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July 03, 2015, 05:59:18 AM
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The real reason America is exceptional

Todd Starnes

As the first rays of morning light wash over the eastern seaboard -- a flag is unfurled with broad stripes and bright stars.

A soldier stands guard over sleeping heroes - known only to their Maker.

MOAR - http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/07/02/real-reason-america-is-exceptional.html

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The real reason America is exceptional

Todd Starnes

As the first rays of morning light wash over the eastern seaboard -- a flag is unfurled with broad stripes and bright stars.

A soldier stands guard over sleeping heroes - known only to their Maker.

MOAR - http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/07/02/real-reason-america-is-exceptional.html

The real reason America is exceptional is, God is holding her in such a way. There are two other reason, one good and the other as good as it could be. The good one first.

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America is exceptional because her government is set up in freedom for the individual. The 9th Amendment allows the individual to bypass government in any way that does not harm a person or damage his property. The 9th Amendment from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution:
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The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
This means that people have all the rights to do anything that they had before the inception of the U.S. Government or the Constitution.

If government wants to interpret the 9th Amendment in ways that eliminate freedom from the people to do anything that they want (like smoking pot), then the 7th Amendment can be used by the people to back up the 9th Amendment. The 7th Amendment from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution:
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In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
This means that if a person invokes the 7th Amendment right to jury trial under common law, the jury can judge even the law to be illegal, thereby bypassing virtually any law right down to the Constitution itself.

The greater effect of this is that the whole United States Government can be overturned and overruled by a jury if done properly. It also means that all State laws and corporations can be overcome by a single person in court, as long as the person has not harmed anyone or damaged his property.

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America is exceptional because of her people. Her people originally (back in the late 1700s and early to mid 1800s) did not use their rights memorialized in the above two amendments to overcome the U.S. and State governments, because they wanted to make sure that the government of the U.S. became strong. After the Civil War, the people gradually forgot how to use their rights memorialized in the above two amendments, thereby making America as though it were a Napoleonic Code nation rather than a common law (7th Amendment) nation... right up to today.

The amazing thing is that the forgetfulness of the people has allowed America to become a police state, even though the rights of the people to prevail over injustices and inequities of government remain.

Isn't it time for the people to change government so that the people are really free? We can do it using the 7th and 9th Amendments. To start learning the nitty gritty of the methods for doing this, personally and in groups, see:

http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Karl-Lentz.html = Angela Stark's Talkshoe.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5duR4OvEHHxOSdEZhANETw = TrustInAllLaw snippets of Karl's audios.

http://www.broadmind.org/ = Karl's main page.

http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/ = Karl's United Kingdom page.

http://www.youtube.com/user/765736/videos?view=0&live_view=500&flow=grid&sort=da = Craig Lynch's snippets page.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkAHRzuiOA&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D = Ten great Youtube videos, might be the best introduction to Karl.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=127469&cmd=tc = Karl's Talkshoe site.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iua56K4Mysk = Karl Lentz - The Brian Bonar Incident - YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdHLHWS4gPE = Lentz-Sense - don't be a More~On - YouTube.


Other Info

http://voidjudgments.com/ = The Secret is most judgments are Void on their face and not merely voidable.

http://educationcenter2000.com/Trinsey-v-Paglario.htm = Trinsey v. Pagliaro - Attorneys cannot "speak" in common law trials if the one who is bringing the suit orders it. Holding from Trinsey v. Pagliaro: "An attorney for the plaintiff cannot admit evidence into the court. He is either an attorney or a witness."


In addition, Skype "calminlaw" and ask to be added to their Skype page.

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A person upholds his right to common law by bringing his own suit in his own court at the same courthouse building that the government brings their law suits at. The court rules that the person entertains need to be written in an amendment/exhibit as part of his suit. The court rules may state that the "judge" is not allow to speak in any way that might cause the case to be taken out of common law and brought into government's administrative law. These court rules may state that the "judges" sole purposes are to keep general order in the court, and to witness the proceedings. The jury is the true judges. Jury instructions are given in the rules in the suit, not the rules set down by the so-called, black-robed judge or the administrative laws and rules of court.

