The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God

[BADecker]

Hey, folks, do you think he's really serious?   

Definitely not.

Now you are trying to use the religion of The Force to prove that science is not religion or something.

The two divisions of what is known as science among lay people are, science fact, and science fiction. The problem is that lay people don't know where the division lies. And a lot of scientists fall in the category of lay people regarding areas of science that do not fall within their pet science branch.

Since real science fiction falls outside of the two areas of science expressed above, science is a religion because of all the lay people that believe it to be real when in reality it contains lots of theory that has not been proven. People believe much of science, science which is not fact. Thus, science is religion.

Thank you for drawing us to the Yoda religion to help me show what I mean.

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[Beliathon]

Since real science fiction falls outside of the two areas of science expressed above, science is a religion because of all the lay people that believe it to be real when in reality it contains lots of theory that has not been proven. People believe much of science, science which is not fact. Thus, science is religion.

sci·ence
ˈsīəns/

the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

re·li·gion
rəˈlijən/

the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

[TECSHARE]

The video demonstrates that the originator of your gender theories tested them on a boy who had his penis accidentally burnt off during circumcision. He decided it was a good idea to raise him as a girl, and the result was he blew his brains out, and his twin brother ODed on antidepressants. This is direct evidence

You're watching a video about it after the event occurred, it is indirect anecdotal third-hand evidence.

Um, no. Way to not even watch the video and ignore testimony FROM THE OWN BOYS MOUTH DIRECTLY before he killed himeslf. But keep telling yourself you have nothing to learn, because hey, you know it all already right? What could anyone have to teach you? Whatever it takes to make excuses to not address your contradictory ideologies.

Lets try one more time and pretend like you are not intellectually dishonest and actively deceiving yourself and everyone else here.

Dr. Money And The Boy With No Penis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUTcwqR4Q4Y

[practicaldreamer]

Dr. Money And The Boy With No Penis ....

... brought to you by the director of  "Dr. Penetration and the Girl with Two Quims"

[TECSHARE]

Dr. Money And The Boy With No Penis ....

... brought to you by the director of  "Dr. Penetration and the Girl with Two Quims"

Why is it that female genital mutilation is a travesty, but a infant boy getting his penis burnt off is a funny joke?

[practicaldreamer]

Dr. Money And The Boy With No Penis ....

... brought to you by the director of  "Dr. Penetration and the Girl with Two Quims"

Why is it that .. a infant boy getting his penis burnt off is a funny joke?

It isn't - but with a title like "Dr Money and the Boy with no Penis" the makers of this particular documentary knew little of journalistic diplomacy and sensitive subtlety - but a lot about tabloid sensationalism.

[Beliathon]

the makers of this particular documentary knew little of journalistic diplomacy and sensitive subtlety - but a lot about tabloid sensationalism.

The fact that Tecshare can't see any distinction between those two is a strong indication of low intellectual acuity.

[TECSHARE]

the makers of this particular documentary knew little of journalistic diplomacy and sensitive subtlety - but a lot about tabloid sensationalism.

The fact that Tecshare can't see any distinction between those two is a strong indication of low intellectual acuity.

Sensationalism? Did you even bother to watch it? I'm sure you didn't. You are too busy judging it by its title, which is not at all sensational. It has the word penis in the title, so what.. are you in grade school? I think the title was rather a matter of fact and straight forward.



As far as Beliathon, you will seize any opportunity to not engage in a debate, because you know you have no scientific basis for your argument, only ideological reasoning. You have yet to present a scientific study backing up your claims about gender identity having no biological basis, and only something society conditions people into.

That was a nice ad hominem attack again BTW. I find some one with nothing but personal attacks and no facts is an even greater sign of "low intellectual acuity". BTW, being pedantic doesn't make anyone think you are smarter sorry.



Again, do you care to address the lives that were destroyed because of this imposed gender reassignment?

Dr. Money And The Boy With No Penis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUTcwqR4Q4Y

Of course you won't actually watch this because your ideology takes precedence over people committing suicide because of the trauma of non-consensual gender reassignment. Ideology always comes first with social justice warriors, even before lives. Because you wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but fuck those people who are killing themselves because of your failed and unproven ideological belief system.

