"Avalon" ASIC, announcement & pre-order. pre-order over. project started.

[Syke]

Speed of delivery is of the essense. Don't waste time and money buying power supplies and building fancy cases for it. There's a good chance difficulty could skyrocket before Feb. Every day saved is crucial to profitability.

[crazyates]

Every day saved is crucial to profitability.

Yes and no. Every day you mine at a lower difficulty means you pay it off that much sooner, but 60GH/s @ 1300 is THE BEST speed/$ ratio out there.

[nedbert9]

It's China dude.  You can hire people to assemble and solder boards 12 hours a day 7 days a week for $200 or less a month by the tens of thousands.

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Quite true but I know that China can buy and sell our ass hundreds of times:) It is just a matter of time this to happen. Back to the topic - I do not think that they can hire qualified people for 200 even in China. As far as i know 200 USD workers are something like "freelancers". They are farmers and are coming to the factory on a project base. What they do is farming mostly. I personally do not like the idea my ASIC to be soldered by farmer who had a good sleep a month ago, with eyes semi closed thinking about cows, chickens rise or whatever is left in the farm and so on..what about you? But as i said despite of hardware assembling itself..Their know-how is the bitstream or whatever it is called if such thing exists for ASICS and believe me they WILL NEVER outsource  it. What i mean is that in any case they will have to do some of the work by themselves... Or at least testing ...

 

Pretty humorous.  *** is reportedly installing a 'pick and place' system to do the SMT themselves.


Ok, if you don't have libertarian leanings and do take issue with what's going on with *** right now - think about your purchase decision carefully. 

Even if you are 'locked in' to *** right now, as most are, there are alternatives for future purchases.  All of them from relatively reputable members of the community. 

[hahahafr]

The website is gonna crash under a DDOS attack in exactly 1 day and 17 hours from now.
Get ready for the race.

[crazyates]

The website is gonna crash under a DDOS attack in exactly 1 day and 17 hours from now.
Get ready for the race.

Is that a threat? 

[ngzhang]

It's China dude.  You can hire people to assemble and solder boards 12 hours a day 7 days a week for $200 or less a month by the tens of thousands.

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Quite true but I know that China can buy and sell our ass hundreds of times:) It is just a matter of time this to happen. Back to the topic - I do not think that they can hire qualified people for 200 even in China. As far as i know 200 USD workers are something like "freelancers". They are farmers and are coming to the factory on a project base. What they do is farming mostly. I personally do not like the idea my ASIC to be soldered by farmer who had a good sleep a month ago, with eyes semi closed thinking about cows, chickens rise or whatever is left in the farm and so on..what about you? But as i said despite of hardware assembling itself..Their know-how is the bitstream or whatever it is called if such thing exists for ASICS and believe me they WILL NEVER outsource  it. What i mean is that in any case they will have to do some of the work by themselves... Or at least testing ...

 

Pretty humorous.  *** is reportedly installing a 'pick and place' system to do the SMT themselves.


Ok, if you don't have libertarian leanings and do take issue with what's going on with *** right now - think about your purchase decision carefully. 

Even if you are 'locked in' to *** right now, as most are, there are alternatives for future purchases.  All of them from relatively reputable members of the community. 

yeah, China labor cost is greatly increase these years, $200 is not enough for a quality worker.
you must spend 300$ for him.

and the SMT welder operator's salary is 500$.

[hahahafr]

What are we talking about here? Per month?
That's still unbelievably low for selling ASICs @ $1299 or $1999 per piece.

[ngzhang]

What are we talking about here? Per month?
That's still unbelievably low for selling ASICs @ $1299 or $1999 per piece.

  relax.

[ngzhang]

Important Notice

1, if your order is large than 30 units, please contact " info@avalon-asic.com " immediately, no matter is or isn't contact before. there will be a head start in pre orders for large orders greater than 30.
2, about payment: confirmed accept bitcoins and wire-transfer, and bitcoins will have much higher priorities. credit card is still considering (maybe NOT support by some reason).
3, for Chinese customers only:

国内在预定后，可以通过支付宝直接付款，银行转账，以及淘宝拍下预订商品的方法付款。

[Dexter770221]

... and the SMT welder operator's salary is 500$.

I live in EU. I'm soldering iron operator
...and my salary is not much bigger, 700$

[Grouver (BtcBalance)]

What will the shipping costs for the EU be?
The same crazy $80 amount as at BFL?

[ngzhang]

What will the shipping costs for the EU be?
The same crazy $80 amount as at BFL?

it's 60 USD ... 

[ngzhang]

... and the SMT welder operator's salary is 500$.

I live in EU. I'm soldering iron operator
...and my salary is not much bigger, 700$

please use the "soldering iron man" instead or "soldering iron operator"
...

but, as far as i know, it there such a low salary in EU now? 700USD a month? 

[sbr2004]

What about CE mark? Without it import to EU is a gamble.

[Dexter770221]

700USD a month? 

Yes, 700$/month. At curent exchange rate 3.2PLN/USD. So its not so horrible to live in china I can bet that living costs are smaller there. Here I have to pay 0.75$ for bread.

[luffy]

about Avalon:
only applicable for BTC? not similar coins like ppcoin?
i guess Lancelot can do similar coins (not LTC)

[ngzhang]

about Avalon:
only applicable for BTC? not similar coins like ppcoin?
i guess Lancelot can do similar coins (not LTC)

it's depends on whether this "similar coins" use exactly the same method of calculation.

[markm]

If it works with p2pool you should be able to merged-mine the full array of coins the Massively Merged Mining project mines and even more (there are some it dropped due to their being too resource-intensive, such as geistgeld).

-MarkM-

[libertybuck]

Pretty humorous.  *** is reportedly installing a 'pick and place' system to do the SMT themselves.


Ok, if you don't have libertarian leanings and do take issue with what's going on with *** right now - think about your purchase decision carefully. 

Even if you are 'locked in' to *** right now, as most are, there are alternatives for future purchases.  All of them from relatively reputable members of the community. 

I think the *** you mentioned means "BFL".  Is it ?

[flynn]

but, as far as i know, it there such a low salary in EU now? 700USD a month?  

Here in France, the minimum legal monthly salary is 1118,36 euros (all taxes paid but not IRS) or  7,37 euro per hour.