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June 29, 2015, 10:42:28 PM
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Phase 1. Destroy heteronormative standards and establish equality for all sexuality. Struggle nearing completion in most industrialized nations [sorry Russians]

Phase 2. Destroy the myth of Homo Sapien monogamy and assert science in the realm of human sexuality. Pansexuality / polyamory explodes. Struggle ongoing in most industrialized nations

Phase 3. Smash the myth [social construct] of gender and assert science in that realm. Struggle just began in industrialized nations

Phase 4. Medical science cures all sexually transmitted infections/diseases. Orgies ensue all over the world. Probably a result of nanotech innovation.

Phase 5. Merging of hardware and wetware, next phase of human evolution. Religion fully obsolete as mortality itself has been solved.

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June 29, 2015, 10:45:22 PM
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And what it's gonna be after the end of religion? End of civilization? What is the workld and society you proposing? It doesn't make any sense. Soviet Union refused religion and fell afterwards.

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June 29, 2015, 10:48:19 PM
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And what it's gonna be after the end of religion? End of civilization? What is the workld and society you proposing? It doesn't make any sense.
A whole lot less violent, that's what it'll be. More orgasms = less violence, I guarantee it.

Soviet Union refused religion and fell afterwards.
Weak analogy informal fallacy.

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And what it's gonna be after the end of religion? End of civilization? What is the workld and society you proposing? It doesn't make any sense.
A whole lot less violent, that's what it'll be. More orgasms = less violence, I guarantee it.

Soviet Union refused religion and fell afterwards.
Weak analogy informal fallacy.


What would be the minimum age required to be accepted as a sexual partner in this N.G.O (new global orgy)?



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June 29, 2015, 11:11:00 PM
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Phase 1. Destroy heteronormative standards and establish equality for all sexuality. (Struggle nearing completion in most industrialized nations [sorry Russians])

Phase 2. Destroy the myth of Homo Sapien monogamy and assert science in the realm of human sexuality. Pansexuality / polyamory explodes. (Struggle ongoing in most industrialized nations)

Phase 3. Smash the myth of gender and assert science in that realm. (Struggle just began in industrialized nations)

Phase 4. Medical science cures all sexually transmitted infections/diseases. Orgies ensue all over the world. (Science advancing at steady pace, timeline unknown)

Phase 5. Religion is a bad memory and sad joke from a time before the Commonplace Orgasm and sexual Paradise on Earth. (Civilization's ongoing transformation from superstition to reason)


Correcting your scenario -

Phase 1. Destroy heteronormative standards and establish equality for all sexuality. (Struggle nearing abject failure in Muslim countries and those they emigrate to)

Phase 2. Destroy scientific objectivity, instead inject politically Left's latest mythical and magical beliefs into all human sexuality courses taught to students.  Kids don't buy it, in vain teachers try to have sex with students. Pansexuality / polyamory explodes. (Struggle ongoing in most industrialized nations)

Phase 3. Propaganda, huge amounts of it, says gender is a myth.  Tits, cunts and cocks don't exist.

Phase 4. Medical science fails at increasingly resistant sexually transmitted infections/diseases. Orgies ensue all over the world, propagating said new superbugs

Phase 5. Orgy satiated subhumans discover that Christian religious partners do it better, and being superior organisms, produce superior orgasms.
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June 29, 2015, 11:47:09 PM
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Again. Everything old is new again. Skipping chapter I, II, III... Etc...




History of Orgies in Various Times and Cultures




VIII: Modern and Contemporary Ages. XV - XX centuries.



The Medieval period saw all forms of sexual freedom stamped out. During the early Renaissance, a humanist, Pietro Aretino (1492-1556) brought sexuality into the limelight. He wrote at the beginning of the XVI century sexually explicit works that included lesbianism and orgies (Ragionamenti (Dialogues, 1534–1536). His texts, and others inspired on them, would see several printings during the next three centuries.

Nevertheless, the Renaissance and Reformation (Protestants) did not alter the repressive stance towards sex, Medieval attitudes prevailed. In England and northern Europe, Puritanism and strict protestantism repressed all outward manifestations of joy (as shown above regarding Maypoles). The common people had forgotten the old rites and their orgies.

Some exceptions to the populace’s puritanism can be found among extreme radicals of sects such as the Ranters, whose beliefs were similar to the Bretheren of the Free Spirit: we find group sex, nudity and wife swapping in this sect during the 1650’s, which we can still find, until the early XVIII century in certain parts of England.