[Beliathon]

As far as Beliathon, you will seize any opportunity to not engage in a debate, because you know you have no scientific basis for your argument, only ideological reasoning.

Spoiler: To every non-theist person reading this thread for the rest of eternity, every one of my posts here has absolutely wrecked whatever weakass theist bullshit you've been spouting.

That I have decided to stop responding to most of your bullshit does not in any way change the above reality.

[BADecker]

As far as Beliathon, you will seize any opportunity to not engage in a debate, because you know you have no scientific basis for your argument, only ideological reasoning.

Spoiler: To every non-theist person reading this thread for the rest of eternity, every one of my posts here has absolutely wrecked whatever weakass theist bullshit you've been spouting.

That I have decided to stop responding to most of your bullshit does not in any way change the above reality.

Oh give it up! The closest thing you have done to despoiling theist attitudes is to say that you have wrecked theist stuff. Some day you might attempt to come up with a little evidence that God doesn't exist that can overcome the three portals to gigantic loads of evidence in favor of the existence of God listed at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395. But until then, we all understand why you are really responding less or not at all. You ain't got nuthin' that comes close to standing up to reality.

 

[MakingMoneyHoney]

Again, do you care to address the lives that were destroyed because of this imposed gender reassignment?

Dr. Money And The Boy With No Penis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUTcwqR4Q4Y

Of course you won't actually watch this because your ideology takes precedence over people committing suicide because of the trauma of non-consensual gender reassignment. Ideology always comes first with social justice warriors, even before lives. Because you wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but fuck those people who are killing themselves because of your failed and unproven ideological belief system.

Just watched the video. What a sad, depressing, and messed up situation, ruining everyone in the family's lives and even more people's too. I'm glad he wanted to speak up and did in 2000 (apparently '97 based on the wiki?).

[TECSHARE]

As far as Beliathon, you will seize any opportunity to not engage in a debate, because you know you have no scientific basis for your argument, only ideological reasoning.

Spoiler: To every non-theist person reading this thread for the rest of eternity, every one of my posts here has absolutely wrecked whatever weakass theist bullshit you've been spouting.

That I have decided to stop responding to most of your bullshit does not in any way change the above reality.

I at NO POINT used theist arguments to support any of my statements. I challenge you to back up this claim by quoting me using theist arguments.

This is just another pathetic attempt by you to not have to address the failed ideologies you spout by claiming I am just some religious nut job. I am demanding scientific studies from you, not quoting bible passages. You are so deep in your bias and religious hatred you can't even see past your own bullshit any more.


Again, do you care to address the lives that were destroyed because of this imposed gender reassignment?

Dr. Money And The Boy With No Penis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUTcwqR4Q4Y

[Beliathon]

As far as Beliathon, you will seize any opportunity to not engage in a debate, because you know you have no scientific basis for your argument, only ideological reasoning.

Spoiler: To every non-theist person reading this thread for the rest of eternity, every one of my posts here has absolutely wrecked whatever weakass theist bullshit you've been spouting.

That I have decided to stop responding to most of your bullshit does not in any way change the above reality.

Oh give it up!

I can no more give up my acuity than I can my sight or smell.

[TECSHARE]

As far as Beliathon, you will seize any opportunity to not engage in a debate, because you know you have no scientific basis for your argument, only ideological reasoning.

Spoiler: To every non-theist person reading this thread for the rest of eternity, every one of my posts here has absolutely wrecked whatever weakass theist bullshit you've been spouting.

That I have decided to stop responding to most of your bullshit does not in any way change the above reality.

Oh give it up!

I can no more give up my acuity than I can my sight or smell.

Here you are again taking the opportunity for an easy comeback to maintain the illusion you have an argument, and refusing to respond to a criticism you have no answer for. I ask you again to produce scientific evidence to back up your position that gender identity is 100% a result of societal conditioning and not at all caused by biology.

Again, do you care to address the lives that were destroyed because of this imposed gender reassignment?

Dr. Money And The Boy With No Penis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUTcwqR4Q4Y

[Beliathon]

I ask you again to produce scientific evidence to back up your position that gender identity is 100% a result of societal conditioning and not at all caused by biology.

