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It's surprising PayPal cannot agree with the T&C of any country or it's the opposite case. They dislike Sri Lanka as well and it seems Sri Lankan PP accounts cannot receive PP funds. Even with regards to my country India, RBI doesn't allow PP to hold any funds and hence even a small amount as $0.1 is withdrawn to my bank within 2-3 days of it getting deposited into my PayPal. BTC is much better as till I don't make a transfer, the coins remain safe in my wallet and it is not regulated by the Government as well.
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October 25, 2015, 07:23:27 PM |
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Once the lightning network is operative (and maybe the blocksize is increased a bit) I can see Bitcoin being a major player on future similar events in this and other countries, but until that day, we can't say that Bitcoin can replace the currency of those countries, it's not an alternative. People of course, can dindividually decide to use bitcoin as a way out from their governments at any time.
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October 25, 2015, 08:29:16 PM |
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I hope it does not happen in the region of Southeast Asia, especially in Indonesia, because at this time is in need paypal for my foreign transactions, like when to know that at this time paypal is the only site accounts that were able to connect with many banks in the whole world
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October 25, 2015, 09:36:31 PM |
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I hope it does not happen in the region of Southeast Asia, especially in Indonesia, because at this time is in need paypal for my foreign transactions, like when to know that at this time paypal is the only site accounts that were able to connect with many banks in the whole world
I counter that; as i believe that's exactly what's needed for bitcoin to become more popular there as well, if the other payment options get nulled. You can use bitcoin for any transaction almost, because many sites are starting to use bitpay to process transactions, and you can transfer person to person funds via ATM or exchanges. Don't really see what's making you stick with paypal, bitcoin is way better imho.
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October 25, 2015, 10:28:12 PM |
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I hope it does not happen in the region of Southeast Asia, especially in Indonesia, because at this time is in need paypal for my foreign transactions, like when to know that at this time paypal is the only site accounts that were able to connect with many banks in the whole world
I counter that; as i believe that's exactly what's needed for bitcoin to become more popular there as well, if the other payment options get nulled. You can use bitcoin for any transaction almost, because many sites are starting to use bitpay to process transactions, and you can transfer person to person funds via ATM or exchanges. Don't really see what's making you stick with paypal, bitcoin is way better imho. OK but you can't compare Paypal and Bitcoin, paypal is only a system, connecting seller and customer, with a money exchange function, but Bitcoin is not only like this but it's a currency itself too. You can't compare them because people usually know paypal but only some of them know about Bitcoin yet, but hopefully it will get more widespread in the near future.
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October 26, 2015, 12:45:08 AM |
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I can tell you that pay pal isalso banned to Catalunia in Spain and some other Spanish areas But so what,thayare much better simillar to pay pal services,from UK,available forany EU citzens,Neteller for example
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October 26, 2015, 08:07:27 AM |
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I hope it does not happen in the region of Southeast Asia, especially in Indonesia, because at this time is in need paypal for my foreign transactions, like when to know that at this time paypal is the only site accounts that were able to connect with many banks in the whole world
We'll never know what the future holds, but still it will depend on the economic stability of a particular country.
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October 26, 2015, 11:06:54 AM Last edit: October 28, 2015, 07:32:28 PM by Amph |
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I hope it does not happen in the region of Southeast Asia, especially in Indonesia, because at this time is in need paypal for my foreign transactions, like when to know that at this time paypal is the only site accounts that were able to connect with many banks in the whole world
no store accept bitcoin there? you can always buy online if you want, and anyway open bazar is coming, every9one around the wolrd will have a chance to buy stuff with bitcoin directly
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October 26, 2015, 11:58:25 AM |
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I hope it does not happen in the region of Southeast Asia, especially in Indonesia, because at this time is in need paypal for my foreign transactions, like when to know that at this time paypal is the only site accounts that were able to connect with many banks in the whole world
I counter that; as i believe that's exactly what's needed for bitcoin to become more popular there as well, if the other payment options get nulled. You can use bitcoin for any transaction almost, because many sites are starting to use bitpay to process transactions, and you can transfer person to person funds via ATM or exchanges. Don't really see what's making you stick with paypal, bitcoin is way better imho.The reason people choose PayPal as it's not only legal to accept PayPal payments but PP is widely recognized and adopted as a payment method by many online shopping websites and it allows withdrawal to the banks. Bitcoin is getting popular day by day but many countries have made this currency illegal and very few online shopping websites do accept bitcoins and they aren't even popular websites. Though it's easier to deal in bitcoins, we need to understand that till it doesn't get legalized in most countries like PayPal, it won't gain more popularity as compared to PayPal.
