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shogdite (OP)
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June 16, 2015, 10:04:52 PM |
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Wondering what the general consensus is regarding conjugal visits in prison. The way I see it, these criminals broke the law and it's been determined by a judge or jury that their freedom is to be taken away.
So why let criminals have sex in prison?
Do they let inmates on death row have them? If not. Why not?
What do you guys think?
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zengryT
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June 16, 2015, 10:18:34 PM |
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I say let them fuck.
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Sourgummies
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June 16, 2015, 10:22:17 PM |
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Depends on their crime in my opinion. If they are in jail for battery,domestic,diddling or anything against kids the answer should be "No"!
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shogdite (OP)
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June 16, 2015, 10:32:08 PM |
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Depends on their crime in my opinion. If they are in jail for battery,domestic,diddling or anything against kids the answer should be "No"!
What if they are a drug dealer? Where does the line get drawn? |
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Sourgummies
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June 16, 2015, 10:43:27 PM |
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This really breaks down to how you want to treat people that have done society wrong. Do you want to create monsters or do you want to bring these people back into the fold? Pedophiles and serial killers are the only people I would not give a 2nd chance if I ran the world.
Have to remember a good majority of inmates are in there due to the war on drugs. Also have people that should be medicated rather than thrown in jail to rot and fend for themselves. So coming back around to the question,I stick to the line I mentioned in my first post.
Being pedophiles and people that beat or manipulate the opposite sex. Now that said I am presuming we are looking at men for the question.
Its a rabbit hole because you start pulling on all kinds of factors that could put us on one side of the fence or another.
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June 16, 2015, 10:49:32 PM |
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Hell, here in Texas they banned and confiscated any and all pornography - even pictures from wives, girlfriends. For the states that allow conjugal visits, it seems to be a tactic to keep inmates on their best behavior as conjugal rights will be stripped if the inmate receives any write-ups, etc. I don't have a problem with it as long as those receiving them aren't rapists, child molesters, etc.
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June 17, 2015, 04:09:42 PM |
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I guess you have to look at the pros and cons of it. I'm sure the instance of rape are higher in prisons where they're not allowed conjigal rights, plus it will be easier to sneak contraband into the prison whilst they're left in a room together.
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June 17, 2015, 04:19:32 PM |
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.... As a straight white guy with an existing sex drive do I seriously have to explain why any form of restricting sex or masturbation is a seriously bad idea for men?
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June 18, 2015, 02:11:02 PM |
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Yeah, I think it should be allowed. Seems like rape issues would definitely be increased if they removed this.
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shogdite (OP)
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June 18, 2015, 04:53:15 PM |
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.... As a straight white guy with an existing sex drive do I seriously have to explain why any form of restricting sex or masturbation is a seriously bad idea for men?
But if you raped, or robber or murdered maybe you don't deserve to have sex. I don't think they can stop you for jerking the jimmy though. How would they enforce such a rule? |
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shogdite (OP)
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June 18, 2015, 04:54:36 PM |
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Yeah, I think it should be allowed. Seems like rape issues would definitely be increased if they removed this.
If a murderer or a rapist gets raped in jail because jail disallows conjugal visits I'd see that as a bonus sentence to whatever the judge hands down. |
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Sourgummies
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June 18, 2015, 06:47:57 PM |
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You are coming to this conclusion presuming everyone in jail deserves to be there in the first place. Mental health and drug abuse make up a large segment of the population.
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June 18, 2015, 07:15:42 PM |
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Non Violent yes
Others if perfect discipline records and married or have children with person. This would help the children by keeping the family unit intact.
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June 19, 2015, 02:51:14 AM |
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OK. Let's go a step further. We should allow the prisoners to bring in commercial sex workers, in case they don't have any girlfriends.  These people are in prison to serve their sentence. They are not there to enjoy sex. Conjugal Visits can be allowed to people who are in for smaller charges, such as the possession of weed. But I oppose granting such privileges to the rapists and murderers. |
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elusive1
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June 19, 2015, 02:53:09 AM |
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Of course people shouldn't be incarcerated for smoking flowers anyway.
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June 19, 2015, 06:26:51 AM |
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OK. Let's go a step further. We should allow the prisoners to bring in commercial sex workers, in case they don't have any girlfriends. These people are in prison to serve their sentence. They are not there to enjoy sex. Conjugal Visits can be allowed to people who are in for smaller charges, such as the possession of weed. But I oppose granting such privileges to the rapists and murderers. Haha, thats a bright idea. Conjugal visits should not be granted for people who have a problem with rape and murder. Rather, they should be provided psychology classes and helped with their issues. The complete idea of a man going to jail is that he understands his mistakes, works on them and comes back as a better person. Punishment is secondary, the idea of becoming a better person is the motive. |
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June 19, 2015, 06:36:25 AM |
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I think they may do it to give the inmates another avenue to stay calm. I imagine tensions can run pretty high in prison, which could lead to fights and general violence. Let some of these guys knock one off every month and you may have a more chill community inside the bars. Just a guess...
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June 19, 2015, 06:44:49 AM |
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Don't forget: most inmates will be released one day (at least in my country, where life in prison means 30 years, and 30 years means 15 years effective incarceration)...
If you treat an inmate like an animal for 15 years, you will release an animal to society.
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bryant.coleman
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June 19, 2015, 06:50:59 AM |
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If you treat an inmate like an animal for 15 years, you will release an animal to society. If he is not fit to be released in to the society, then he should be locked up until he becomes one. And why prisoners sentenced to life imprisonment are released after 15 years? They should be there for life. Take the case of Anders Behring Breivik. He will be released from prison in less than 10 years time, despite killing 77 people in cold blood. |
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altcoinhosting
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June 19, 2015, 08:04:03 AM |
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If he is not fit to be released in to the society, then he should be locked up until he becomes one. And why prisoners sentenced to life imprisonment are released after 15 years? They should be there for life. Take the case of Anders Behring Breivik. He will be released from prison in less than 10 years time, despite killing 77 people in cold blood.
You are 100% right... I didn't vote for the politicians that wanted to go soft on crime, but apparently most of my fellow inhabitants did, hence they are releasing monsters in our society. |
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