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July 10, 2015, 02:13:50 PM
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So did this dude just dump nearly all his LTC last night and singlehandedly caused the crash?

https://coinplorer.com/LTC/Addresses/34Ae29qWAhGGTw3cSNkPygiwsgKbbCatou?skip=20





Mother fucker... I was hoping he would keep pumping a bit more. Is this game over? LTC back to $3-2?




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July 10, 2015, 02:18:58 PM
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sounds like a pyramid scheme. He's saying that some people doing whatever (probably investing in him) is getting 4000 LTCs a day as a reward

Well: given the recent plummet, it now looks like a pyramid scheme that's collapsed...

I don't think so, it seems that someone who had a shitload of litecoins took advantage of the situation and cashed out, and this may actually help the pyramid scheme, as now it's cheaper to get in, in fiat I mean.

I think it's impressive that a scheme like this can drive the price up so much.

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July 10, 2015, 02:22:25 PM
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sounds like a pyramid scheme. He's saying that some people doing whatever (probably investing in him) is getting 4000 LTCs a day as a reward

Well: given the recent plummet, it now looks like a pyramid scheme that's collapsed...

I don't think so, it seems that someone who had a shitload of litecoins took advantage of the situation and cashed out, and this may actually help the pyramid scheme, as now it's cheaper to get in, in fiat I mean.

I think it's impressive that a scheme like this can drive the price up so much.


What? It looks like the pyrimid schemer himself sold all his LTC

https://coinplorer.com/LTC/Addresses/34Ae29qWAhGGTw3cSNkPygiwsgKbbCatou




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July 10, 2015, 02:34:11 PM
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sounds like a pyramid scheme. He's saying that some people doing whatever (probably investing in him) is getting 4000 LTCs a day as a reward

Well: given the recent plummet, it now looks like a pyramid scheme that's collapsed...

I don't think so, it seems that someone who had a shitload of litecoins took advantage of the situation and cashed out, and this may actually help the pyramid scheme, as now it's cheaper to get in, in fiat I mean.

I think it's impressive that a scheme like this can drive the price up so much.


What? It looks like the pyrimid schemer himself sold all his LTC

https://coinplorer.com/LTC/Addresses/34Ae29qWAhGGTw3cSNkPygiwsgKbbCatou

Oh, I see.

That's a lot of litecoins...

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July 10, 2015, 02:38:23 PM
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sounds like a pyramid scheme. He's saying that some people doing whatever (probably investing in him) is getting 4000 LTCs a day as a reward

Well: given the recent plummet, it now looks like a pyramid scheme that's collapsed...

I don't think so, it seems that someone who had a shitload of litecoins took advantage of the situation and cashed out, and this may actually help the pyramid scheme, as now it's cheaper to get in, in fiat I mean.

I think it's impressive that a scheme like this can drive the price up so much.


What? It looks like the pyrimid schemer himself sold all his LTC

https://coinplorer.com/LTC/Addresses/34Ae29qWAhGGTw3cSNkPygiwsgKbbCatou
Where can you see any sold? How would leave that many in one address?
Bitcoin bin called a scream pyramid scheme from day one.

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July 10, 2015, 03:18:18 PM
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As per a video posted on 8btc. A "direct sales" team is promoting the litecoin nation-wide.
http://8btc.com/thread-20406-1-1.html


It has been confirmed by Zhao Dong, a major miner& dealer in China.


is there any translate video online? Does this really explain the LTC price explosion?
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July 10, 2015, 03:21:46 PM
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sounds like a pyramid scheme. He's saying that some people doing whatever (probably investing in him) is getting 4000 LTCs a day as a reward

Well: given the recent plummet, it now looks like a pyramid scheme that's collapsed...

I don't think so, it seems that someone who had a shitload of litecoins took advantage of the situation and cashed out, and this may actually help the pyramid scheme, as now it's cheaper to get in, in fiat I mean.

