messages.

Theymos had made it clear they can be posted. I felt it necessary to protect other debt holders who plan to go after Matthews limited assets.

Thank you for confirming for the Nth time to all reasonable people you are an untrustworthy piece of scum, willing to misread and twist words in any way possible post-facto to justify your actions.

[Atlas]

Let me get this straight, Matthew has yet to liquidate his equity in BitTalk Media? Has he not already claimed he has cut all ties with Bitcoin Magazine?

[drakahn]

I'm open to offers on my 3000BTC bet debt with MNW from either of you with a plan

[Vladimir]

Will buy Matthew's debt. How much would you want for it?

It seems I might be in position to collect. I do not want to pay much for it (there are a few people who offering me hes debt for free), maybe will pay some very symbolic amount.

I could however promise you a percentage of whatever I might be able to collect. And I can promise that Matthew will be very very unhappy once he finds out about this debt assignment.

I dont know what to think. What is your offer for five k?

First of all, please keep it all strictly confidential if you could.

I must mention that I am negotiating on behalf of Bitcoin Magazine (Bittalk Media Ltd).

What to offer? .... Hmmm... It is a bit unorthodox and hugely ironic... I will offer for it 12 issue subscription to Bitcoin Magazine, starting with #2.

Either this is a ploy to get Matthew to have his scammers tag taken down or Vlad is trying to take advantage of our sad situation for example take control of Matthew stake in the company.

Please do not sell your debt to Vlad for nothing. 12 issues of a mag is not worth 5,000 BTC.

Matthew is a scammer and should have the tag. Also Vlad taking over one of the few assets Matthew's debt holders have a chance of claiming is just dirty.

Matthew should give the shares of the company to his real debt holders not to his best friend and long time supporter Vlad.   

Good demontration for anyone who ever deals with Goat. Must read before doing any biz with him. Lesson to me too. NEVER BREAK YOUR OWN RULES. I have taken Goat from my shitlist and it was a mistake. back on said shitlist, Goat.

And the offer stays (to everyone not on my shitlist naturally).

Bittalk Media Ltd will buy for a symbolic price Matthew's debt. And we have bought plenty of it already.

P.S. This information was intended to be leaked eventually, so whatever.

[Atlas]

Let me get this straight, Matthew has yet to liquidate his equity in BitTalk Media? Has he not already claimed he has cut all ties with Bitcoin Magazine?

He got fired but still last I checked held a large amount of stock. That stock should be claimed by people Matthew owes money to.

It would be nice to see Bitcoin Magazine stake and profits distributed among the Bitcoin community.

[waspoza]

To mods: can we have Drama subforum pls? Many ppl are not interested in public dirty laundry washing.

[Justin00]

hehe aren't you suing bitcoinica, pirate and now Matthew ?
Your lawyer must love you

I'm open to offers on my 3000BTC bet debt with MNW from either of you with a plan

We are looking into suing for gambling debts in Korea. That is the only thing that might save Matthew from getting deported. :/

Gambling stuff is not so black and white.

[Atlas]

hehe aren't you suing bitcoinica, pirate and now Matthew ?
Your lawyer must love you

I'm open to offers on my 3000BTC bet debt with MNW from either of you with a plan

We are looking into suing for gambling debts in Korea. That is the only thing that might save Matthew from getting deported. :/

Gambling stuff is not so black and white.

There's a lot of money to be made here if the law is on their side.

[DeathAndTaxes]

So what did Vlad do that is wrong?  Matt indicated he had cut including ownership of BitTalk.  Guess that was yet another lie made by Matt. If Vlad uses his defaulted obligations as leverage to boost him from the company before he does anymore damage I don't see a problem with it.

Honestly I am not sure what the problem is?  Matt hasn't repaid the debt because he feels nobody is in a posistion to collect.  Vlad believes he is in a posistion to collect. Selling debt to "stronger hands" happens all the time, everyday, all around the world.   Vlad likely wants Matt far far away from the company he is a part owner.  Can you honestly blame him?  Matt has already done significant damage and if it comes out later that Matt still owns a significant stake that will be another blow to the company.   Obviously depsite his "apology" Matt is looking to play hardball and Vlad see his debt as a method to gain leverage.   It is called "big boy business".


Also Goat  posting PM publicly?  They are called PRIVATE Messages for a reason.  Nobody is saying it is criminal but it is downright scummy.  Your actions indicate you don't care if a conversation is private you are just going to violate that privacy when you feel like it.   Kinda sends a message that nobody should ever do business with you and nobody should ever tell you anything in confidence.

TL/DR:  "snitches get stitches"  j/k

[the_thing]

It seems to me that Vlad is only trying to reduce the impact of MNW's scam. Nothing wrong with that in my eyes.

[Monster Tent]

Matthews assets should go towards a bounty to make a pirate walk the plank.

[Fluttershy]

I'll have to disagree with you, Goat, consolidating the debt would make it easier to get everyone remaining on board for a big class-action suit, it would also streamline the payouts.