It was not until the Restoration of Charles II in England (late XVII century), and the Louis kings in France (XIV and XV) that the nobles in both countries (and other European countries) began to indulge in covertly in orgiastic behavior. In England aristocratic circles at court practiced sexual libertinism and debauchery.

During the XVIII century, among the well-born, we see the figure of the aristocratic rake, a promiscuous character who wastes his (usually inherited) fortune on wine and women. We can mention: Cagliostro, Giacomo Casanova, Marquis de Sade, among other notorious rakes.

Regarding Casanova, he indulged in several menage a trois, and regular group sex (actually a menage a quatre) involving the French ambassador to Venice, and two nuns (C.C.- Caterina Capretta and M.M.) which continues until the ambassador's return to France.

Historical Chronicles tell us of the orgies of Madame Du Barry, king Louis XV’s mistress at Versailles, and of French Queen Marie Antoinette.

Literature reflects these events, such as John Cleland’s Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure (1749), a pornographic narrative, describing lesbianism, voyeurism, experimentation and group sex, in which pairs take turns in having sex before the group.

After the tranquil Romanticism that followed the Napoleonic wars despite the grip that Victorian culture held on the XIX century world, in the US, there was a racy style of literature, which, as literary historian David Reynolds has pointed out, alluded to a wide range of sexual practices, such as " incest, sadomasochism, homosexuality, group sex, miscegenation, child sex, [and] mass orgies" indicating that there was a market willing at least to read about these practices.

At that time (1840s and 50s), American writer George Thompson’s described in one of his novels "… a dinner party served by naked adolescents that turns into an orgy between the teenagers and the adult guests, a scene he claims has actually taken place in New York".

In 1856, George Akarman published in New York a weekly sexual magazine named " Venus’ Miscellany" It included supposed correspondence between readers, one who confesses being " an avid ’free-lover,’ a reference to the free love movement of the 1850s, a middle-class, bohemian cause that opposed marriage and supported sexual relationships rooted in ’passional attraction’ rather than law....[my husband and I] are both pleasurists. He enjoys whom he pleases. Perhaps I sometimes wander myself.’"

They pursue a menage a trois with their female neighbor, Martha, every Saturday night, there are also descriptions of lesbianism. The New York Times commented on the police raid on Akarman’s magazine: “It is a disgraceful fact, that out of 3,300 subscribers, nearly one half were females.

We finally reach the XX century, where a more enlightened (but not less bestial world - witness the bloody World Wars I and II) opened its minds to enjoyment and pleasure, trying to shed the tight corset of religion and social traditions.

During the second half of the century, we see a slackening of sexual taboos in most societies around the world, an improvement of women’s status and freedom, a rebirth in sexual freedom (free-sex, the pill, swinging lifestyle, gays and their coming out), and also a growing concern due to the terrible epidemic of HIV Aids, and the increased fundamentalism in several religions that openly attack these positive changes.

This interest in orgies and group sex is shown in the Janus Report48 that said that in the US, 8% of women 14 % of men had engaged in "group sex" that is nearly one person out of every eight, 11% of adults is quite a significant figure.


http://godrules.net/articles/history-orgies.htm


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Until we mate with aliens (from outer space) we've been playing with the tools between our legs since the beginning of time... Orgy of sex, then orgy of food, then orgy of being bored to death, then orgy of killing each other.


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June 30, 2015, 02:24:30 AM
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And what it's gonna be after the end of religion? End of civilization? What is the workld and society you proposing? It doesn't make any sense.
A whole lot less violent, that's what it'll be. More orgasms = less violence, I guarantee it.

Soviet Union refused religion and fell afterwards.
Weak analogy informal fallacy.

People that refused religion have killed more people than all religions have Roll Eyes so I think your the one with the fallacy dumbass.
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June 30, 2015, 02:34:34 AM
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Phase 1. Destroy heteronormative standards and establish equality for all sexuality. (Struggle nearing completion in most industrialized nations [sorry Russians])

A homo will be more safe in Russia, then he is in Africa, China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Oceania (excluding Australia and New Zealand), and Indonesia. Russia doesn't give out death penalty for sodomy, unlike the industrialized nations such as the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Sudan, and Egypt.
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June 30, 2015, 02:39:52 AM
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And what it's gonna be after the end of religion? End of civilization? What is the workld and society you proposing? It doesn't make any sense.
A whole lot less violent, that's what it'll be. More orgasms = less violence, I guarantee it.

