Fury X mining performance

[GingerAle]

Thanks for posting! This definitely helps inform my next purchase. I've been debating going the AMD route for a new monero rig. So at current release, it seems that for whatever reason the fury performs as well as the 290x.

[Claymore]

>As i said before, with those low temps, i know this also could go a lot faster. Energy usage confirmed that.

The bottleneck of CryptoNight PoW algo is that it requires loading small data blocks from random memory addresses, a lot of times. Because addresses are random, memory cache is useless. You see low temps because GPU core does not work all the time, most time it waits data from GPU memory due its latency. And it cannot be optimized because the algo was designed to use memory latency to be asic-resistant. Fury X has 4096 bit memory bandwidth, but it is useless for this algo because big bandwidth is not related to memory latency.

[pallas]

>As i said before, with those low temps, i know this also could go a lot faster. Energy usage confirmed that.

The bottleneck of CryptoNight PoW algo is that it requires loading small data blocks from random memory addresses, a lot of times. Because addresses are random, memory cache is useless. You see low temps because GPU core does not work all the time, most time it waits data from GPU memory due its latency. And it cannot be optimized because the algo was designed to use memory latency to be asic-resistant. Fury X has 4096 bit memory bandwidth, but it is useless for this algo because big bandwidth is not related to memory latency.

same for lyra2re (it looks like fury x performance is worse than 280x), but they are changing the algo (at least for vertcoin) in order to be more gpu-friendly, so that might change.

[Eliovp]

Thanks for posting! This definitely helps inform my next purchase. I've been debating going the AMD route for a new monero rig. So at current release, it seems that for whatever reason the fury performs as well as the 290x.

You're very welcome!

>As i said before, with those low temps, i know this also could go a lot faster. Energy usage confirmed that.

The bottleneck of CryptoNight PoW algo is that it requires loading small data blocks from random memory addresses, a lot of times. Because addresses are random, memory cache is useless. You see low temps because GPU core does not work all the time, most time it waits data from GPU memory due its latency. And it cannot be optimized because the algo was designed to use memory latency to be asic-resistant. Fury X has 4096 bit memory bandwidth, but it is useless for this algo because big bandwidth is not related to memory latency.

It's useless for most algo's..
But again, everything was at stock settings, i have been playing around with the core engine and was able to push it to 1190 without a problem. After that it started to fail, temperatures were still very low though, if i was on windows i could play with voltage as it's possible with Afterburner.

I'm not experienced enough to optimize any algo to be Fury X friendly But i know someone who is and will be playing with it in the next weeks.
I'm curious about the results!

>As i said before, with those low temps, i know this also could go a lot faster. Energy usage confirmed that.

The bottleneck of CryptoNight PoW algo is that it requires loading small data blocks from random memory addresses, a lot of times. Because addresses are random, memory cache is useless. You see low temps because GPU core does not work all the time, most time it waits data from GPU memory due its latency. And it cannot be optimized because the algo was designed to use memory latency to be asic-resistant. Fury X has 4096 bit memory bandwidth, but it is useless for this algo because big bandwidth is not related to memory latency.

same for lyra2re (it looks like fury x performance is worse than 280x), but they are changing the algo (at least for vertcoin) in order to be more gpu-friendly, so that might change.

Lyra2re performance is worse than a 280x you mean? i haven't tested that algo "yet".. so i don't know. I ignored Cryptomining blog results because most of them aren't correct compared to my results.

Regarding Cryptonote, seeing the results with other cards (stock settings) the fury beats them all, not by much, but it's still the fastest it seems


Greetings

[Eliovp]

>As i said before, with those low temps, i know this also could go a lot faster. Energy usage confirmed that.

The bottleneck of CryptoNight PoW algo is that it requires loading small data blocks from random memory addresses, a lot of times. Because addresses are random, memory cache is useless. You see low temps because GPU core does not work all the time, most time it waits data from GPU memory due its latency. And it cannot be optimized because the algo was designed to use memory latency to be asic-resistant. Fury X has 4096 bit memory bandwidth, but it is useless for this algo because big bandwidth is not related to memory latency.

same for lyra2re (it looks like fury x performance is worse than 280x), but they are changing the algo (at least for vertcoin) in order to be more gpu-friendly, so that might change.

Did a quick Lyra2re test with stock settings and open source kernel.

Dunno where that cryptoblog got their results.. but they're way off..

here are my results.



Almost 1mhz. That's a serious difference than the 430Kh Cryptoblog wrote...

Energy usage




@Pallas, tried to run your binary but that froze up my rig each time.
it doesn't freeze up when doing that for Quark or any other algo.

Greetings

[pallas]

It is opensource now, you don't need to use the binary...

[Eliovp]

It is opensource now, you don't need to use the binary...