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July 03, 2015, 11:32:11 AM
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Fox News = Rupert Murdoch's personal right-wing propaganda machine. It's horribad.

Remember Aaron Swartz, a 26 year old computer scientist who died defending the free flow of information.
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July 03, 2015, 03:30:06 PM
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Fox News = Rupert Murdoch's personal right-wing propaganda machine. It's horribad.





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Nothing you are using right now as a tool to communicate could have been invented without the USA... Including a word like horribad...


That is why people die to swim to the US and not to Mexico...


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Fox News is biased shit, the same as every other news company which is or has been run by Rupert Murdoch in the US or the UK. I couldn't care which country you believe to be exceptional, but citing your sources as Fox News isn't too great.

Nothing you are using right now as a tool to communicate could have been invented without the USA... Including a word like horribad...
Apart from the world wide web was created by an Englishman in a European facility. Granted that the US helped with the conception of the Internet, though I wouldn't describe them as completely responsible.

That is why people die to swim to the US and not to Mexico...
People die going from Africa to countries in Europe, doesn't mean that said countries are the best places on earth.
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July 03, 2015, 05:40:00 PM
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The real reason America is exceptional

Todd Starnes

As the first rays of morning light wash over the eastern seaboard -- a flag is unfurled with broad stripes and bright stars.

A soldier stands guard over sleeping heroes - known only to their Maker.

MOAR - http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/07/02/real-reason-america-is-exceptional.html

The real reason America is exceptional is, God is holding her in such a way. There are two other reason, one good and the other as good as it could be. The good one first.

I am honestly not sure whether you're trolling or not, but I've often found that a disturbingly large amount of Americans genuinely believe god somehow favors their country over others or that America is 'god's country' for some bizarre reason. They can never justify it other than blind patriotism/delusion but I always find it bizarre.
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July 03, 2015, 06:28:11 PM
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The real reason America is exceptional

Todd Starnes

As the first rays of morning light wash over the eastern seaboard -- a flag is unfurled with broad stripes and bright stars.

A soldier stands guard over sleeping heroes - known only to their Maker.

MOAR - http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/07/02/real-reason-america-is-exceptional.html

The real reason America is exceptional is, God is holding her in such a way. There are two other reason, one good and the other as good as it could be. The good one first.

I am honestly not sure whether you're trolling or not, but I've often found that a disturbingly large amount of Americans genuinely believe god somehow favors their country over others or that America is 'god's country' for some bizarre reason. They can never justify it other than blind patriotism/delusion but I always find it bizarre.
QFT, I've found this applies often around here:



Remember Aaron Swartz, a 26 year old computer scientist who died defending the free flow of information.
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Fox News is biased shit, the same as every other news company which is or has been run by Rupert Murdoch in the US or the UK. I couldn't care which country you believe to be exceptional, but citing your sources as Fox News isn't too great.

Nothing you are using right now as a tool to communicate could have been invented without the USA... Including a word like horribad...
Apart from the world wide web was created by an Englishman in a European facility. Granted that the US helped with the conception of the Internet, though I wouldn't describe them as completely responsible.

That is why people die to swim to the US and not to Mexico...
People die going from Africa to countries in Europe, doesn't mean that said countries are the best places on earth.


We agree. European countries are not up to the USA's attraction for opportunities. The Atlantic ocean forces all the migrants to get to the nearest place, not the best place...



Apart from the world wide web was created by an Englishman in a European facility


Steve Jobs Created The Computer That Gave Us The World Wide Web

http://www.cultofmac.com/225838/steve-jobs-created-the-computer-that-gave-us-the-world-wide-web/


25 years of HyperCard—the missing link to the Web
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/25-years-of-hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web/

Thank you for making my point even clearer... And I am not even a apple fanboi.



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We agree. European countries are not up to the USA's attraction for opportunities. The Atlantic ocean forces all the migrants to get to the nearest place, not the best place...
Same can be said about the bridge of water between the two main American continents. If you want opportunities, Asia is probably the best for that, not the US.