I think it's impressive that a scheme like this can drive the price up so much.


What? It looks like the pyrimid schemer himself sold all his LTC

https://coinplorer.com/LTC/Addresses/34Ae29qWAhGGTw3cSNkPygiwsgKbbCatou
Where can you see any sold? How would leave that many in one address?
Bitcoin bin called a scream pyramid scheme from day one.

Do you even know what pyramid scheme is? dumb ass?
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July 10, 2015, 03:32:57 PM
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As per a video posted on 8btc. A "direct sales" team is promoting the litecoin nation-wide.
http://8btc.com/thread-20406-1-1.html


It has been confirmed by Zhao Dong, a major miner& dealer in China.


is there any translate video online? Does this really explain the LTC price explosion?

We should start learning the Chinese language, will be very useful for us to understand them

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July 10, 2015, 04:02:53 PM
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Just 5% of the total amount transferred to that account is still there. Seems like the Pyramid is about to collapse if there are no new 500 LTC transfer (which they wont when everybody is aware of this forum post and all the news in the blogs).

If you have Litecoins bought in the last days SELL THEM NOW, or you will be very upset in the next weeks...

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July 10, 2015, 04:23:36 PM
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1- Ponzy schemes dont pump and dump, they keep on pumping thil the colapse.

2- there are now 2 new entries of 500 ltc eatch in that wallet

3- the whitdrawls from that wallet have happned before if you see the june month

4- the fall off the price its because people wo have ltc think tha its a pump and dum, so they sell, or switch to BTC

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July 10, 2015, 04:31:44 PM
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2- there are now 2 new entries of 500 ltc eatch in that wallet

2 in the latest 10 hours. Look at yesterday and past days... More than 20 per hour. This Ponzi is dead, when they decide to liquidate the rest of their LTC assets it will be over.

PS: Don't look just at the BTC/LTC pair, they will sell LTCs into other currencies where possible. They will try to keep the BTC/LTC as high as possible until it's too late so don't expect big sell offs in BTC/LTC in the next hours. You read it here first.

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July 10, 2015, 05:02:13 PM
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no, they where made in the past 4 hours, the 500 ltyc amounts dont came directly from the clients, they are store in wallets then they are transfer two this one. if you see the mouth of june and may, you will see that whats happning now its exactly what happend then. the diference is that people just realy the ponzy scheme now. If you track the wallet you will see tha the transfer for this wallet begin in april.
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July 10, 2015, 05:10:24 PM
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but "he" needs at least 1mio LTC to move the Price further downn (1mio~ = 0.010 move)
so this 500 ltc dude is just a hype

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July 10, 2015, 05:13:58 PM
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1- Ponzy schemes dont pump and dump, they keep on pumping thil the colapse.

2- there are now 2 new entries of 500 ltc eatch in that wallet

3- the whitdrawls from that wallet have happned before if you see the june month

4- the fall off the price its because people wo have ltc think tha its a pump and dum, so they sell, or switch to BTC


5- 79.6% of volume is on finx and btce  

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July 10, 2015, 05:24:59 PM
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2- there are now 2 new entries of 500 ltc eatch in that wallet

2 in the latest 10 hours. Look at yesterday and past days... More than 20 per hour. This Ponzi is dead, when they decide to liquidate the rest of their LTC assets it will be over.

PS: Don't look just at the BTC/LTC pair, they will sell LTCs into other currencies where possible. They will try to keep the BTC/LTC as high as possible until it's too late so don't expect big sell offs in BTC/LTC in the next hours. You read it here first.

