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September 21, 2012, 03:03:17 PM
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If you want a quick throwaway wallet use a site like blockchan.info. Not only are your funds in your actual account(not consolidated into some giant wallet), but the private key is never revealed to the server. They could not take your coins even if they wanted to.
Fallacy, has been discussed before here

TL;DR : Your bitcoins can easily get stolen if the server gets compromised, the owner threatened or if he goes rogue, and that's simply because javascript is dynamically served from the server, it can be modified at will by anyone accessing the server.

Since you did not quote the part where I warned about that then I assume you did not read it:

You should be on the watch for their javascript changing though.

There are plugins for browsers that will warn you if the javascript changes. With this plugin an attacker cannot change the system to reveal your keys without you getting a warning. The source code as it stands now is very easy to read. With such a plugin I would consider it to be reasonably safe. It does however compromise you ability to be anonymous if that is your thing.

There is even a plugin just for and by blockchain to protect against js modification attacks: https://blockchain.info/wallet/verifier - however I prefer to use a generic version for the aformentioned potential of the operator going rouge.

You also forgot to mention man in the middle attacks which can take place at a tor exit node, but that would require the servers ssl cert to be compromised.
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September 21, 2012, 03:16:09 PM
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Since you did not quote the part where I warned about that then I assume you did not read it:

You should be on the watch for their javascript changing though.
Wasn't that an edit ? Sorry if it wasn't and I overlooked it Smiley

There are plugins for browsers that will warn you if the javascript changes.
Yep, but that isn't blockchain.info anymore, that's blockchain.info + a plugin.

The source code as it stands now is very easy to read.
My mom still has issues with the concepts of copy and paste Smiley

With such a plugin I would consider it to be reasonably safe.
I do agree, but many people still think it's some kind of security silver bullet where they don't have to trust the operator since he "doesn't have access to your keys". Honestly, how much people do you think use some kind of JS verifier ?

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September 21, 2012, 03:31:33 PM
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Since you did not quote the part where I warned about that then I assume you did not read it:

You should be on the watch for their javascript changing though.
Wasn't that an edit ? Sorry if it wasn't and I overlooked it Smiley

There are plugins for browsers that will warn you if the javascript changes.
Yep, but that isn't blockchain.info anymore, that's blockchain.info + a plugin.

The source code as it stands now is very easy to read.
My mom still has issues with the concepts of copy and paste Smiley

With such a plugin I would consider it to be reasonably safe.
I do agree, but many people still think it's some kind of security silver bullet where they don't have to trust the operator since he "doesn't have access to your keys". Honestly, how much people do you think use some kind of JS verifier ?


Oh, that may have been an edit, but within minutes of the original post. I agree that for Mom and Pop using it that they are vulnerable. Good point about now having to trust the plugin, a valid concern.

I know a little perl, I may try to directly interface with their API if I can figure out local signing and decryption of keys.
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September 24, 2012, 02:03:31 PM
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Note this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112327.0
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November 20, 2012, 02:58:26 PM
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Any updates on this site?  It is up and running again - and scamming.

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March 01, 2014, 03:28:42 PM
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Found this update to the story !

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1z9jmy/just_noticed_my_tor_wallet_emptied_a_couple_of/
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March 01, 2014, 10:53:50 PM
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Looks like you will not get your BTC back.

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March 02, 2014, 06:43:17 PM
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wow, that is a really old thread

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November 08, 2016, 07:41:18 PM
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I just recently used my Tor wallet successfully, but today trying to log in to my account I got error message "Invalid username or password. Please login below."
 I am 100% sure I used correct username and password
Then if I try to recover password to the registered email I get message:

"Thank you! Please check your e-mail for further information."

What the F*CK is going on` Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

This incident takes all credibility from your service!! What a joke!!
I have 0 trust on this site!
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November 09, 2016, 11:35:43 PM
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As you can see by the other posts in this thread, TOR Wallet is a scam. Sorry for your loss. It's tough to learn first hand that sending money to an anonymous stranger on the internet is generally a bad idea.

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November 11, 2016, 07:08:04 AM
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There are many negative reviews regarding this. This is why it is best to use blockchain.info online wallet, if you want an online one, the Bitcoin-qt wallet, if a software is needed and a hardware/paper wallet is best if you are talking about holding significant BTCs.
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November 12, 2016, 12:44:35 AM
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I have had no problem using this site id yo try again and did yu manage t sort at the problem I h0pe you have if just keep  trying you should be able to get your coins....

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November 14, 2016, 10:55:38 AM
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As you can see by the other posts in this thread, TOR Wallet is a scam. Sorry for your loss. It's tough to learn first hand that sending money to an anonymous stranger on the internet is generally a bad idea.

Sadly people will continue to get burnt by shit like this. Seriously how many times does it have to be stated -

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November 20, 2016, 07:18:58 PM
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I don't have experiences with this TOR wallet but I see many people here have issues. Maybe they wanted to attract people with the fact that is TOR so more anonimous and now they are taking advantage of it. Maybe that you shift to another wallet like blockchain or something?

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