Steve Jobs Created The Computer That Gave Us The World Wide Web
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http://www.cultofmac.com/225838/steve-jobs-created-the-computer-that-gave-us-the-world-wide-web/


25 years of HyperCard—the missing link to the Web
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/25-years-of-hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web/

Thank you for making my point even clearer... And I am not even a apple fanboi.
Good for him. If we're doing it like that, we owe it to Austria-Hungary for creating the transistor and therefore creating computer ships. I mean, if Julius Edgar Lilienfeld hadn't created the transistor the computer chip wouldn't have been made and the computer wouldn't have been created.
(Before you say he was American, he filed the patent for the transistor in 1925 before emigrating to the US in 1927. He was not living in the US or an American citizen at this time).

Also, please elaborate on how I made the point clearer? If Steve Jobs hadn't created that computer the world wide web would have probably been created on another. I doubt it was a vital part in the creation.
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We agree. European countries are not up to the USA's attraction for opportunities. The Atlantic ocean forces all the migrants to get to the nearest place, not the best place...
Same can be said about the bridge of water between the two main American continents. If you want opportunities, Asia is probably the best for that, not the US.

Steve Jobs Created The Computer That Gave Us The World Wide Web
snip
http://www.cultofmac.com/225838/steve-jobs-created-the-computer-that-gave-us-the-world-wide-web/


25 years of HyperCard—the missing link to the Web
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/25-years-of-hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web/

Thank you for making my point even clearer... And I am not even a apple fanboi.
Good for him. If we're doing it like that, we owe it to Austria-Hungary for creating the transistor and therefore creating computer ships. I mean, if Julius Edgar Lilienfeld hadn't created the transistor the computer chip wouldn't have been made and the computer wouldn't have been created.
(Before you say he was American, he filed the patent for the transistor in 1925 before emigrating to the US in 1927. He was not living in the US or an American citizen at this time).

Also, please elaborate on how I made the point clearer? If Steve Jobs hadn't created that computer the world wide web would have probably been created on another. I doubt it was a vital part in the creation.


Your doubt is noted, but I doubt it will have any impact on history

http://mashable.com/2013/07/04/badass-american-inventions/


Can you go by your day without using a single american invention?


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We agree. European countries are not up to the USA's attraction for opportunities. The Atlantic ocean forces all the migrants to get to the nearest place, not the best place...
Same can be said about the bridge of water between the two main American continents. If you want opportunities, Asia is probably the best for that, not the US.

Steve Jobs Created The Computer That Gave Us The World Wide Web
snip
http://www.cultofmac.com/225838/steve-jobs-created-the-computer-that-gave-us-the-world-wide-web/


25 years of HyperCard—the missing link to the Web
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/25-years-of-hypercard-the-missing-link-to-the-web/

Thank you for making my point even clearer... And I am not even a apple fanboi.
Good for him. If we're doing it like that, we owe it to Austria-Hungary for creating the transistor and therefore creating computer ships. I mean, if Julius Edgar Lilienfeld hadn't created the transistor the computer chip wouldn't have been made and the computer wouldn't have been created.
(Before you say he was American, he filed the patent for the transistor in 1925 before emigrating to the US in 1927. He was not living in the US or an American citizen at this time).

Also, please elaborate on how I made the point clearer? If Steve Jobs hadn't created that computer the world wide web would have probably been created on another. I doubt it was a vital part in the creation.


Your doubt is noted, but I doubt it will have any impact on history

http://mashable.com/2013/07/04/badass-american-inventions/


Can you go by your day without using a single american invention?




A+ trolling - would read again
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July 03, 2015, 08:39:17 PM
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Your doubt is noted, but I doubt it will have any impact on history

http://mashable.com/2013/07/04/badass-american-inventions/

Can you go by your day without using a single american invention?
Yeah, no. I'm done with this, trying to debate with someone with a mindset as open as an elevator is like banging my own head against a wall.
And please stop using so many linebreaks in your posts. It's a pain in the arse trying to format quotes from you when 3/4 of it is blank space.
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Your doubt is noted, but I doubt it will have any impact on history

http://mashable.com/2013/07/04/badass-american-inventions/

Can you go by your day without using a single american invention?
Yeah, no. I'm done with this, trying to debate with someone with a mindset as open as an elevator is like banging my own head against a wall.
And please stop using so many linebreaks in your posts. It's a pain in the arse trying to format quotes from you when 3/4 of it is blank space.







