Bitcoin Forum
May 23, 2017, 01:35:55 AM *
News: Latest stable version of Bitcoin Core: 0.14.1  [Torrent]. (New!)
 
   Home   Help Search Donate Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Political systems explained Using Cows  (Read 4045 times)
k3t3r
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 181


View Profile
September 16, 2012, 06:08:37 PM
 #1

http://youtu.be/YIPDJ1Cc_uw

Political Systems Explained for Dummies (and Farmers) Using Two Cows

The fundamental principles of the different types of political and social systems explained via a simple example using two cows. You heard right, COWS. If you know what a cow is and are aware of the fact that the produce more than just steaks for your dinner, such as milk, you are good to go and should have no problem to understand it.

FEUDALISM: You have two cows. Your lord takes some of the milk.

PURE SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. You have to take care of all of the cows. The government gives you as much milk as you need.

BUREAUCRATIC SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and put them in a barn with everyone else's cows. They are cared for by ex-chicken farmers. You have to take care of the chickens the government took from the chicken farmers. The government gives you as much milk and eggs as the regulations say you need.

FASCISM: You have two cows. The government takes both, hires you to take care of them and sells you the milk.

PURE COMMUNISM: You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk.

RUSSIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk.

CAMBODIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. The government takes both of them and shoots you.

DICTATORSHIP: You have two cows. The government takes both and drafts you.

PURE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors decide who gets the milk.

REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors pick someone to tell you who gets the milk.

LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

BUREAUCRACY: You have two cows. At first the government regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them. Then it pays you not to milk them. Then it takes both, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain. Then it requires you to fill out forms accounting for the missing cows.

PURE ANARCHY: You have two cows. Either you sell the milk at a fair price or your neighbors try to take the cows and kill you.

SURREALISM: You have two giraffes. The government requires you to take harmonica lessons.
1495503355
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1495503355

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1495503355
Reply with quote  #2

1495503355
Report to moderator
"The nature of Bitcoin is such that once version 0.1 was released, the core design was set in stone for the rest of its lifetime." -- Satoshi
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1495503355
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1495503355

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1495503355
Reply with quote  #2

1495503355
Report to moderator
Domrada
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 197



View Profile
September 16, 2012, 06:22:46 PM
 #2

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102429.msg1145442#msg1145442
FirstAscent
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 812


View Profile
September 16, 2012, 07:33:27 PM
 #3

LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull. You create more cows and bulls. Your business grows. You compete with your neighbors, engaging in land grabs for your burgeoning business. You shoot all the wolves because once you saw a calf get taken down by a wolf. Everyone else does the same. No more wolves. Ungulates, now not fearing wolves, browse the vegetation around streams, creeks and rivers, where before, they wouldn't because the terrain around the river banks hindered their escape in the event of a wolf attack. They also shit in the water, as well as your cows. There are now no more rodents and smaller species that used to hide in the now decimated vegetation around the river banks. And so the symbiotic relationships between organisms die a slow death in the riparian zones (the river banks). The soil is now not cycled, and the water loses its purity, becoming polluted downstream. Fences go up because your land is your land, by god. Species migration suffers, and extinctions occur. The world dies a slow a death.
bb113
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 728


View Profile
September 16, 2012, 08:35:58 PM
 #4

LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull. You create more cows and bulls. Your business grows. You compete with your neighbors, engaging in land grabs for your burgeoning business. You shoot all the wolves because once you saw a calf get taken down by a wolf. Everyone else does the same. No more wolves. Ungulates, now not fearing wolves, browse the vegetation around streams, creeks and rivers, where before, they wouldn't because the terrain around the river banks hindered their escape in the event of a wolf attack. They also shit in the water, as well as your cows. There are now no more rodents and smaller species that used to hide in the now decimated vegetation around the river banks. And so the symbiotic relationships between organisms die a slow death in the riparian zones (the river banks). The soil is now not cycled, and the water loses its purity, becoming polluted downstream. Fences go up because your land is your land, by god. Species migration suffers, and extinctions occur. The world dies a slow a death.

