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July 07, 2015, 07:59:59 PM
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Pool all fork. The front of the 600 who dug?
everything mined up to block 577 i think was on right chain, after block 577 chain splitted.. so u guys only loosed mined coins after block 577.. correct me if i am wrong.

Ya this is wrong, ALL coins mined on pools are lost inc pre-fork unless pools can fix. Suprnova already said he isnt  Sad

Maybe dev can convince them to fix?
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July 07, 2015, 08:05:53 PM
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Pool all fork. The front of the 600 who dug?
everything mined up to block 577 i think was on right chain, after block 577 chain splitted.. so u guys only loosed mined coins after block 577.. correct me if i am wrong.

Ya this is wrong, ALL coins mined on pools are lost inc pre-fork unless pools can fix. Suprnova already said he isnt  Sad

Maybe dev can convince them to fix?

We are working on it.  It would be helpful to reach out to the pool operators yourselves as well.  Hopefully we can come to a resolution that is acceptable by everyone involved.
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July 07, 2015, 08:15:59 PM
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Pool all fork. The front of the 600 who dug?
everything mined up to block 577 i think was on right chain, after block 577 chain splitted.. so u guys only loosed mined coins after block 577.. correct me if i am wrong.

Ya this is wrong, ALL coins mined on pools are lost inc pre-fork unless pools can fix. Suprnova already said he isnt  Sad

Maybe dev can convince them to fix?

What can i do? Since the fork block, everything is lost and if the coins before the fork where also mined on a separate chain they are of course lost too, i am the last one who wouldn't help but all the dev did was "your fork is wrong, my fork is right" that's about it..  So unless he doesnt accept the pools chain as "the" chain, there is nothing i, or the other pools from the launch can Do

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July 07, 2015, 08:22:12 PM
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Pool all fork. The front of the 600 who dug?
everything mined up to block 577 i think was on right chain, after block 577 chain splitted.. so u guys only loosed mined coins after block 577.. correct me if i am wrong.

Ya this is wrong, ALL coins mined on pools are lost inc pre-fork unless pools can fix. Suprnova already said he isnt  Sad

Maybe dev can convince them to fix?

What can i do? Since the fork block, everything is lost and if the coins before the fork where also mined on a separate chain they are of course lost too, i am the last one who wouldn't help but all the dev did was "your fork is wrong, my fork is right" that's about it..  So unless he doesnt accept the pools chain as "the" chain, there is nothing i, or the other pools from the launch can Do
can't u and other pool operator just resync into new chain and coins mined up to block 577 are anyway accepted? split happened after block 577 so not all is lost right?

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July 07, 2015, 08:22:55 PM
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Pool all fork. The front of the 600 who dug?
everything mined up to block 577 i think was on right chain, after block 577 chain splitted.. so u guys only loosed mined coins after block 577.. correct me if i am wrong.

Ya this is wrong, ALL coins mined on pools are lost inc pre-fork unless pools can fix. Suprnova already said he isnt  Sad

Maybe dev can convince them to fix?

What can i do? Since the fork block, everything is lost and if the coins before the fork where also mined on a separate chain they are of course lost too, i am the last one who wouldn't help but all the dev did was "your fork is wrong, my fork is right" that's about it..  So unless he doesnt accept the pools chain as "the" chain, there is nothing i, or the other pools from the launch can Do
can't u and other pool operator just resync into new chain and coins mined up to block 577 are anyway accepted? split happened after block 577 so not all is lost right?

I will try again but earlier there was no connect possible

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July 07, 2015, 08:26:45 PM
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thanks oc, idk why we didnt use the pools fork anyway...dev asked community, and everyone said go with pool's and yet he didnt  Undecided

going with the fork that had mined like 10 blocks @30TH vs the pools that had mined 500 more blocks at 900TH is beyond me and dont help the coin or community at all..
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July 07, 2015, 08:44:05 PM
Last edit: July 07, 2015, 09:06:58 PM by trader19
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Hello all,

we are proud to be now a member of the Pulsar Community and created a second pool.

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Change the Pool to mine different coins over the top left dropdown.Our pools mainpage www.miningpool.cc


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hey thanks for the pool but whats going on with payments?  Huh didn't receive any for past 2 hours... and you didn't respond to pm.. (okay i got response, waiting...)

We are investingating issues in the backend. Your shares and hashrate are safe and we will fix things ASAP.