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The real reason America is exceptional

Todd Starnes

As the first rays of morning light wash over the eastern seaboard -- a flag is unfurled with broad stripes and bright stars.

A soldier stands guard over sleeping heroes - known only to their Maker.

MOAR - http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/07/02/real-reason-america-is-exceptional.html

The real reason America is exceptional is, God is holding her in such a way. There are two other reason, one good and the other as good as it could be. The good one first.

I am honestly not sure whether you're trolling or not, but I've often found that a disturbingly large amount of Americans genuinely believe god somehow favors their country over others or that America is 'god's country' for some bizarre reason. They can never justify it other than blind patriotism/delusion but I always find it bizarre.

God uses whatever country works best for expanding His Word among the nations - around the world. Often He does this by making His "favored" country into a powerful nation for His work.

If you look at the history of America, you will find that America has in the past promoted God's mission work at times more than any other country. Even now, among all the sinning and apostasy found in America, this country is still one of the greatest promoters, spreading God's Word among the nations.

Consider BibleGateway (https://www.biblegateway.com/), a place where you can find many translations of the Bible into many languages of many nations, making them all available to anyone who has the Internet worldwide.

Consider, also, missions like Faith Comes By Hearing, formerly Hosanna, (https://www.biblegateway.com/), a group who promotes the Bible in over 500 languages by sending Bible CDs and Bible tapes to poor people around the world.

America is still one of the best promoters of God's Word so that people from every nation can be saved.

In addition, there is the part of my, above, post that you didn't quote. It talks about freedom for all people... how Americans can regain freedom from their own government that they seem to have lost. God wants freedom for people, just because that's the way He is. He would like freedom for all people so that they might spread His Word. But He offers the freedom even if they don't do His work. America has freedom built into her founding documents. Because of this simple fact alone, God favors America.

The points listed in this post are just the beginnings of why God might continue to maintain freedom in America, even though many of the people of America are sinning much.

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In addition, there is the part of my, above, post that you didn't quote. It talks about freedom for all people... how Americans can regain freedom from their own government that they seem to have lost. God wants freedom for people, just because that's the way He is. He would like freedom for all people so that they might spread His Word. But He offers the freedom even if they don't do His work. America has freedom built into her founding documents. Because of this simple fact alone, God favors America.

The points listed in this post are just the beginnings of why God might continue to maintain freedom in America, even though many of the people of America are sinning much.

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Lol. America likes to portray itself as free and freedom loving but but there's nothing free about it and the idea of America is just a colossal hypocrite and contradiction. Land of the free but spying on its citizens and the rest of the world? Land of the free but lock up more people than any other nation and most of them for petty drug offenses? Land of the free but will evade your country whenever it feels like it? Land of the free but is a country that is founded on genocide and theft? I don't think so. America is a delusion and so is anyone who think it's the greatest country or the country of god etc and this is exactly what's wrong with both blind belief in religion and blind patriotism.
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The real reason America is exceptional

Todd Starnes

As the first rays of morning light wash over the eastern seaboard -- a flag is unfurled with broad stripes and bright stars.

A soldier stands guard over sleeping heroes - known only to their Maker.

MOAR - http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/07/02/real-reason-america-is-exceptional.html

The real reason America is exceptional is, God is holding her in such a way. There are two other reason, one good and the other as good as it could be. The good one first.

=================================================

America is exceptional because her government is set up in freedom for the individual. The 9th Amendment allows the individual to bypass government in any way that does not harm a person or damage his property. The 9th Amendment from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution:
Quote
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
This means that people have all the rights to do anything that they had before the inception of the U.S. Government or the Constitution.

If government wants to interpret the 9th Amendment in ways that eliminate freedom from the people to do anything that they want (like smoking pot), then the 7th Amendment can be used by the people to back up the 9th Amendment. The 7th Amendment from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution:
Quote
In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
This means that if a person invokes the 7th Amendment right to jury trial under common law, the jury can judge even the law to be illegal, thereby bypassing virtually any law right down to the Constitution itself.

The greater effect of this is that the whole United States Government can be overturned and overruled by a jury if done properly. It also means that all State laws and corporations can be overcome by a single person in court, as long as the person has not harmed anyone or damaged his property.