Soviet Union refused religion and fell afterwards.
Weak analogy informal fallacy.

People that refused religion have killed more people than all religions have Roll Eyes so I think your the one with the fallacy dumbass.

The fallacy, my dear sir, is the basic idea of comparing murders based on religion, against those committed devoid of such a basis.  

You're presuming atheist atrocities "out-perform" atrocities based on religion, when the simple fact is an atrocity needs neither basis - instead, only that of the twisted (or 'anti-social', if such fallacious logic still rules this discussion) individual's (and those he/she have brainwashed) personal beliefs to cause such suffering.

Religion, sex, death, genocide, etc. etc. etc. - ALL CIRCUMSTANTIAL.  No one has any right whatsoever placing blame on a reason that can be used universally.


Investing some time in reading the book, 'A Brief History of the Paradox', may serve many here as good reference material when dealing with similarly pointless banter.
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June 30, 2015, 03:26:47 AM
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Phase 1. Destroy heteronormative standards and establish equality for all sexuality. (Struggle nearing completion in most industrialized nations [sorry Russians])

A homo will be more safe in Russia, then he is in Africa, China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Oceania (excluding Australia and New Zealand), and Indonesia. Russia doesn't give out death penalty for sodomy, unlike the industrialized nations such as the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Sudan, and Egypt.
All true, but the middle east (including Pakistan) is currently about 400 years behind the western world (and Russia) in terms of social progress, so I leave them out. I call out Russia because they don't have the valid excuse of being hyper-religious nutjobs there.

China is a due for another revolution any time now, and I think they will come out very progressive, even by western standards, after this next one.

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Phase 1. Destroy heteronormative standards and establish equality for all sexuality. (Struggle nearing completion in most industrialized nations [sorry Russians])

A homo will be more safe in Russia, then he is in Africa, China, India, Pakistan, Middle East, Oceania (excluding Australia and New Zealand), and Indonesia. Russia doesn't give out death penalty for sodomy, unlike the industrialized nations such as the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Sudan, and Egypt.
All true, but the middle east (including Pakistan) is currently about 400 years behind the western world (and Russia) in terms of social progress, so I leave them out. I call out Russia because they don't have the valid excuse of being hyper-religious nutjobs there.

China is a due for another revolution any time now, and I think they will come out very progressive, even by western standards, after this next one.
Um, actually Russia is high on Orthodox churchie stuff, and also Muslim.  And China is not due for another revolution in the least.
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"Democracies are the blossoming of the aloe, the sudden squandering of the vital force which has accumulated in the long years when it was contented to be healthy and did not aspire after a vain display. The aloe is glorious for a single season. It progresses as it never progressed before. It admires its own excellence, looks back with pity on its earlier and humbler condition, which it attributes only to the unjust restraints in which it was held. It conceives that it has discovered the true secret of being 'beautiful for ever,' and in the midst of the discovery it dies."

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Too bad after your wanton destruction of social structures in #1 and #2, #3 is impossible, because science has already proven gender is not just a social construct. You claim to have the backing of science, but you just use the word science as a cudgel to beat your destructive socialist ideals into people while having no actual scientific data to support your harebrained theories. It is funny how you claim to stand on the side of protecting people's freedom to be free with their own sexuality, but you at the same time have declared war on the sexual identities of regular people who are perfectly comfortable with their own gender. Not at all hypocritical.

In short you are promoting the destruction of societal structures millions rely upon in order to promote your ideals which have little to no scientific reasoning behind them. Good ideas supplant the bad ideas. The fact that you have to actively destroy the work of others shows to me very clearly how misguided and dangerous your socialist poison is. What gives you the right to destroy the gender norms of others?




