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June 25, 2015, 07:54:11 PM
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https://fortune.com/2015/06/25/openbazaar-not-silk-road

Does Brian think, there will be only legal things for sale on OB? Is he getting nervous already?

I think OB will have a bad image in a few years, just like Bitcoin faces now, but someday they will realize that you can't stop decentralization.

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June 25, 2015, 08:25:25 PM
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This must be completely decenterlized for it to work or Merica will shut it down.
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June 25, 2015, 08:37:54 PM
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Why even mention Silkroad? This is a shameless press release that mentions Silkroad for no other reason than to gain attention using keywords that have nothing to do with OpenBazaar.

#silkroad
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June 25, 2015, 08:42:37 PM
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Why even mention Silkroad? This is a shameless press release that mentions Silkroad for no other reason than to gain attention using keywords that have nothing to do with OpenBazaar.

#silkroad
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It is a marketplace that will make it easy to sell illegal goods. I don't understand how you think OB is nothing like silkroad? I think it's a fair comparison.

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June 25, 2015, 08:43:24 PM
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each member of the OpenBazaar is equal .OpenBazaar is open-source software that runs a peer-to-peer network Instead of relying on a single leader like Silk Road's Dread Pirate Roberts
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June 25, 2015, 08:49:47 PM
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I'm glad to hear it won't be the next Silk Road because it can't have legally transacted BTC stolen by government agents.

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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June 25, 2015, 08:51:53 PM
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I think they're probably the next evolutionary step from Silk Road. Any darknet market will likely have to be decentralised in the future to actually remain operational or to give its users faith that the admins or some other entity isn't going to run off with their money at some point.

This must be completely decenterlized for it to work or Merica will shut it down.

Well that's the idea with desentralised markets  Cheesy.

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June 25, 2015, 09:01:09 PM
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Why even mention Silkroad? This is a shameless press release that mentions Silkroad for no other reason than to gain attention using keywords that have nothing to do with OpenBazaar.

#silkroad
#silkroad
#silkroad

It is a marketplace that will make it easy to sell illegal goods. I don't understand how you think OB is nothing like silkroad? I think it's a fair comparison.

I could name 5 popular black market sites that are alive and well today that deal in illegal products. People that sell Cocaine and Heroin most likely won't appear on a website that is moderated and have strict rules about what vendors are allowed to sell.
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June 25, 2015, 09:04:55 PM
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I could name 5 popular black market sites that are alive and well today that deal in illegal products. People that sell Cocaine and Heroin most likely won't appear on a website that is moderated and have strict rules about what vendors are allowed to sell.

OB is going to have moderators and rules? Doesn't sound very decentralised to me if so, but I'm not entirely sure how a fully decentralised or uncensored one would work anyway. If OB doesn't really work for people wanting to buy illicit materials one will come about that will work for those people that's for sure.

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June 25, 2015, 09:08:05 PM
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I could name 5 popular black market sites that are alive and well today that deal in illegal products. People that sell Cocaine and Heroin most likely won't appear on a website that is moderated and have strict rules about what vendors are allowed to sell.

OB is going to have moderators and rules? Doesn't sound very decentralised to me if so, but I'm not entirely sure how a fully decentralised or uncensored one would work anyway. If OB doesn't really work for people wanting to buy illicit materials one will come about that will work for those people that's for sure.

Even Silkroad banned the sale of firearms, ammunition and several other questionable items/services.
I remember a murder for hire section...
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June 25, 2015, 09:35:41 PM
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I hope this site grows and is not shut down, maybe it could be the central market for things some day, like an ebay for cryptos.
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June 25, 2015, 11:02:27 PM
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Why even mention Silkroad? This is a shameless press release that mentions Silkroad for no other reason than to gain attention using keywords that have nothing to do with OpenBazaar.

#silkroad
#silkroad
#silkroad

It is a marketplace that will make it easy to sell illegal goods. I don't understand how you think OB is nothing like silkroad? I think it's a fair comparison.


As far as I can tell it is not going to function over the Tor network, so how will it "make it easy to sell illegal goods"? Major drug dealers are not going to take a step backwards with thier OpSec.
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June 25, 2015, 11:03:26 PM
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I think they are going to be the next eBay, with legal items and for normal people
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June 26, 2015, 01:35:11 AM
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government could target people who run the decentralized software .. just like they target people who download via torrents

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June 26, 2015, 09:35:44 AM
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https://fortune.com/2015/06/25/openbazaar-not-silk-road

Does Brian think, there will be only legal things for sale on OB? Is he getting nervous already?

I think OB will have a bad image in a few years, just like Bitcoin faces now, but someday they will realize that you can't stop decentralization.

If OB gets a bad image as such people will just create a gazillion similar ones, eventually people will wake up and see there is nobody to blame but themselves. 
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June 26, 2015, 10:16:09 AM
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government could target people who run the decentralized software .. just like they target people who download via torrents

They could, but it would not be easy. They would have to take them down one at a time since there is no central chokepoint. Due to resource limitations they would likely target only the biggest fish and small time sellers could thrive.
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June 26, 2015, 10:25:27 AM
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Does OpenBazaar offer some sort of moderation or reporting system for undesirable or illegal products? If so, that might help with some control, although that somewhat goes against the whole ideal of being decentralised.
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June 26, 2015, 10:41:43 AM
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government could target people who run the decentralized software .. just like they target people who download via torrents

Then route your traffic through a safe proxy or tor. I think the idea is even if they did start coming after people they can't take the entire network down. One hoster or torrent seeder gets taken out then there's a thousand more they've got to go after.

Does OpenBazaar offer some sort of moderation or reporting system for undesirable or illegal products? If so, that might help with some control, although that somewhat goes against the whole ideal of being decentralised.

I'm not sure how it's going to work but surely they wont let users sell child porn and weaponized uranium on there will they?
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June 26, 2015, 11:07:55 AM
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I think they are going to be the next eBay, with legal items and for normal people

People will sell illegal products unless there is a mechanism to prevent people selling illegal products. It might put people off if they make it impossible to use the system through Tor, or VPNs, and make all users IP addresses clearly visible. It's unlikely anyone would risk selling anything illegal if they couldn't do it anonymously.
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June 26, 2015, 05:24:05 PM
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So, how does BitTorrent handle illegal stuff? I don't use it, but I would think they don't have child porn being shared.
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