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October 26, 2015, 12:59:50 PM |
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A lot of confusion here so let me clear few things. I live in Greece myself so I know what's going on.
ATM cash withdrawals are limited to ~400€ per week.
Paying taxes, buying from stores, transacting money to individuals or companies with an account in the country is done electronically without limits.
Remittances by individuals headed outside of the country are limited to 500€ a month.
Paypal hasn't banned Greece, Greeks were locked out from using it's features for a while but as capital controls loosened we're now able to use it (with the limitations in place).
Prepaid card paysafe had completely shut down it's services but is now offering normal service for consumers that want to buy products or services from companies using paysafe and have registered offices within the country. (selection is limited though, big names like steam aren't registered in Greece.)
Companies can transact money but transactions go through approvals from committees set in each bank.
There's currently no reliable way for Greeks to buy bitcoin. Yeah, believe it or not, despite all the hype we still have no reliable way to buy bitcoin even after capital controls have become less strict.
Bitcoin debit cards exist and are accessible by Greeks, they work normally with no limits in Greece too (as any card issues without a Greek bank would work). However, as there's no way Greeks can conveniently convert their money to BTC it's kinda pointless for people that didn't already own bitcoin to use one.
Cards issued with Greek banks allow to process certain transactions with companies outside Greece. Some activities like gambling and gaming are excluded and on top of that there's also a monthly limit.
What about face to face exchanging thru localbitcoins.com? There appears to be a number of advertisers for both selling and buying in Athens. Greece has a sizable tourism industry for foriegners no? Why not tourist venue operators advertise a discount when paying in bitcoin, and then sell the bitcoin to other greek nationals to spread the digital currency around?
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October 26, 2015, 11:19:15 PM |
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What about face to face exchanging thru localbitcoins.com? There appears to be a number of advertisers for both selling and buying in Athens. Greece has a sizable tourism industry for foriegners no? Why not tourist venue operators advertise a discount when paying in bitcoin, and then sell the bitcoin to other greek nationals to spread the digital currency around?
Yes, there are people advertising bitcoin sales through localbitcoins, however most of them are fake. They're not filtered so there's a lot of spam. The only sellers with reasonable prices and volumes aren't even living in Greece and have invalid ads. And yes, lots of tourists incoming. I haven't met any interested in bitcoin though. I think it'd be perfectly possible for a tourist to 'import' bitcoins and get paid in cash but such a procedure would fall under money laundering or at least make the parties look suspicious to the authorities if done at a large scale. Certainly not a reliable way to boost bitcoin adoption.
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Even though i don't like and i don't use paypal. They fast limit your account and require lots of documents to 'unlock' your account. About the greece people i am a bit surprised that paypal has stopped their service in this country which i think needs to get 'donations' from others at least through paypal.
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Seems like many people are replying to this topic only by reading the title... Come one guys, put a little more effort into your posts and read about what you're posting. Paypal is no longer "blocking" Greece, this is an old post.
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October 28, 2015, 03:44:00 PM Last edit: October 28, 2015, 04:59:19 PM by n2004al |
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Seems like many people are replying to this topic only by reading the title... Come one guys, put a little more effort into your posts and read about what you're posting. Paypal is no longer "blocking" Greece, this is an old post.
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October 28, 2015, 05:43:56 PM |
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Did Greece ban PayPal or did PayPal ban Greece?
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