OpenBazaar founder: We aren't the next Silk Road

[SpanishSoldier]

So, how does BitTorrent handle illegal stuff? I don't use it, but I would think they don't have child porn being shared.

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[ifightformerkel]

That will be the big question, how they can delete illegal stuff fast.
But i bet they will find a solution, ebay can handle it also.

OpenBazaar have big sponsors, they will employ a lot of new workers that will patrol and search for illegal stuff and delete it.

[Victor Beckham]

That will be the big question, how they can delete illegal stuff fast.
But i bet they will find a solution, ebay can handle it also.

OpenBazaar have big sponsors, they will employ a lot of new workers that will patrol and search for illegal stuff and delete it.

That is not how a decentralized marketplace is supposed to work. If someone has the authority to delete other's stuff, then it is centralization.

[Slark]

So, how does BitTorrent handle illegal stuff? I don't use it, but I would think they don't have child porn being shared.

There is simple thing called common sense and moderation. There are mods who check comments and torrents which contains abusive images, child or extremely ugly fetish porn or sick things like that.
We could have similar system integrated in the OpenBazaar. Just let mods do their work.

[TheButterZone]

So, how does BitTorrent handle illegal stuff? I don't use it, but I would think they don't have child porn being shared.

There is simple thing called common sense and moderation. There are mods who check comments and torrents which contains abusive images, child or extremely ugly fetish porn or sick things like that.
We could have similar system integrated in the OpenBazaar. Just let mods do their work.

The mods are on torrent listing sites; they don't actually moderate seeds and peers using the BitTorrent protocol.

[gentlemand]

The mods are on torrent listing sites; they don't actually moderate seeds and peers using the BitTorrent protocol.

I can imagine that's how it might end up working for many. There'll be sanitised portals that become popular. Perhaps vendors there will club together to increase buying power and reduce prices. If you want the grime then you'll be able to sniff around elsewhere.

[TheButterZone]

I would not patronize those portals, just as I don't patronize random Amazon seller portals where they only list their specific items encoded with their Amazon Associates referral URLs. I might patronize the Amazon ones if the sellers were bona fide libertarian/an-cap, but in the case of OpenBazaar, it would be readily apparent when portals are anti-liberty, anti-capitalist, excluding competitors, and even legal goods/services by having too narrow a selection of them.

[gentlemand]

I would not patronize those portals, just as I don't patronize random Amazon seller portals where they only list their specific items encoded with their Amazon Associates referral URLs. I might patronize the Amazon ones if the sellers were bona fide libertarian/an-cap, but in the case of OpenBazaar, it would be readily apparent when portals are anti-liberty, anti-capitalist, excluding competitors, and even legal goods/services by having too narrow a selection of them.

I assume it'll be integrated into online storefronts as parts of individual websites as much as it becomes a giant marketplace in itself. If someone wants a libertarian Hello Kitty Iphone case no doubt there'll be one somewhere for them.

It's becoming an increasingly intriguing prospect. I'll be very interested to see how the world chooses to make use of it. It might go off in some very unexpected directions.

[fryarminer]

I really don't see how they can regulate it. From what I read ANYTHING can be sold on there.

[Amph]

So, how does BitTorrent handle illegal stuff? I don't use it, but I would think they don't have child porn being shared.

i think there are sort of moderator that check the torrent that users upload every day

it would be the same here, the escrow/arbiter will check if what you are selling is illegal or not

but then we can fall in a centralization market, which isn't what open bazar is aiming for

the point is that you can't have 100% regulation and decentralization, hell you can not even have 100% regulation in a centralized system...

[WhatTheGox]

I really don't see how they can regulate it. From what I read ANYTHING can be sold on there.

They will have to just go after people on individual level like they would with cash deals on the street, its a new challenge for the gov.  Buying small amounts of things like weed are probably going to be easier than ever, not worth police time to police.

[pooya87]

So, how does BitTorrent handle illegal stuff? I don't use it, but I would think they don't have child porn being shared.

i think there are sort of moderator that check the torrent that users upload every day

it would be the same here, the escrow/arbiter will check if what you are selling is illegal or not

but then we can fall in a centralization market, which isn't what open bazar is aiming for

the point is that you can't have 100% regulation and decentralization, hell you can not even have 100% regulation in a centralized system...

if you consider loads and loads of illegal copyrighted material that is being downloaded through torrent, you see that they don't really have any control.
in fact the biggest usage of torrent is to download all these copyrighted files.

[Amph]

So, how does BitTorrent handle illegal stuff? I don't use it, but I would think they don't have child porn being shared.

i think there are sort of moderator that check the torrent that users upload every day

it would be the same here, the escrow/arbiter will check if what you are selling is illegal or not

but then we can fall in a centralization market, which isn't what open bazar is aiming for

the point is that you can't have 100% regulation and decentralization, hell you can not even have 100% regulation in a centralized system...

if you consider loads and loads of illegal copyrighted material that is being downloaded through torrent, you see that they don't really have any control.
in fact the biggest usage of torrent is to download all these copyrighted files.

yeah but there some heavy illegal stuff that you will not find there like cp, so someone is actually controlling

[bryant.coleman]

I really don't see how they can regulate it. From what I read ANYTHING can be sold on there.

Anything can be sold, as long as it doesn't clash with the Terms and Conditions. Sellers trying to trade CP.etc will be banned by the admin, and their earnings will be deducted from the wallets. That said, I don't think that OpenBazaar will be online anytime soon. May be they'll start trading in 2017 or 2018. Only by then, these things will become clear.

[NorrisK]

They should employ some sort of moderation indeed. Else they will be the prime target of many law enforcement agencies..

How about the nxt market? Isn't that even more decentralized as the hosting is on the nxt network?

[amiryaqot]

what OB will not decentralized what is mean of that statement OB will not be next Silk Road than we really need a moderated marketplace where any one can moderate us easily than we already have Ebay a well known marketplace, i think will not get succeed if they wouldn't implement the decentralized marketplace there. 

[newcripto]

This is so sad to see that OpenBazaar will have huge failure and concept on what it was getting attention of everyone is finished.I don't think someone will use it if they can not trade anonymously and freely.There are already many popular trading platform which will begin to use Bitcoin and will block easily way of OpenBazaar.OpenBazaar will have success only if it will support anonymous and independent,decentralized system.

[Anony]

So, how does BitTorrent handle illegal stuff? I don't use it, but I would think they don't have child porn being shared.

There is simple thing called common sense and moderation. There are mods who check comments and torrents which contains abusive images, child or extremely ugly fetish porn or sick things like that.
We could have similar system integrated in the OpenBazaar. Just let mods do their work.

The mods are on torrent listing sites; they don't actually moderate seeds and peers using the BitTorrent protocol.

Open Bazaar will grow big and strong before the mainstream media realizes that every one can buy anything on OpenBazaar.
As Bitcoin is an incremental, evolutionary, with new technologies .whole business hinges on the idea that bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are going to take off to the point where the average user is comfortable using them.
It should be user friendly or very familiar so  everyone can use it easily.
https://fortune.com/2015/06/25/openbazaar-not-silk-road/

[albert_mt]

BitBay vs Openbazaar, which will win?

[Amph]

BitBay vs Openbazaar, which will win?

both like ebay and amazon, is good to have competitor, you can maybe something in one that there isn't in another, or a better price for soemthing that isn't in the other market

but i don't like that bitbay, will utilize only bitbay coin for its market