Oh lol, didn't know that will do some more testing later then

[MehZhure]

I keep seeing people talk about "non-opens source" mining software.  Where can we purchase it?  I have tried to find it, but all I have found is open source software.

[sp_]

I keep seeing people talk about "non-opens source" mining software.  Where can we purchase it?  I have tried to find it, but all I have found is open source software.

Google wolf0. He has made a neoscrypt kernal that is 300% faster than the opensource kernal. I am not sure he will sell it though because some of the kernals have been stolen and distributed on the internet for free.
With wolf0's code, a single 290x will outperform 2 furyx mining neoscrypt. That's why sharks with 1000+ gpu's are willing to pay alot of BTC to keep the kernals private.

[lawrencelyl]

I keep seeing people talk about "non-opens source" mining software.  Where can we purchase it?  I have tried to find it, but all I have found is open source software.

Google wolf0. He has made a neoscrypt kernal that is 300% faster than the opensource kernal. I am not sure he will sell it though because some of the kernals have been stolen and distributed on the internet for free.
With wolf0's code, a single 290x will outperform 2 furyx mining neoscrypt. That's why sharks with 1000+ gpu's are willing to pay alot of BTC to keep the kernals private.

So is there any private miner that can boost neoscrypt to >200% on Nvidia?

[MehZhure]

I keep seeing people talk about "non-opens source" mining software.  Where can we purchase it?  I have tried to find it, but all I have found is open source software.

Google wolf0. He has made a neoscrypt kernal that is 300% faster than the opensource kernal. I am not sure he will sell it though because some of the kernals have been stolen and distributed on the internet for free.
With wolf0's code, a single 290x will outperform 2 furyx mining neoscrypt. That's why sharks with 1000+ gpu's are willing to pay alot of BTC to keep the kernals private.

Good point.  It would be very difficult, if not impossible, to make enough money selling it, before some jerk decided it needed to be free to everyone, and post it forums for everyone to have.  Being a programmer, I completely sympathize with that.  And I don't have a fat wad of cash sitting around to pay for something like that.  It is looking more and more like I am going to have to add mining software development to my to-do list.

[adaseb]

Man I didn't even know AMD released new GPUs. However looking at the prices, it seems that it would take around 600 days or so to break-even on these GPUs alone (not including mobo, PSUs, and electrcity costs), im surprised people are still buying GPUs for mining.

[pallas]

Man I didn't even know AMD released new GPUs. However looking at the prices, it seems that it would take around 600 days or so to break-even on these GPUs alone (not including mobo, PSUs, and electrcity costs), im surprised people are still buying GPUs for mining.

you must take resell price into account.
some cards can be sold at 90% buy price.

[Eliovp]

Did some tests on Quark this time.

hitting a stable 23.5 Mhz @ 820 Watt(3 fury's)
Very sure they can still go higher.


Big thx to Wolf0 for helping out !

Screenshot

[Wexlike]

The Fury (non-X, air-cooled with less CUs), gets ~20.5MH/s on Quark (nsfw): https://ottrbutt.com/miner/quarkwolf-07282015.png

offtopic: wolf, something reminded me of you last weekend.   

[sp_]

The Fury (non-X, air-cooled with less CUs), gets ~20.5MH/s on Quark (nsfw): https://ottrbutt.com/miner/quarkwolf-07282015.png

How fast is the opensource miner?

[davidrentaobition]

everyone forget quark algo, big hashs made from FPGE miner. i shutdown miner today and holiday fews day. profits very low now. 

[sp_]

everyone forget quark algo, big hashs made from FPGE miner. i shutdown miner today and holiday fews day. profits very low now. 

What is a FPGE miner?  '

Sharkcoin is taking a dip, and the profitability is down.

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/sharkcoin/

[davidrentaobition]

everyone forget quark algo, big hashs made from FPGE miner. i shutdown miner today and holiday fews day. profits very low now. 

What is a FPGE miner?  '

Sharkcoin is taking a dip, and the profitability is down.

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/sharkcoin/

like integrated circuit. i know they are running few months(single chip using around 60watts ）. i cannot talking more information, sorry. bcz it's business to someone. i hold a lots of GPU miners in my space, i working building project after few month then i will coming back to mining, and consider mining new aglo coins after.

[pallas]

everyone forget quark algo, big hashs made from FPGE miner. i shutdown miner today and holiday fews day. profits very low now. 

What is a FPGE miner?  '

Sharkcoin is taking a dip, and the profitability is down.

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/sharkcoin/

like integrated circuit. i know they are running few months(single chip using around 60watts ）. i cannot talking more information, sorry. bcz it's business to someone. i hold a lots of GPU miners in my space, i working building project after few month then i will coming back to mining, and consider mining new aglo coins after.

maybe you mean FPGA