The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God

[BADecker]

but my point was there are lots of legitimate reasons to question Bitcoin because of the obfuscation of its source (therefore nullifying his example).

This person doesn't understand bitcoin. Bitcoin is open-source transparent mathematics. There is no obfuscation, because the source is irrelevant. That's one of the most fundamental differences between Bitcoin and fiat! This is basic whitepaper shit - Bitcoin 101 - how the fuck could you be a legendary member and not know this? Did you buy that account? What a disgrace. That tears it man, you're going back on the ignore list for awhile.

Newtonian physics would have gotten us to the moon whether or not we knew who Newton was. Just as Bitcoin will get us to the moon whether or not we ever find out who Satoshi Nakamoto is/was.

There you go again adopting my argument again as if it is your own then pretending I disagree with it. Your "debating skills" are pathetic and rely on a series of parlor tricks and emotional appeals.

That's precisely what political science is all about... the thing that Beliathon is doing. In the face of any and all obstacles, continue to shout, "I'm right, I'm right, I'm right; you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong," even if it doesn't make any sense.

[Beliathon]

Seriously though guys, I'm right. Although I do suspect some form of quasi-religion will survive into the next century, perhaps something along the lines of a Zen-Gnostic Church of the Sacred Orgasm. This organization would embrace everything that traditional religions reject, above all the eternal self-evident truth of embodied experience.

“Ignorance is king. Many would not profit by his abdication. Many enrich themselves by means of his dark monarchy. They are his Court, and in his name they defraud and govern, enrich themselves and perpetuate their power. Even literacy they fear, for the written word is another channel of communication that might cause their enemies to become united. Their weapons are keen-honed, and they use them with skill. They will press the battle upon the world when their interests are threatened, and the violence which follows will last until the structure of society as it now exists is leveled to rubble, and a new society emerges. I am sorry. But that is how I see it.”
― Walter M. Miller Jr., A Canticle for Leibowitz

[J. J. Phillips]

Seriously though guys, I'm right.

Well, you're certainly not right about Hitler being a capitalist, but I guess I already proved that.

I think belief in a god is irrational, but I'd be surprised if humans start becoming rational. Rationality isn't human nature. Many people who give up a belief in god simply replace the hole in their life with The State.

Specifically regarding sexuality, it's easy to imagine combining sexual permissiveness with a religion. Just because old religions concentrated on controlling sexuality doesn't mean new ones must.

[J. J. Phillips]

Too bad after your wanton destruction of social structures in #1 and #2, #3 is impossible, because science has already proven gender is not just a social construct.

Actually, modern Science has understood gender to be a social construct since sexologist John Money's pioneering work on sex and gender distinction in 1955.

Of course, with all the racism, sexism, Islamophobia, and homophobia on this forum, it's clear half the fuckwits here are operating as if we're still in the late 40's.

People who want to be informed should read about the following case overseen by John Money:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

David Peter Reimer (August 22, 1965 – May 5, 2004) was a Canadian man born biologically male but raised female following medical advice and intervention after his penis was accidentally destroyed during a botched circumcision in infancy.[1]

Psychologist John Money oversaw the case and reported the reassignment as successful and as evidence that gender identity is primarily learned. Academic sexologist Milton Diamond later reported that Reimer failed to identify as female since the age of 9 to 11,[2] and transitioned to living as a male at age 15. Well known in medical circles for years anonymously as the "John/Joan" case, Reimer later went public with his story to help discourage similar medical practices. He later committed suicide after suffering years of severe depression, financial instability, and a troubled marriage.

John Money lied about this case to support the conclusion he wanted to reach. Beliathon sees John Money's research as a reliable source of knowledge.

John Money lied about this case to support the conclusion he wanted to reach. Beliathon sees John Money's research as a reliable source of knowledge.

John Money lied about this case to support the conclusion he wanted to reach. Beliathon sees John Money's research as a reliable source of knowledge.

[J. J. Phillips]

More about David Reimer's case and John Money's deception.

This was later expanded into a full-length book As Nature Made Him: The Boy Who Was Raised as a Girl, in which Colapinto described how—contrary to Money's reports—when living as Brenda, Reimer did not identify as a girl. He was ostracized and bullied by peers, and neither frilly dresses (which he was forced to wear during frigid Winnipeg winters)[10] nor female hormones made him feel female. By the age of 13, Reimer was experiencing suicidal depression, and he told his parents he would take his own life if they made him see John Money again. In 1980, Reimer's parents told him the truth about his gender reassignment, following advice from Reimer's endocrinologist and psychiatrist. At 14, having been informed of his past by his father, Reimer decided to assume a male gender identity, calling himself David. By 1987, Reimer had undergone treatment to reverse the reassignment, including testosterone injections, a double mastectomy, and two phalloplasty operations. On September 22, 1990, he married Jane Fontaine and became a stepfather to her three children.

If Beliathon knows enough to source John Money, then it's hard to believe he doesn't know about this case. Again, I think Beliathon is just a character someone is using to troll. But this "gender is a social construct" lie is dangerous, far more dangerous than believing in mythical gods.