Isn't that what is happening currently?
FirstAscent
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 812


View Profile
September 16, 2012, 08:43:34 PM
 #5

LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull. You create more cows and bulls. Your business grows. You compete with your neighbors, engaging in land grabs for your burgeoning business. You shoot all the wolves because once you saw a calf get taken down by a wolf. Everyone else does the same. No more wolves. Ungulates, now not fearing wolves, browse the vegetation around streams, creeks and rivers, where before, they wouldn't because the terrain around the river banks hindered their escape in the event of a wolf attack. They also shit in the water, as well as your cows. There are now no more rodents and smaller species that used to hide in the now decimated vegetation around the river banks. And so the symbiotic relationships between organisms die a slow death in the riparian zones (the river banks). The soil is now not cycled, and the water loses its purity, becoming polluted downstream. Fences go up because your land is your land, by god. Species migration suffers, and extinctions occur. The world dies a slow a death.

Isn't that what is happening currently?

Exactly! And it's sad. Here's why. Consider this statement:

Quote
LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

Isn't that the current model in most nations?
conspirosphere.tk
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2016


Revolution will be decentralized


View Profile
September 16, 2012, 08:51:06 PM
 #6


The world dies a slow a death.

And then the system get reset and another cycle can begin, just like in FPS videogames when you get killed and re-born in the same place.
You might as well re-born as a cow: there is no much difference with taxpayers in fact of getting milked.

FirstAscent
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 812


View Profile
September 16, 2012, 08:55:10 PM
 #7

You might as well re-born as a cow: there is no much difference with taxpayers in fact of getting milked.

It's a little bit more complex than that. Your argument shouldn't begin and end with the concept of being taxed.
k3t3r
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 181


View Profile
September 16, 2012, 08:56:49 PM
 #8

LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull. You create more cows and bulls. Your business grows. You compete with your neighbors, engaging in land grabs for your burgeoning business. You shoot all the wolves because once you saw a calf get taken down by a wolf. Everyone else does the same. No more wolves. Ungulates, now not fearing wolves, browse the vegetation around streams, creeks and rivers, where before, they wouldn't because the terrain around the river banks hindered their escape in the event of a wolf attack. They also shit in the water, as well as your cows. There are now no more rodents and smaller species that used to hide in the now decimated vegetation around the river banks. And so the symbiotic relationships between organisms die a slow death in the riparian zones (the river banks). The soil is now not cycled, and the water loses its purity, becoming polluted downstream. Fences go up because your land is your land, by god. Species migration suffers, and extinctions occur. The world dies a slow a death.

Isn't that what is happening currently?

Exactly! And it's sad. Here's why. Consider this statement:

Quote
LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

Isn't that the current model in most nations?

I think the model that we have in most nations goes something like this.

you have two cows you sell one, the government takes a quarter of the profit and gives it to the banks as interest on the national debt.

you had hoped to buy bull but now you must borrow the extra from the bank to pay for the bull. you then have to pay back the loan with interest which you can do for a short ammount of time but as your bull and cow have not generated enough ROI eventually you default. the bank comes along and takes your bull and your cow. you claim social security which the government borrows from the banks adding to the national debt.
bb113
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 728


View Profile
September 16, 2012, 09:02:40 PM
 #9

LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull. You create more cows and bulls. Your business grows. You compete with your neighbors, engaging in land grabs for your burgeoning business. You shoot all the wolves because once you saw a calf get taken down by a wolf. Everyone else does the same. No more wolves. Ungulates, now not fearing wolves, browse the vegetation around streams, creeks and rivers, where before, they wouldn't because the terrain around the river banks hindered their escape in the event of a wolf attack. They also shit in the water, as well as your cows. There are now no more rodents and smaller species that used to hide in the now decimated vegetation around the river banks. And so the symbiotic relationships between organisms die a slow death in the riparian zones (the river banks). The soil is now not cycled, and the water loses its purity, becoming polluted downstream. Fences go up because your land is your land, by god. Species migration suffers, and extinctions occur. The world dies a slow a death.