There is such a wealth of evidence presented in Sex at Dawn, that until you read it you are woefully unprepared to even have this debate. This is the most important work on human sexuality in at least half a century (since Kinsey).

[TECSHARE]

I ask you again to produce scientific evidence to back up your position that gender identity is 100% a result of societal conditioning and not at all caused by biology.

There is such a wealth of evidence presented in Sex at Dawn, that until you read it you are woefully unprepared to even have this debate. This is the most important work on human sexuality in at least half a century (since Kinsey).

If there is such a wealth of evidence contained in your book, then you should have no problem sourcing the studies it is based on.


Again, do you care to address the lives that were destroyed because of this imposed gender reassignment?

Dr. Money And The Boy With No Penis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUTcwqR4Q4Y

[celestio]

I ask you again to produce scientific evidence to back up your position that gender identity is 100% a result of societal conditioning and not at all caused by biology.

There is such a wealth of evidence presented in Sex at Dawn, that until you read it you are woefully unprepared to even have this debate. This is the most important work on human sexuality in at least half a century (since Kinsey).

If there is such a wealth of evidence contained in your book, then you should have no problem sourcing the studies it is based on.


Again, do you care to address the lives that were destroyed because of this imposed gender reassignment?

Dr. Money And The Boy With No Penis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUTcwqR4Q4Y

Why one youtube video. Nice source TECHSHAE/s. The amount of transgender(before surgery, so your little youtube video has no basis) people below age 20 who attempt suicide is 50% according to http://www.yspp.org/about_suicide/statistics.htm

Honestly, you're coming off a troll akin to BADecker.

[Beliathon]

Honestly, you're coming off a troll akin to BADecker.

If you press them for truth long enough in debate, every theist becomes a troll sooner or later. There's no other way, these are men of superstition. They're certainly not going to alter their worldview when presented with compelling evidence, because that would make them men of reason, and atheists.

If there is such a wealth of evidence contained in your book, then you should have no problem sourcing the studies it is based on.

So giving you the name of the book isn't enough, now I'm expected to literally read the fucking book for you?



I've read dozens of your books, theists, why can you not in turn read one of mine?

Is this some strange theist logic wherein it's preferable to have reality simplified and spoonfed to you by some intermediary messeng... Ooohhhhh.



Just grow up and fucking read it.

[PenguinFire]

In the past 2 or 3 months this subforum (Politics and Society) has gone to crap with content like this.  It is mostly threads on far end religious nut-jobs and bigots.  They seem to be mostly extremists.  But whatever I guess; we just need to look past them.

 

[BADecker]

Just grow up and fucking read it.

Might be able to take time off to read it, if I could stop laughing. I mean, the title. Sex at Dawn wouldn't be so bad. Lots of folks have sex at dawn. I mean, sometimes it is more fun at dawn. Sometimes it stimulates you for work better than 2 or 3 cups of coffee. That's not the funny part.

The funny part lies in the little words between the big "Sex at Dawn" words: The Prehistoric Origins of Modern Sexuality.

It's, like, prehistoric! We weren't there. We aren't there now. We don't have a time viewer. What we have is a pile of questions about the times before written history. And here somebody comes along and tries to tell us about things that happened back in a time when nobody knows.

I'm not saying that the book isn't full of all kinds of factual, interesting, practical information. I simply don't know. But there are a million books out there to read. And, there are almost that many science fiction books out there.

Again, I am not saying that this book is science fiction. But the title! The least they could have done is given it a title that sounded a bit less like science fiction, so that somebody who was serious could feel that the book might contain something worthwhile reading.

I like science fiction, even though the greater foundational premise of most science fiction from the last 100 years or so, is completely fictional just like the sci-fi itself. Nobody knows that the foundational premise of sci-fi called evolution is true. Yet most of these books build their fictional stories on the idea that evolution is true, even though the particular story itself is fictional.

So, now we get a book that, from the title of it, sounds like it probably is based on the fictional idea of evolution. The title makes it sound like something that pseudo-scientist, sci-fi writers would write.

Ain't got time. Not interested in this kind of sci-fi. Lots of serious, factual books to read. Lots of sci-fi books more to my liking to read. Life's too short.