[g1974ak]

Sex and God are not in war with each other. So I don't see why the first will kill the second. Without sex there it will not be humanity and without humanity there it will be no sense to speak about God. Who will speak? and who will pray. The rocks or the water?

[Beliathon]

Sex and God are not in war with each other. So I don't see why the first will kill the second.

Embodied experience (especially sexual pleasure) is at war with church dogma (pleasure taints the soul; pain purifies the soul), and God is losing badly here in the USA.

I think belief in a god is irrational, but I'd be surprised if humans start becoming rational.

Prepare your mind for surprise.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

I am so glad to see this, after hearing about what nuns went through. Phew. lol

[J. J. Phillips]

I think belief in a god is irrational, but I'd be surprised if humans start becoming rational.

Prepare your mind for surprise.

But most of them replace their "God" with "The State." They don't become more rational. They simply convert to a different faith.

[BADecker]

This is interesting. Religious importance declines in individuals kinda like life does. Thanks, Beliathon.

[Beliathon]

Contemplate why biblical angels don't have genitals. What kind of person forsakes sexual pleasure their entire life, or sits around writing books about the demands of their imaginary friends? A book about how pleasure taints the soul and pain purifies the soul? A book obsessed with death and an imagined afterlife? What kind of people wrote this?

Most of the ancient church men from the bronze age when the bible was written had to have been severe autists.



Christianity is an autistic cult of tragic needless suffering. Sexual pleasure is the obvious cure for all this madness.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

Contemplate why biblical angels don't have genitals. What kind of person forsakes sexual pleasure their entire life, or sits around writing books about the demands of their imaginary friends? A book about how pleasure taints the soul and pain purifies the soul? A book obsessed with death and an imagined afterlife? What kind of people wrote this?

Most of the ancient church men from the bronze age when the bible was written had to have been severe autists.

Christianity is an autistic cult of tragic needless suffering. Sexual pleasure is the obvious cure for all this madness.

If you listened to the ex-nun's testimony, you might have some of this figured out. It looks like the Catholic church are the ones responsible for the chastity vows, and the flagellation. From looking into it, it clearly looks like the pope could be the anti-christ. I heard even Bill Maher, an atheist, likes the pope. (The anti-christ is supposed to be loved by a lot of people, not just Christians.)

Edit: Just going to point out all the flagellation and chastity vows are not biblical. You seem to have a rightful hate of some of Catholicism's "habits", but to paint all Christians under that would be wrong. Those aren't biblical.

"Contemplate why biblical angels don't have genitals."

You do know the bible talks about Fallen Angels having sex with human women, right? (or at the very least having children with them)

[BADecker]

How utterly infantile you present yourself.

Contemplate why biblical angels don't have genitals.

You know that angels don't have genitals?

The only general knowledge of the make-up of the angels that we have comes from the Bible. The only place where the Bible might interpret angels doing anything other than being messengers or warriors is Genesis 6, where it might have been angels that had offspring with women. No genitals?

What kind of person forsakes sexual pleasure their entire life, or sits around writing books about the demands of their imaginary friends?

Outside of those who are physically unable to partake of sex, perhaps it is those who recognize that there is more to life than sitting around contemplating sex all the time.

If you look through the science fiction books, you can find many descriptions of imaginary beings who are completely of a different shape and form than people. Anybody or anything that is capable of making people, certainly could make them to get enjoyment in any number of ways outside of sex. Since this is the case, why make sex the point where the greatest pleasure is found? Because the Maker of humanity knew that you would want the pleasure, and by giving you the pleasure, he gets the thing that He wants... a larger population.

Don't you just love to succumb to the Maker's "deceptivity" in making you want more sex? Now that you are thwarting Him by inventing ways of gaining sex pleasure, while keeping yourself from producing offspring (contraceptives), what more need does He have of you, since you are setting yourself against Him?

Would people ever get together to procreate if there wasn't some form of pleasure or benefit involved?

A book about how pleasure taints the soul and pain purifies the soul? A book obsessed with death and an imagined afterlife? What kind of people wrote this?

Sounds like a book of life. Sounds like a book of reality. Sounds like a book of warning perhaps. Sounds like a book that might be pointing people to the way out of everlasting death.

Most of the ancient church men from the bronze age when the bible was written had to have been severe autists.

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Christianity is an autistic cult of tragic needless suffering. Sexual pleasure is the obvious cure for all this madness.

Actually, they were extreme realists. Sexual pleasure is simply the way to begin a life of reality... the joys of family, along with the tragedies we bring on ourselves.

[BADecker]

Contemplate why biblical angels don't have genitals. What kind of person forsakes sexual pleasure their entire life, or sits around writing books about the demands of their imaginary friends? A book about how pleasure taints the soul and pain purifies the soul? A book obsessed with death and an imagined afterlife? What kind of people wrote this?

Most of the ancient church men from the bronze age when the bible was written had to have been severe autists.

Christianity is an autistic cult of tragic needless suffering. Sexual pleasure is the obvious cure for all this madness.