Isn't that what is happening currently?

Exactly! And it's sad. Here's why. Consider this statement:

Quote
LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

Isn't that the current model in most nations?

So now the ideas of AnCap (which are not implemented anywhere) are to blame for the world's problems? The current model in most nations is crony capitalism. CronyCap
FirstAscent
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 812


View Profile
September 17, 2012, 01:41:01 AM
 #10

LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull. You create more cows and bulls. Your business grows. You compete with your neighbors, engaging in land grabs for your burgeoning business. You shoot all the wolves because once you saw a calf get taken down by a wolf. Everyone else does the same. No more wolves. Ungulates, now not fearing wolves, browse the vegetation around streams, creeks and rivers, where before, they wouldn't because the terrain around the river banks hindered their escape in the event of a wolf attack. They also shit in the water, as well as your cows. There are now no more rodents and smaller species that used to hide in the now decimated vegetation around the river banks. And so the symbiotic relationships between organisms die a slow death in the riparian zones (the river banks). The soil is now not cycled, and the water loses its purity, becoming polluted downstream. Fences go up because your land is your land, by god. Species migration suffers, and extinctions occur. The world dies a slow a death.

Isn't that what is happening currently?

Exactly! And it's sad. Here's why. Consider this statement:

Quote
LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

Isn't that the current model in most nations?

So now the ideas of AnCap (which are not implemented anywhere) are to blame for the world's problems? The current model in most nations is crony capitalism. CronyCap

Perhaps you have made the following error: Failed to recognize that it wasn't me, but the original poster who labeled ANARCHO-CAPITALISM as the system which is prevalent today in most nations.
FirstAscent
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 812


View Profile
September 17, 2012, 01:41:43 AM
 #11

LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull. You create more cows and bulls. Your business grows. You compete with your neighbors, engaging in land grabs for your burgeoning business. You shoot all the wolves because once you saw a calf get taken down by a wolf. Everyone else does the same. No more wolves. Ungulates, now not fearing wolves, browse the vegetation around streams, creeks and rivers, where before, they wouldn't because the terrain around the river banks hindered their escape in the event of a wolf attack. They also shit in the water, as well as your cows. There are now no more rodents and smaller species that used to hide in the now decimated vegetation around the river banks. And so the symbiotic relationships between organisms die a slow death in the riparian zones (the river banks). The soil is now not cycled, and the water loses its purity, becoming polluted downstream. Fences go up because your land is your land, by god. Species migration suffers, and extinctions occur. The world dies a slow a death.

Isn't that what is happening currently?

Exactly! And it's sad. Here's why. Consider this statement:

Quote
LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

Isn't that the current model in most nations?

I think the model that we have in most nations goes something like this.

you have two cows you sell one, the government takes a quarter of the profit and gives it to the banks as interest on the national debt.

you had hoped to buy bull but now you must borrow the extra from the bank to pay for the bull. you then have to pay back the loan with interest which you can do for a short ammount of time but as your bull and cow have not generated enough ROI eventually you default. the bank comes along and takes your bull and your cow. you claim social security which the government borrows from the banks adding to the national debt.

Remind me to never have you do my taxes. You've made some mistakes there.
bb113
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 728


View Profile
September 17, 2012, 01:47:35 AM
 #12

LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull. You create more cows and bulls. Your business grows. You compete with your neighbors, engaging in land grabs for your burgeoning business. You shoot all the wolves because once you saw a calf get taken down by a wolf. Everyone else does the same. No more wolves. Ungulates, now not fearing wolves, browse the vegetation around streams, creeks and rivers, where before, they wouldn't because the terrain around the river banks hindered their escape in the event of a wolf attack. They also shit in the water, as well as your cows. There are now no more rodents and smaller species that used to hide in the now decimated vegetation around the river banks. And so the symbiotic relationships between organisms die a slow death in the riparian zones (the river banks). The soil is now not cycled, and the water loses its purity, becoming polluted downstream. Fences go up because your land is your land, by god. Species migration suffers, and extinctions occur. The world dies a slow a death.

