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[AdamWhite]

My take is that the real reason why Dark was renamed to Dash was to distance itself from the insta-mined coins story as well as other shady things that happened near its release in 2014.

My take is you will choose to believe whatever happens to suit your agenda at any given time.

Still waiting for your intervention in the Axiom thread btw. C'mon now, it had ninja launch, instamine amplified with huge instaPoS, instantly on exchanges, dev abandoned the project soon after. Should get your altruistic scam buster juices flowing.

And when you're done with Axiom, I have another one for you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1180846.0;all

I admire your scam-busting attitude! The logical way to do it with limited resources would be to focus on the biggest scams by market cap (Xcoin/Darkcoin/DASH) and work your way down.

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[hthsco]

I like DASH. I love DASH. 

[RenegadeMan]

Very much appreciate your work here Sir Alpha_goy. Even if I don't agree with all your assessments, you're adding considerable substance and value to the consideration of these two alts that (as you've pointed out) are so important to what's going on in crypto in general. Thanks.

[pilscoop]

Where can I trade LTC and DASH?

[AdamWhite]

I couldn't agree more.

I think you need to follow your own advice though and start with the biggest scams by market cap and work your way down.

Indeed. But since this is the altcoin section of Bitcointalk, let's stick to cryptocurrencies for now.

[illodin]

My take is that the real reason why Dark was renamed to Dash was to distance itself from the insta-mined coins story as well as other shady things that happened near its release in 2014.

My take is you will choose to believe whatever happens to suit your agenda at any given time.

Still waiting for your intervention in the Axiom thread btw. C'mon now, it had ninja launch, instamine amplified with huge instaPoS, instantly on exchanges, dev abandoned the project soon after. Should get your altruistic scam buster juices flowing.

And when you're done with Axiom, I have another one for you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1180846.0;all

I admire your scam-busting attitude! The logical way to do it with limited resources would be to focus on the biggest scams by market cap (Xcoin/Darkcoin/DASH) and work your way down.

You should know the background before opening your mouth. Smoothie claimed the price of DASH didn't have any bearing on his decision to attack it ("price has nothing to do with it") and implied it was for altruistic reasons boasting his other "scam busting" ventures (RealSolid/Coinhunter when BTC was $5 and SLC $0.01) as a reference for not caring about the price.

[eduffield]

There's lot's of false information rolling around this thread  

Here's an interview that clarifies the instamine and what happened: https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118
TLDR: The instamine was a bug that turned into a feature, it's also why we're continuing to be a success.

If you want to learn about the technology, watch the video series. (there's a hidden message in the series somewhere that no one has found  )

https://www.dashpay.io/dash-video-series/

[onemorexmr]

There's lot's of false information rolling around this thread 

Here's an interview that clarifies the instamine and what happened: https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118
TLDR: The instamine was a bug that turned into a feature, it's also why we're continuing to be a success.

If you want to learn about the technology, watch the video series. (there's a hidden message for investors in the series somewhere that no one has found  )

https://www.dashpay.io/dash-video-series/

if i where you i'd also say that the instamine is now a feature... at least you got a huge amount of coins that way

[eduffield]

There's lot's of false information rolling around this thread  

Here's an interview that clarifies the instamine and what happened: https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118
TLDR: The instamine was a bug that turned into a feature, it's also why we're continuing to be a success.

If you want to learn about the technology, watch the video series. (there's a hidden message in the series somewhere that no one has found  )

https://www.dashpay.io/dash-video-series/

if i where you i'd also say that the instamine is now a feature... at least you got a huge amount of coins that way

I'm going to venture a guess that you either read at 1000wpm or you didn't read that article.

[onemorexmr]

There's lot's of false information rolling around this thread 

Here's an interview that clarifies the instamine and what happened: https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118
TLDR: The instamine was a bug that turned into a feature, it's also why we're continuing to be a success.

If you want to learn about the technology, watch the video series. (there's a hidden message in the series somewhere that no one has found  )

https://www.dashpay.io/dash-video-series/

if i where you i'd also say that the instamine is now a feature... at least you got a huge amount of coins that way

I'm going to venture a guess that you either read at 1000wpm or you didn't read that article.

i was there in the first days of xcoin and i dont need an article to explain to me what happend back then

[qwizzie]

There's lot's of false information rolling around this thread  

Here's an interview that clarifies the instamine and what happened: https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118
TLDR: The instamine was a bug that turned into a feature, it's also why we're continuing to be a success.