Is being gay a choice? Most people would say no. If being gay is at least partly result of biology, why is it that other gender roles are not? Is this just a simple excuse to destroy the gender identities of gender normal people in the name of "tolerance"?
http://genetics.thetech.org/ask-a-geneticist/homosexuality

The Gender Equality Paradox
(In Norway, arguably considered one of the most "progressive" countries as far as "gender equality" have all kinds of programs to give people freedom to join workplaces often dominated by the opposite sex. The results showed even more segregation of gender when people had more choice, clearly indicating that people choose these jobs, not that they are discriminated against or excluded.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5LRdW8xw70
https://qmro.qmul.ac.uk/jspui/handle/123456789/2349

Nature v Nurture (innate gender roles in primates)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mvZ4EbPbME

Sex differences in rhesus monkey toy preferences parallel those of (human) children
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2583786/

Evolutionary Psychology and the challenge of adaptive explanation.
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/myl/ldc/GrayEP.pdf



Real science says you are wrong, but feel free to shit all over society, tearing it apart, then just slap a sticker on it that says "Science". Ever notice how if you ever dare to bring up evolutionary biology to some one who self identifies as a "feminist" they tend to lose their shit pretty quickly and start throwing accusations of sexism at you? I wonder why that is... could it be that biology totally contradicts the bullshit narrative that these groups are trying to force upon the rest of the world under the guise of tolerance?

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Psalm 2

1 Why do the nations conspire and the peoples plot in vain?
2 The kings of the earth take their stand and the rulers gather together against the LORD and against his Anointed One.
3 “Let us break their chains,” they say, “and throw off their fetters.”

4 The One enthroned in heaven laughs; the Lord scoffs at them.
5 Then he rebukes them in his anger and terrifies them in his wrath, saying,
6 “I have installed my King on Zion, my holy hill.”

7 I will proclaim the decree of the LORD: He said to me, “You are my Son; today I have become your Father.
8 Ask of me, and I will make the nations your inheritance, the ends of the earth your possession.
9 You will rule them with an iron scepter; you will dash them to pieces like pottery.”

10 Therefore, you kings, be wise; be warned, you rulers of the earth.
11 Serve the LORD with fear and rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry and you be destroyed in your way, for his wrath can flare up in a moment. Blessed are all who take refuge in him.


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I call out Russia because they don't have the valid excuse of being hyper-religious nutjobs there.

Russians oppose homosexuality due to cultural reasons, and not because of religious reasons. Less than half of the Russians are religious. Historically, Russia was opposed to sodomy. During the Imperial period, gays were sentenced to death or were sent to mental asylums. When the Communists came to power, they followed the same policy, by making homosexuality a crime punishable by death. Compared to those times, homosexuals are very much better off now in Russia.
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Too bad after your wanton destruction of social structures in #1 and #2, #3 is impossible, because science has already proven gender is not just a social construct.
Actually, modern Science has understood gender to be a social construct since sexologist John Money's pioneering work on sex and gender distinction in 1955.

Of course, with all the racism, sexism, Islamophobia, and homophobia on this forum, it's clear half the fuckwits here are operating as if we're still in the late 40's.

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Too bad after your wanton destruction of social structures in #1 and #2, #3 is impossible, because science has already proven gender is not just a social construct.
Actually, modern Science has understood gender to be a social construct since sexologist John Money's pioneering work on sex and gender distinction in 1955.

Of course, with all the racism, sexism, Islamophobia, and homophobia on this forum, it's clear half the fuckwits on this forum are operating as if we're still in the late 40's.
Your attitude reminds me of the "progressive mentality" of "scientific liberals around 1900-1920, which led to the "modern Science understanding" promoting Eugenics.
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Too bad after your wanton destruction of social structures in #1 and #2, #3 is impossible, because science has already proven gender is not just a social construct.
Actually, modern Science has understood gender to be a social construct since sexologist John Money's pioneering work on sex and gender distinction in 1955.

Of course, with all the racism, sexism, Islamophobia, and homophobia on this forum, it's clear half the fuckwits on this forum are operating as if we're still in the late 40's.


What would be the minimum age required to be accepted as a sexual partner in this N.G.O (new global orgy)?


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While it's true that human beings generally are polygamous sexually(Yes, arousal to others other than your partner and the desire to have sex with others adds to this), I don't believe "sex will kill god". The end of religion based primarily on faith without conclusive evidence(99% of all religions out there) would likely occur at the spark of something absolutely, astoundingly, revolutionary such as the creation of a "human-level" artifical intelligence and/or more.

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While it's true that human beings generally are polygamous sexually, I don't believe "sex will kill god". The end of religion based primarily on faith without conclusive evidence(99% of all religions out there) would likely occur at the spark of something absolutely, astoundingly, revolutionary such as the creation of a "human-level" artifical intelligence and/or more.


And then this new A.I. will be worshiped by people like the OP...


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