6/13/2015 6:39:49 PM (UTC)   LVW9rw6qQn1JrZVLAhneQzm8ZmhELpznmH  see tx  - 30,000 LTC
6/13/2015 6:39:49 PM (UTC)   LVW9rw6qQn1JrZVLAhneQzm8ZmhELpznmH  see tx  - 20,000 LTC
6/13/2015 6:39:49 PM (UTC)   LVW9rw6qQn1JrZVLAhneQzm8ZmhELpznmH  see tx  - 30,000 LTC
6/13/2015 6:33:11 PM (UTC)   LVW9rw6qQn1JrZVLAhneQzm8ZmhELpznmH  see tx  - 20,000 LTC
6/13/2015 4:22:27 PM (UTC)   LVW9rw6qQn1JrZVLAhneQzm8ZmhELpznmH  see tx  - 20,000 LTC
6/13/2015 4:22:27 PM (UTC)   LVW9rw6qQn1JrZVLAhneQzm8ZmhELpznmH  see tx  - 25,500 LTC
6/13/2015 4:22:27 PM (UTC)   LVW9rw6qQn1JrZVLAhneQzm8ZmhELpznmH  see tx  - 20,000 LTC


it happend in june
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10 June 2015 - 10 July 2015 in relation to Bitcoin

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damn that's nuts!

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July 10, 2015, 07:47:44 PM
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2- there are now 2 new entries of 500 ltc eatch in that wallet

2 in the latest 10 hours. Look at yesterday and past days... More than 20 per hour. This Ponzi is dead, when they decide to liquidate the rest of their LTC assets it will be over.

PS: Don't look just at the BTC/LTC pair, they will sell LTCs into other currencies where possible. They will try to keep the BTC/LTC as high as possible until it's too late so don't expect big sell offs in BTC/LTC in the next hours. You read it here first.

6/13/2015 6:39:49 PM (UTC)   LVW9rw6qQn1JrZVLAhneQzm8ZmhELpznmH  see tx  - 30,000 LTC
6/13/2015 6:39:49 PM (UTC)   LVW9rw6qQn1JrZVLAhneQzm8ZmhELpznmH  see tx  - 20,000 LTC
6/13/2015 6:39:49 PM (UTC)   LVW9rw6qQn1JrZVLAhneQzm8ZmhELpznmH  see tx  - 30,000 LTC
6/13/2015 6:33:11 PM (UTC)   LVW9rw6qQn1JrZVLAhneQzm8ZmhELpznmH  see tx  - 20,000 LTC
6/13/2015 4:22:27 PM (UTC)   LVW9rw6qQn1JrZVLAhneQzm8ZmhELpznmH  see tx  - 20,000 LTC
6/13/2015 4:22:27 PM (UTC)   LVW9rw6qQn1JrZVLAhneQzm8ZmhELpznmH  see tx  - 25,500 LTC
6/13/2015 4:22:27 PM (UTC)   LVW9rw6qQn1JrZVLAhneQzm8ZmhELpznmH  see tx  - 20,000 LTC


it happend in june


The dump last night dwarfs this though



Lets just hope that wallet keeps getting the 500/LTC or else this pump might really be over




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July 10, 2015, 10:01:16 PM
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As per a video posted on 8btc. A "direct sales" team is promoting the litecoin nation-wide.
http://8btc.com/thread-20406-1-1.html
Here is the eagerly awaited transcript of what is actually said in the video. Translation was done by bitcointalk member polychenko (you can Donate BTC to him at 1NBBuD3N89sRLYgG8HvURUvVPzGEgiaT8a)

Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVsWQa9qKnk

Transcript:
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Hands up the first time you’ve seen me here – old friends let’s welcome the new friends. [other repetitive introductory stuff].
4 days ago I traveling from Beijing to Dalian then I stayed for 1 day, then went to Shenyang.
And then I stayed there for 2 days for 2 conferences – with 2 teams there.
Then I went to Anshan. I then had a talk in Anshan then drove here [?]. This is my one week schedule.
But one thing is similar is that for example in Dalian, after the conference, the market had 600 more bookings!
In Beijing that team asked us to go back there for another conference.
I don’t like the Beijing people – too proud of themselves, don’t like other province people.
Because of that we booked a hotel which is just next to the government – only ambassadors live there.
From the first meeting, they are all relatives of Xi Jinping etc. [Chinese President!]
Some people say they are from the finance department of the main government.
I did think ‘I can’t do anything for this market’. The second day another good quality team came.
First they only sent less important people, then they realized it’s a good opportunity so sent the team leaders.
5 people in a team – each one gives 60 transactions.
Also they said they want to start the main marketing in July.
Only these few days when in north east china, and they kept telling us ‘come back to Beijing’ for more collaboration. [to make the scheme bigger]
From above, you can see that Litecoin is very popular with a big market there.
On 17th April when this company registered in china I was involved in planning.
Some people can earn around 100 000 within 1 day, but others work 10 years and earn 100 000, depends on the speed.
So I came out from home 17th April and  drove for miles, and I haven’t been back home since. The first 28 days for me. [clapping]
I used around 10 days to have another round in these markets – it’s my second time to Panjin[sp?]
I got 200 bookings, each is 500 litecoins. How much is that? [end]
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July 11, 2015, 05:09:41 AM
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sounds like a pyramid scheme. He's saying that some people doing whatever (probably investing in him) is getting 4000 LTCs a day as a reward

Well: given the recent plummet, it now looks like a pyramid scheme that's collapsed...

I don't think so, it seems that someone who had a shitload of litecoins took advantage of the situation and cashed out, and this may actually help the pyramid scheme, as now it's cheaper to get in, in fiat I mean.

I think it's impressive that a scheme like this can drive the price up so much.


What? It looks like the pyrimid schemer himself sold all his LTC

https://coinplorer.com/LTC/Addresses/34Ae29qWAhGGTw3cSNkPygiwsgKbbCatou



NO - this is not the case (sold or dumped his LTC)

If you use a better block explorer like

http://ltc.blockr.io/address/info/34Ae29qWAhGGTw3cSNkPygiwsgKbbCatou

Every recent withdrawal from the above address is still retained in the address it was sent to - nothing spent and nothing dumped from these receiving addresses "recently" - so far.  Takes a while but you can work through the list and see for yourself.

8.6m has entered the LTC address above - 400k is retained here (but most of it its STILL RETAINED in the addresses it was set to from 34Ae29qWAhGGTw3cSNkPygiwsgKbbCatou).

Very puzzling indeed.

Of course could be dumped from earlier withdrawals - would need someone to wade through months of transactions to check but this is highly likely.

So what next.  This player obviously holds a huge stack of LTC still.

Did he dump to start the earning scheme over again - that would be a smart move.

Did somebody else dump on him to ruin his earning scheme?  Unlikely considering the scale - but certainly possible.

My pick is that this scheme dumped on itself using old LTC. A dump of old LTC deposits of 1m and at most 2m would achieve yesterdays results.  That still leaves them with at least 6m LTC (and considering the vast amount they hold they probably only dumped a small proportion to get the ball rolling - at the highest prices - after that panic selling by the masses would fire the drop we had - any slowing in sell-off would be quickly reignited by a few more sales from the scheme) - so the whole climb up the ladder and profit to its subscribers can repeat.

Scheme likely now re-buying LTC slowly with BTC profits (trying not to start a run up in price) - the investors will be sitting pretty if the scheme does not run off with funds!  Its just a new twist to this type of scheme and quite ingenious.

What is worrying is that this scheme I suspect holds a controlling stake in LTC - they can do what they want to it by sheer weight - a megawhale.

Time will tell

Is anyone in this investment scheme on this forum?  Is the scheme still paying? That would be interesting. I would not mind betting that a new deposit address has been (or will be) started for the scheme.

My bets are firmly on a flat LTC price for maybe a week (as the scheme vacuums up the many willing sellers) - then a fairly quick rise to beyond USD 8 as the scheme takes off again.

If they are not paying out to their investors likely game over - but don't forget that they still hold significant LTC and its in their interest for that price to rise again - with or without their investors and continuing deposits.


                                                   
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