If you want to learn about the technology, watch the video series. (there's a hidden message in the series somewhere that no one has found  )

https://www.dashpay.io/dash-video-series/

damn, i already watched them (all of them) and i didnt find any hidden message. Please dont tell me we are suppose to watch those video's backwards in order
to reveal any hidden messages ?  

[AdamWhite]

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[qwizzie]

There's lot's of false information rolling around this thread  

Here's an interview that clarifies the instamine and what happened: https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118
TLDR: The instamine was a bug that turned into a feature, it's also why we're continuing to be a success.

If you want to learn about the technology, watch the video series. (there's a hidden message in the series somewhere that no one has found  )

https://www.dashpay.io/dash-video-series/

if i where you i'd also say that the instamine is now a feature... at least you got a huge amount of coins that way

I'm going to venture a guess that you either read at 1000wpm or you didn't read that article.

I have a confession to make, even i didnt read your mentioned interview as i incorrectly assumed it directed to the birth of darkcoin and
wouldnt contain information i didnt read already. I just now clicked your link and realised it does contain a lot of new information.
Thanks for the link.  

[qwizzie]

TLDR: The instamine was a bug that turned into a feature

                     
 

In regards to this: https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

What is your response to this:

If you don’t like that it was an instamine, that’s fine, go invest in something else.

eh, i think he already replied with a K, so i guess Adam is okay with it.

[eduffield]

So eduffield says the instamine wasn't a scam, i guess that's all the proof I need!  

What do you expect, that's he'll admit it?

Was the instamine a scam? "Definitely not"

Ok now it insta crashes when I type "setgenerate true".

Time to go to bed and try again next week?

Yeah, let's do that. I obviously need to do some more testing. Thanks everyone!

Best thing to do I guess. Please, confirm you won't be launching after some minutes/hours even if you fix it, and the sooner would be tomorrow, thanks.

Definitely not. I'll also follow up with this post when I do set a time.

Seeing a pattern?

Deceptive launch time, lack of windows wallets, the supposed "bug" that instamined over 23% of the total coins in circulation in 8 hours - anyone with brain sees exactly what happened here.

In regards to this: https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

What is your response to this:

If you don’t like that it was an instamine, that’s fine, go invest in something else.

If you don't like hearing criticism about your oops!stamined scamcoin, that's fine, go click on another thread.

I'm going to venture a guess. You bought the original hype about Darkcoin when it was $12-15 (when we had no technology and just ideas!), then it fell to $5 and you were looking for something to blame and learned about the instamine? You've been waiting for months for it to collapse and it's not (real next-gen technology, really amazing 50+ member team, 10000+ hours of work has been put into this project in the last 1.5 years). What are you going to do when you finally realize it's not a scam, then it takes off and no one cares about the instamine because the technology is whats important?

The whole instamine is over blown because every coin that's even moderately successful has founders with >5%. Dash is on the low end, our founders have way less coins than the Bitcoin devs, Ripple, etc. Bitcoin for example was unknown with a handful of miners for nearly 1-2 years, they mined 6 million coins during that time. Satoshi alone was thought to have 10%. Our entire team combined has less than 10% of the supply (current supply, not total). So what?

What about corporations? They all start out with "Instamines". Does that make every corporation in history a scam?

[generalizethis]

So eduffield says the instamine wasn't a scam, i guess that's all the proof I need!  

What do you expect, that's he'll admit it?

Was the instamine a scam? "Definitely not"

Ok now it insta crashes when I type "setgenerate true".

Time to go to bed and try again next week?

Yeah, let's do that. I obviously need to do some more testing. Thanks everyone!

Best thing to do I guess. Please, confirm you won't be launching after some minutes/hours even if you fix it, and the sooner would be tomorrow, thanks.

Definitely not. I'll also follow up with this post when I do set a time.

Seeing a pattern?

Deceptive launch time, lack of windows wallets, the supposed "bug" that instamined over 23% of the total coins in circulation in 8 hours - anyone with brain sees exactly what happened here.

In regards to this: https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

What is your response to this:

If you don’t like that it was an instamine, that’s fine, go invest in something else.

If you don't like hearing criticism about your oops!stamined scamcoin, that's fine, go click on another thread.