=================================================

America is exceptional because of her people. Her people originally (back in the late 1700s and early to mid 1800s) did not use their rights memorialized in the above two amendments to overcome the U.S. and State governments, because they wanted to make sure that the government of the U.S. became strong. After the Civil War, the people gradually forgot how to use their rights memorialized in the above two amendments, thereby making America as though it were a Napoleonic Code nation rather than a common law (7th Amendment) nation... right up to today.

The amazing thing is that the forgetfulness of the people has allowed America to become a police state, even though the rights of the people to prevail over injustices and inequities of government remain.

Isn't it time for the people to change government so that the people are really free? We can do it using the 7th and 9th Amendments. To start learning the nitty gritty of the methods for doing this, personally and in groups, see:

http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Karl-Lentz.html = Angela Stark's Talkshoe.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5duR4OvEHHxOSdEZhANETw = TrustInAllLaw snippets of Karl's audios.

http://www.broadmind.org/ = Karl's main page.

http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/ = Karl's United Kingdom page.

http://www.youtube.com/user/765736/videos?view=0&live_view=500&flow=grid&sort=da = Craig Lynch's snippets page.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkAHRzuiOA&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D = Ten great Youtube videos, might be the best introduction to Karl.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=127469&cmd=tc = Karl's Talkshoe site.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iua56K4Mysk = Karl Lentz - The Brian Bonar Incident - YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdHLHWS4gPE = Lentz-Sense - don't be a More~On - YouTube.


Other Info

http://voidjudgments.com/ = The Secret is most judgments are Void on their face and not merely voidable.

http://educationcenter2000.com/Trinsey-v-Paglario.htm = Trinsey v. Pagliaro - Attorneys cannot "speak" in common law trials if the one who is bringing the suit orders it. Holding from Trinsey v. Pagliaro: "An attorney for the plaintiff cannot admit evidence into the court. He is either an attorney or a witness."


In addition, Skype "calminlaw" and ask to be added to their Skype page.

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July 08, 2015, 02:48:57 PM
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In addition, there is the part of my, above, post that you didn't quote. It talks about freedom for all people... how Americans can regain freedom from their own government that they seem to have lost. God wants freedom for people, just because that's the way He is. He would like freedom for all people so that they might spread His Word. But He offers the freedom even if they don't do His work. America has freedom built into her founding documents. Because of this simple fact alone, God favors America.

The points listed in this post are just the beginnings of why God might continue to maintain freedom in America, even though many of the people of America are sinning much.

Smiley

Lol. America likes to portray itself as free and freedom loving but but there's nothing free about it and the idea of America is just a colossal hypocrite and contradiction. Land of the free but spying on its citizens and the rest of the world? Land of the free but lock up more people than any other nation and most of them for petty drug offenses? Land of the free but will evade your country whenever it feels like it? Land of the free but is a country that is founded on genocide and theft? I don't think so. America is a delusion and so is anyone who think it's the greatest country or the country of god etc and this is exactly what's wrong with both blind belief in religion and blind patriotism.

America doesn't like anything, nor does it portray itself as anything. America is a group of people, and a group of groups of people, who have many different ideals and do many different things. What you are talking about is the way some people (usually the media) portray America.

America doesn't spy on its people and the rest of the world. There are one or two agencies of a corporate legal system that do that.

America doesn't lock up people for petty illegalities. It is a corporate legal system that does that.

It is not America that does any of the wrongs you mentioned. It is a group of people who have pulled the wool over the eyes of the people of America who are doing it. Indeed, there are bad things mixed within the good in American government. But the people of America are victims of a small group of legalistic jokers who want to control the whole world. Americans are victims, just like everyone else.

I know it is a little bit long. But read and think about the whole thing that I wrote above, instead of only skimming it. The people of America have the ability to get themselves out of their legal troubles by using the legal system against itself. They simply don't know it.

There is one thing that keeps the American government from being the best government in the world. It is the ignorance of the people regarding how easy it is to individually get out from under the civil-like "legalness" of their own system when they perceive that the system is wrong.

Other than that, the American system of government is the best and freest.

Smiley

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