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July 07, 2015, 09:58:04 PM
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I've resynched to the new chain:

src/Pulsard getinfo
{
    "version" : "v2.0.0.0-g32a928e",
    "protocolversion" : 60015,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 0.00000000,
    "newmint" : 0.00000000,
    "stake" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 1413,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "moneysupply" : 538600.00000000,
    "connections" : 6,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : {
        "proof-of-work" : 458609.17120864,
        "proof-of-stake" : 0.00390625
    },
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1436258768,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00100000,
    "mininput" : 0.00000000,
    "errors" : ""
}


And as expected, EVERY coin is gone since it was a totally different fork from the start.

Since the Dev's nodes where down, the node I connected, pool.mn's node, was the "masternode" and everything was mined upon this chain.. Then at some time the Dev's node came back online and instead of connecting to pool.mn, suprnova or the other pools, he started mining from block zero and the folks which connected there then mined everything new.. So there was no fork at Block 5xx ..

It was like two separate launches next to each other..

I still don't really get why not simply the pool's chain has been used as the dev was waiting for pools and there where three pools on the same chain with lots of hash on it...

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July 07, 2015, 11:05:51 PM
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I've resynched to the new chain:

src/Pulsard getinfo
{
    "version" : "v2.0.0.0-g32a928e",
    "protocolversion" : 60015,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 0.00000000,
    "newmint" : 0.00000000,
    "stake" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 1413,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "moneysupply" : 538600.00000000,
    "connections" : 6,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : {
        "proof-of-work" : 458609.17120864,
        "proof-of-stake" : 0.00390625
    },
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1436258768,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00100000,
    "mininput" : 0.00000000,
    "errors" : ""
}


And as expected, EVERY coin is gone since it was a totally different fork from the start.

Since the Dev's nodes where down, the node I connected, pool.mn's node, was the "masternode" and everything was mined upon this chain.. Then at some time the Dev's node came back online and instead of connecting to pool.mn, suprnova or the other pools, he started mining from block zero and the folks which connected there then mined everything new.. So there was no fork at Block 5xx ..

It was like two separate launches next to each other..

I still don't really get why not simply the pool's chain has been used as the dev was waiting for pools and there where three pools on the same chain with lots of hash on it...

Nodes worked for me from the first block and weren't down at anytime and I started mining earlier then pool.mn, so
it looks that for some reason pool.mn started mining from block zero on his own chain. Maybe dev's nodes didn't work
for some regions. I often have wallets with zero connections with new coins when pools are already up.
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July 08, 2015, 03:39:03 AM
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I was synced entire time with the nodes in post no problem. pool.mn was on its own chain shortly after launch.
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July 08, 2015, 03:54:46 AM
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I've resynched to the new chain:

src/Pulsard getinfo
{
    "version" : "v2.0.0.0-g32a928e",
    "protocolversion" : 60015,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 0.00000000,
    "newmint" : 0.00000000,
    "stake" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 1413,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "moneysupply" : 538600.00000000,
    "connections" : 6,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : {
        "proof-of-work" : 458609.17120864,
        "proof-of-stake" : 0.00390625
    },
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1436258768,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00100000,
    "mininput" : 0.00000000,
    "errors" : ""
}


And as expected, EVERY coin is gone since it was a totally different fork from the start.

Since the Dev's nodes where down, the node I connected, pool.mn's node, was the "masternode" and everything was mined upon this chain.. Then at some time the Dev's node came back online and instead of connecting to pool.mn, suprnova or the other pools, he started mining from block zero and the folks which connected there then mined everything new.. So there was no fork at Block 5xx ..

It was like two separate launches next to each other..

I still don't really get why not simply the pool's chain has been used as the dev was waiting for pools and there where three pools on the same chain with lots of hash on it...

First off, apologies for taking so long to address this morning's posts.  I spent a much needed day with my family who I'd neglected quite a bit while we prepared for this launch (unfortunately, the wife and kid aren't coders!).

Our nodes were not down at any point as far as we can tell.  Looking through the history of the thread, there were several people that had no problems connecting to them.  We'd set up a node in the US and one in Europe with DigitalOcean to try to have a stable network, it wasn't sufficient.  I can't say why you, ocminer, or poolmn could not connect to them - it was an unfortunate circumstance.

