amiryaqot
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August 06, 2015, 10:33:32 AM |
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Sorry to hear about your loss. 20 btc is a huge amount, considering the 4 betting addresses have received a total of 122 btc and the site has a 1% house edge. Apart from processing the bets only after it is confirmed, you may also consider to keep less bitcoin on your hot wallet, so to limit your loss in case something bad happens.
Limiting the hot wallet will not fix it because on chain game will always be connected to the cold wallet if someone win big but the owner must not accept any potential double spend transaction or only process transaction after 1 confirmation or transaction with atleast 0.0002 fee . I hope the owner publish a detail about this or atleast the thief address AFAIK the owner/admin already fixed issues about suspected transaction without enough fees to be proccessed only after the transaction got 1 confirm but i dont know what really happens on this issue If it has been fixed then this thing wont happen because if you see what yahoo posted then you can see that the thief steal it with double spend so the site maybe still allow some transaction to be processed even with not enough fee. No detail anymore so I hope the owner can fix this and post detail about this I'm just wondering how can someone hack on-chain gambling site? Isn't it much more safer than just normal off-chain? This is really weird, the only method I know to "hack" on-chain site is double spend. yes pachinko is facing problem cause of this double spend as the admin statement they have been just lost 20 BTC due to this double spend attack so that is really worry situation for any new and low funded gambling site.
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arallmuus
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August 06, 2015, 11:58:38 AM |
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I'm just wondering how can someone hack on-chain gambling site? Isn't it much more safersecure than just normal off-chain?
Security in an on-chain games is pretty much no different than an off-chain game. depending on each site, some off-chain game could be actually much more secure than an on-chain. The significant different would be that an on-chain game hold no player's fund therefore if something happened then only the owner is in risk however in an off-chain game the risks are double on both the owner and players because the site keeps the players fund This is really weird, the only method I know to "hack" on-chain site is double spend.
There isnt anything much to speculate on because given the less information regarding this incident however once the site is up on Monday the owner could give a full details explanation about this incident ( or he will not )
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August 06, 2015, 05:49:54 PM |
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I heard about your loss by the hackers and caused you closed the campaign. Sorry to hear that, I hope you can recover it and good luck on your site.
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apriyani420
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August 06, 2015, 06:54:01 PM |
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wait is the actual maintenance time is happening because of that hack as they need to recover all the looses or its because they having some ordinary problems with the game?
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Shogen
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August 07, 2015, 01:45:57 AM |
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Sorry to hear about your loss. 20 btc is a huge amount, considering the 4 betting addresses have received a total of 122 btc and the site has a 1% house edge. Apart from processing the bets only after it is confirmed, you may also consider to keep less bitcoin on your hot wallet, so to limit your loss in case something bad happens.
Limiting the hot wallet will not fix it because on chain game will always be connected to the cold wallet if someone win big but the owner must not accept any potential double spend transaction or only process transaction after 1 confirmation or transaction with atleast 0.0002 fee . I hope the owner publish a detail about this or atleast the thief address I am also suggesting them to process bets only after the tx is confirmed in my post. And no, on-chain site does not need to keep all the bitcoin in the hot wallet, as the big payout could and should be delayed slightly to make sure it is legit. Such measure has been used on LB for a long time, and I don't see any people having complaint.
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michael23
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August 07, 2015, 01:57:45 AM |
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nah im not the owner i was just helping promote the site for the owner. really nice guy and didnt deserve to be robbed
Nobody deserve to be robbed, really sorry to hear this problem happened to games bit. Even though I rarely played there I kinda like that games. Hope you guys can solved this problem and getting even better in the future
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games.bit (OP)
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August 10, 2015, 08:46:42 AM |
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We planned to came back today. But we have change of plans. We will be back with all features now and there will be offchain + on chain option to play. We have now very strong double spend detection and we are confidant to put again our bankroll in hot wallet.
But we will be back in September after we make offchain option also and when game is complete with other features as well.
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August 10, 2015, 08:50:36 AM |
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We planned to came back today. But we have change of plans. We will be back with all features now and there will be offchain + on chain option to play. We have now very strong double spend detection and we are confidant to put again our bankroll in hot wallet.
But we will be back in September after we make offchain option also and when game is complete with other features as well.
No, you still shouldn't put your entire bankroll in the hot wallet. Have enough funds to cover normal and above average wins. But big wins can be manually processed, as other sites do. But give them the message that it will be processed manually or something in the tx part, so that they don't think somethign wrong happened.