I'm going to venture a guess. You bought the original hype about Darkcoin when it was $12-15 (when we had no technology and just ideas!), then it fell to $5 and you were looking for something to blame and learned about the instamine? You've been waiting for months for it to collapse and it's not, because now that we have REAL technology that works. What are you going to do when you finally realize it's not a scam and no one cares about the instamine because the technology is whats important?

The whole instamine is over blown because every coin that's even moderately successful has founders with >5%. Dash is on the low end, our founders have way less coins than the Bitcoin devs, Ripple, etc. Bitcoin for example was unknown with a handful of miners for nearly 1-2 years, they mined 6 million coins during that time. Satoshi alone was thought to have 10%. Our entire team combined has less than 10% of the supply (current supply, not total). So what?

What about corporations? They all start out with "Instamines". Does that make every corporation in history a scam?

Are you saying your coin was as fairly launched as Bitcoin? Also, didn't you realize that not relaunching after the accidental mine would forever taint your launch with the possibility of insider manipulation? In my estimation, you either failed to see the obvious or you are currently misleading people. Either way, it's a losing proposition for an investor who values quality leadership.

[illodin]

Either way, it's a losing proposition for an investor who values quality leadership.

Yes, it's terrible to invest in a project where the leader makes decisions that benefit the investors.

[eduffield]

Are you saying your coin was as fairly launched as Bitcoin? Also, didn't you realize that not relaunching after the accidental mine would forever taint your launch with the possibility of insider manipulation? In my estimation, you either failed to see the obvious or you are currently misleading people. Either way, it's a losing proposition for an investor who values quality leadership.

Is the Dash distribution currently better than Bitcoins on July, 1 2010 (1.5 years after launch)? YES! Can you prove otherwise?

There is no such thing as a fair distribution, Bitcoin, Litecoin, etc... they ALL have declining supply curves. That is mathematically defined unfair distribution, where most of the coins are issued up front. Life is unfair, you can't always catch a coin when it launches and make a bunch of money off of it.

The community should support competition in the space and all projects where there is a lot of effort. We need more ideas in this space, not less. If Bitcoin had it's way, all of our "silly projects" would be killed off and it would be a monopoly in the space, the only game in town. This isn't healthy for a free market, we should be exploring as many new ideas as possible, to try and find the real solutions, the ones the Bitcoin devs don't care to look into (like decentralized governance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2bx0quM-h0 and virtual corporations so that we could have a truly decentralized ecosystem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEJKZjTx9Bg)

[generalizethis]

Are you saying your coin was as fairly launched as Bitcoin? Also, didn't you realize that not relaunching after the accidental mine would forever taint your launch with the possibility of insider manipulation? In my estimation, you either failed to see the obvious or you are currently misleading people. Either way, it's a losing proposition for an investor who values quality leadership.

Is the Dash distribution currently better than Bitcoins on July, 1 2010 (1.5 years after launch)? YES! Can you prove otherwise?

That's eluding the questions with a question.

Again,

Are you saying your coin was as fairly launched as Bitcoin? Also, didn't you realize that not relaunching after the accidental mine would forever taint your launch with the possibility of insider manipulation? In my estimation, you either failed to see the obvious or you are currently misleading people. Either way, it's a losing proposition for an investor who values quality leadership.

[eduffield]

Are you saying your coin was as fairly launched as Bitcoin?

Yes, it was launched as fair as Bitcoin. It was launched with prior notice and a completely public source code. Bugs or no bugs, it was completely transparent.

Also, didn't you realize that not relaunching after the accidental mine would forever taint your launch with the possibility of insider manipulation?[/b] In my estimation, you either failed to see the obvious or you are currently misleading people. Either way, it's a losing proposition for an investor who values quality leadership.

Insider manipulation? Watch my video here about Virtual Corporations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEJKZjTx9Bg

This is the structure that stops that from being a problem. People that have shares from the instamine or that are issued through the setup of a virtual corporation will have to sign some bylaws, which will make that type of behavior impossible. The founders need incentives, but they also need rules, which is what we're working on.

As for tainting the coin forever? All coins have instamines, some of them are slower than others. That's the point. Any coin that is even moderately successful has founders with more than 5% of the supply. That's called incentivizing the founders, it's required.

In the end the ONLY point of a fair launch is for distribution. So now answer my question:

Is the Dash distribution currently better than Bitcoins on July, 1 2010 (1.5 years after launch)?