Isn't that what is happening currently?

Exactly! And it's sad. Here's why. Consider this statement:

Quote
LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

Isn't that the current model in most nations?

So now the ideas of AnCap (which are not implemented anywhere) are to blame for the world's problems? The current model in most nations is crony capitalism. CronyCap

Perhaps you have made the following error: Failed to recognize that it wasn't me, but the original poster who labeled ANARCHO-CAPITALISM as the system which is prevalent today in most nations.


Nope, I disagree that "You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull" is the current model (with)in most nations. It was you who implied AnCap was the prevalent system in that sense.

I do agree that is how it works between nations and it that sense we see pretty rampant abuse of force.
theymos
Administrator
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2660


View Profile
September 17, 2012, 01:50:37 AM
 #13

Arachno-communism: You have two cows. Both are confiscated and sent to the capital, where one starves and the other is used to hold the offspring of our benevolent spider lords.

1NXYoJ5xU91Jp83XfVMHwwTUyZFK64BoAD
FirstAscent
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 812


View Profile
September 17, 2012, 02:03:47 AM
 #14

LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull. You create more cows and bulls. Your business grows. You compete with your neighbors, engaging in land grabs for your burgeoning business. You shoot all the wolves because once you saw a calf get taken down by a wolf. Everyone else does the same. No more wolves. Ungulates, now not fearing wolves, browse the vegetation around streams, creeks and rivers, where before, they wouldn't because the terrain around the river banks hindered their escape in the event of a wolf attack. They also shit in the water, as well as your cows. There are now no more rodents and smaller species that used to hide in the now decimated vegetation around the river banks. And so the symbiotic relationships between organisms die a slow death in the riparian zones (the river banks). The soil is now not cycled, and the water loses its purity, becoming polluted downstream. Fences go up because your land is your land, by god. Species migration suffers, and extinctions occur. The world dies a slow a death.

Isn't that what is happening currently?

Exactly! And it's sad. Here's why. Consider this statement:

Quote
LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

Isn't that the current model in most nations?

So now the ideas of AnCap (which are not implemented anywhere) are to blame for the world's problems? The current model in most nations is crony capitalism. CronyCap

Perhaps you have made the following error: Failed to recognize that it wasn't me, but the original poster who labeled ANARCHO-CAPITALISM as the system which is prevalent today in most nations.


Nope, I disagree that "You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull" is the current model (with)in most nations. It was you who implied AnCap was the prevalent system in that sense.

No. I didn't imply AnCap was the prevalent system.
k3t3r
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 181


View Profile
September 17, 2012, 07:06:23 AM
 #15


Isn't that what is happening currently?

Exactly! And it's sad. Here's why. Consider this statement:

Quote
LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

Isn't that the current model in most nations?

I think the model that we have in most nations goes something like this.

you have two cows you sell one, the government takes a quarter of the profit and gives it to the banks as interest on the national debt.

you had hoped to buy bull but now you must borrow the extra from the bank to pay for the bull. you then have to pay back the loan with interest which you can do for a short ammount of time but as your bull and cow have not generated enough ROI eventually you default. the bank comes along and takes your bull and your cow. you claim social security which the government borrows from the banks adding to the national debt.

Remind me to never have you do my taxes. You've made some mistakes there.
what? you dont pay tax in cows in your country?

your asking ME to remind YOU not to let ME do YOUR taxes.

i wont be able to remind you of this i have cows to protect from the local militia.
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!