If you listened to the ex-nun's testimony, you might have some of this figured out. It looks like the Catholic church are the ones responsible for the chastity vows, and the flagellation. From looking into it, it clearly looks like the pope could be the anti-christ. I heard even Bill Maher, an atheist, likes the pope. (The anti-christ is supposed to be loved by a lot of people, not just Christians.)

"Contemplate why biblical angels don't have genitals."

You do know the bible talks about Fallen Angels having sex with human women, right? (or at the very least having children with them)

Beliathon is doing the only thing he can do. He is being the best political scientist he can be, just like the devil. They both do it by setting their goals in front of themselves, and then, never giving up and never giving in, even when all the evidence is completely against them.

There is a chance for Beliathon. There is time for him to change and be save. Unlike the devil, Beliathon has a chance to gain eternal life with us.

[J. J. Phillips]

Contemplate why biblical angels don't have genitals.

You know that angels don't have genitals?

I think John Money said angels don't have genitals, so it must be true.

[BADecker]

Contemplate why biblical angels don't have genitals.

You know that angels don't have genitals?

I think John Money said angels don't have genitals, so it must be true.

Oh! Sorry! I must have been mistaken, then.   

[Beliathon]

But also:



Because the survival of this and all other species on Earth hinges on our ability to shift the culture totally away from violence and toward pleasure. Superstition could very well bring an extinction event upon us, if rationality fails to assert itself in time. We need everyone having two to five good orgasms per day before it's too late. The clock is ticking down until the hour of the handheld Armageddon weapon. Two thousand years ago no one could have imagined a weapon like a machine gun, capable of cutting down hundreds of men in seconds. This century, technology will change more than it did from 0 to 2000 AD, if we don't wipe ourselves out.  Twenty years in the information age reshapes our civilization more wholly than two hundred years of industrial revolution.

Cum with me and embrace sexual paradise on earth, because conquering all potential violence with overwhelming pleasure is the only way your grandchildren survive a world in which a single madman can end all life in a moment of rage.

Profit loves ignorance and despises knowledge.
The twin evils of capitalism (economic fundamentalism) and superstition must be destroyed if we are to have any chance here. They are many who would bring all humanity down with them in flames if the alternative is losing their power. They name themselves men of business, and in doing so conceal their violence.

“Ignorance is king. Many would not profit by his abdication. Many enrich themselves by means of his dark monarchy. They are his Court, and in his name they defraud and govern, enrich themselves and perpetuate their power. Even literacy they fear, for the written word is another channel of communication that might cause their enemies to become united. Their weapons are keen-honed, and they use them with skill. They will press the battle upon the world when their interests are threatened, and the violence which follows will last until the structure of society as it now exists is leveled to rubble, and a new society emerges. I am sorry. But that is how I see it.”
― Walter M. Miller Jr., A Canticle for Leibowitz

[MakingMoneyHoney]

Because the survival of this and all other species on Earth hinges on our ability to shift culture to the point where everyone is having 2-5 good orgasms per day before we reach a level of technology where a single madman can end all life in a moment of grief.

Superstition could very well bring an extinction event upon us, if rationality fails to assert itself in time. Two thousand years ago no one could have imagined a weapon like a machine gun, capable of cutting down hundreds of men in seconds. This century, technology will change more than it did from 0 to 2000 AD, if we don't wipe ourselves out. Twenty years in the information age reshapes our civilization more wholly than two hundred years of industrial revolution. I'll let that sink in.

Cum with me and embrace sexual paradise on earth, because it's the only way your grandchildren survive.

The survival on this planet with people turning from God, will be nil.

Can you make the dead fish come back to life? The 50% of all wildlife come back to life? Where are the bees?

How about turning back the clock so Fukishima didn't continue to spill and get worse this year? I guess we know why there was such a huge drop is in the fish population compared to the other wildlife.

Humanity is ruining the planet and you think fornicating every which way will save you?

[BADecker]

But also:



Because the survival of this and all other species on Earth hinges on our ability to shift the culture totally away from violence and toward pleasure. Superstition could very well bring an extinction event upon us, if rationality fails to assert itself in time. We need everyone having 2-5 good orgasms per day before it's too late. The clock is ticking down until the hour of the handheld Armageddon weapon. Two thousand years ago no one could have imagined a weapon like a machine gun, capable of cutting down hundreds of men in seconds. This century, technology will change more than it did from 0 to 2000 AD, if we don't wipe ourselves out.  Twenty years in the information age reshapes our civilization more wholly than two hundred years of industrial revolution.

Cum with me and embrace sexual paradise on earth, because conquering all potential violence with overwhelming pleasure is the only way your grandchildren survive a world in which .

Oh come on. You know as well as anyone, that in a different part of the universe, a being evolved way faster than we (on account of universe conditions over there), so that it is way advanced beyond what we could ever imagine. In fact, this "being" is so far in advance beyond us that it can control the space-time continuum. When it figured out that it could do this, it turned the universe into a cause and effect place, got rid of evolution in favor of creation, and decided to take its place as god.

What's it going to do next?

 

[Beliathon]

The survival on this planet with people turning from God, will be nil.

People are turning to science and will continue to do so until your christian god goes the way of Zeus.