Looking through the BE it seems more like the fork happened at block 643.  That ~40 minute block and immediate drop in diff tells me that a lot of hash left our network preceding that block.

https://i.imgur.com/Ub5kqKp.png

poolmn can you check some of your blockhashes against the block explorer to confirm this?

http://cryptobe.com/chain/Pulsar?hi=675&count=50

Once we get this sorted out we plan to migrate our nodes to vultr to further stabilize the network.  This fork business sucked, there's no two ways about it.  Regardless of the difficulties we've encountered thus far, we will see this project through as far as the community wants us to.  I'll be on for quite some time this evening working and will be available to address any questions or concerns from the community.  Thanks.
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July 08, 2015, 05:11:00 AM
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oc is correct it was fork from the start
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July 08, 2015, 05:32:33 AM
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i dont understand what you all are taking about.. Hashgoal pool is connected to node from last 15 hours and user mining well. what problem you all are facing?

look at here.. http://hashgoal.com/pool/PULS/
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July 08, 2015, 05:50:45 AM
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i dont understand what you all are taking about.. Hashgoal pool is connected to node from last 15 hours and user mining well. what problem you all are facing?

look at here.. http://hashgoal.com/pool/PULS/

pravin, this is in reference to a fork that took place shortly after launch last night.  Hashgoal is on the correct fork, coins mined there are valid on the blockchain.
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July 08, 2015, 06:38:36 AM
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ok great, its almost near the initial POS stage... thanks..
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July 08, 2015, 06:55:07 AM
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  I spent a much needed day with my family who I'd neglected quite a bit while we prepared for this launch (unfortunately, the wife and kid aren't coders!).

Why have day off on the launch if you were preparing before launch  ?   And who is WE ? you mention a team ?  no-one codes ?

Its becoming quiet clear now.
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July 08, 2015, 08:09:18 AM
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We'll be posting a non-mandatory wallet update very soon.  Details in the updated ANN.  Thanks for your support!
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July 08, 2015, 08:35:43 AM
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WTB 10k pulsar will pay 0.065 BTC send PM
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July 08, 2015, 08:46:59 AM
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WTB 10k pulsar will pay 0.065 BTC send PM



instead rent rig  and mine at http://hashgoal.com/pool/PULS/

you can still mine it till POW end...
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July 08, 2015, 08:53:37 AM
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I've resynched to the new chain:

src/Pulsard getinfo
{
    "version" : "v2.0.0.0-g32a928e",
    "protocolversion" : 60015,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 0.00000000,
    "newmint" : 0.00000000,
    "stake" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 1413,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "moneysupply" : 538600.00000000,
    "connections" : 6,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : {
        "proof-of-work" : 458609.17120864,
        "proof-of-stake" : 0.00390625
    },
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1436258768,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00100000,
    "mininput" : 0.00000000,
    "errors" : ""
}


And as expected, EVERY coin is gone since it was a totally different fork from the start.

Since the Dev's nodes where down, the node I connected, pool.mn's node, was the "masternode" and everything was mined upon this chain.. Then at some time the Dev's node came back online and instead of connecting to pool.mn, suprnova or the other pools, he started mining from block zero and the folks which connected there then mined everything new.. So there was no fork at Block 5xx ..

It was like two separate launches next to each other..

I still don't really get why not simply the pool's chain has been used as the dev was waiting for pools and there where three pools on the same chain with lots of hash on it...

First off, apologies for taking so long to address this morning's posts.  I spent a much needed day with my family who I'd neglected quite a bit while we prepared for this launch (unfortunately, the wife and kid aren't coders!).

Our nodes were not down at any point as far as we can tell.  Looking through the history of the thread, there were several people that had no problems connecting to them.  We'd set up a node in the US and one in Europe with DigitalOcean to try to have a stable network, it wasn't sufficient.  I can't say why you, ocminer, or poolmn could not connect to them - it was an unfortunate circumstance.

Looking through the BE it seems more like the fork happened at block 643.  That ~40 minute block and immediate drop in diff tells me that a lot of hash left our network preceding that block.



poolmn can you check some of your blockhashes against the block explorer to confirm this?

http://cryptobe.com/chain/Pulsar?hi=675&count=50

Once we get this sorted out we plan to migrate our nodes to vultr to further stabilize the network.  This fork business sucked, there's no two ways about it.  Regardless of the difficulties we've encountered thus far, we will see this project through as far as the community wants us to.  I'll be on for quite some time this evening working and will be available to address any questions or concerns from the community.  Thanks.



Hey man do not try to fool us , like ocminer said there was 2 forks right from the beginning , about the nodes , maybe you just limited connection at start so you can mine yourself some coins , here is the address that mined almost 500 blocks http://cryptobe.com/address/PLx9W4VHj94tqKKmmLS4b9sfw95mopNe78  , and you keep telling us that the fork was at block 675 , first you said that was at 577 now is at 675 , if there was a fork at that block where is ocminer coins Huh

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