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boopy265420
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August 10, 2015, 09:42:35 AM |
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We planned to came back today. But we have change of plans. We will be back with all features now and there will be offchain + on chain option to play. We have now very strong double spend detection and we are confidant to put again our bankroll in hot wallet.
But we will be back in September after we make offchain option also and when game is complete with other features as well.
No, you still shouldn't put your entire bankroll in the hot wallet. Have enough funds to cover normal and above average wins. But big wins can be manually processed, as other sites do. But give them the message that it will be processed manually or something in the tx part, so that they don't think somethign wrong happened. It is good to see that pachinko will be up again sometime today with new features.I will second ndnhc that you should be careful with bankroll in hot wallet to avoid every possible trouble or attack in future.All the best once again.
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amiryaqot
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August 10, 2015, 10:04:55 AM |
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We planned to came back today. But we have change of plans. We will be back with all features now and there will be offchain + on chain option to play. We have now very strong double spend detection and we are confidant to put again our bankroll in hot wallet.
But we will be back in September after we make offchain option also and when game is complete with other features as well.
good to see that pachinko will be back up today and offchain is another great news, i will also advice about put all money into hot wallet that can risky and can lead to trouble again so keep only enough amount in hot wallet and big winning process manually like ndnhc said above.
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michael23
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August 11, 2015, 01:26:56 AM |
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We planned to came back today. But we have change of plans. We will be back with all features now and there will be offchain + on chain option to play. We have now very strong double spend detection and we are confidant to put again our bankroll in hot wallet.
But we will be back in September after we make offchain option also and when game is complete with other features as well.
No, you still shouldn't put your entire bankroll in the hot wallet. Have enough funds to cover normal and above average wins. But big wins can be manually processed, as other sites do. But give them the message that it will be processed manually or something in the tx part, so that they don't think somethign wrong happened. Agree with this suggestion, but I think its best that you have a mods to stay on chat as well so if someone win big and the payment not processed automatically mods can give them an explanation to what is happened.
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August 13, 2015, 11:24:28 AM |
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We planned to came back today. But we have change of plans. We will be back with all features now and there will be offchain + on chain option to play. We have now very strong double spend detection and we are confidant to put again our bankroll in hot wallet.
But we will be back in September after we make offchain option also and when game is complete with other features as well.
good to see that pachinko will be back up today and offchain is another great news, i will also advice about put all money into hot wallet that can risky and can lead to trouble again so keep only enough amount in hot wallet and big winning process manually like ndnhc said above. they sais in september ... not today Yep, I trully did not understand what that guy said before...
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games.bit (OP)
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September 06, 2015, 09:11:57 PM |
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We are back again with code and bug fixes. Will be adding new features and promotions soon.
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September 06, 2015, 09:22:04 PM |
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I'd like to announce that pachinko is back. Be looking for some awesome new promos soon everyone
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September 06, 2015, 09:23:54 PM |
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We are back again with code and bug fixes. Will be adding new features and promotions soon.
Yeah I just saw and visited the site and it is working fine.I would love to see the upcoming features and my best wishes for pachink this time to be successful.
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amiryaqot
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September 06, 2015, 09:30:21 PM |
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This is good news to see pachinko is back online so when we can see that offchain betting function? at the moment no option to play with offchain betting system it is still onchain.
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newcripto
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September 06, 2015, 09:34:38 PM |
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I can't wait to see those cool features and promotion.That is good news that bugs have been fixed.Hope this time pachinko will be up and grow for good.We were really missing pachinko thanks for bringing it up again.
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September 07, 2015, 02:14:37 AM |
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good news! welcome back online looking for more features and contest
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September 07, 2015, 02:43:07 AM |
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Id like to speak with the admin of the site. I visited the site to play some bits, i used my mobile to send the bet, only to find out that i sent all my balance. Good thing it was over the max limit, so it did not roll. But the BTC was not returned on my address.. So out of panic, i imported my wallet to my desktop and tried to re-spend it back to my address, but failed to do so. Now my btc is stuck on your site. I just want it back, you can send it back to the same address it came from.
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steveds
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September 07, 2015, 04:53:01 AM |
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Id like to speak with the admin of the site. I visited the site to play some bits, i used my mobile to send the bet, only to find out that i sent all my balance. Good thing it was over the max limit, so it did not roll. But the BTC was not returned on my address.. So out of panic, i imported my wallet to my desktop and tried to re-spend it back to my address, but failed to do so. Now my btc is stuck on your site. I just want it back, you can send it back to the same address it came from. i think youre gonna need to post a transaction id at a minimum here. with the recent security issue i dont think admin just gonna take someones word
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