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[slush]

Btw from your description it looks like you tried to invent a wheel, but you actualy invented square.

[Greee]

Btw from your description it looks like you tried to invent a wheel, but you actualy invented square.

Thank you for this opinion , i'm still working on this idea and i`m very close to finish it , hopefully to make it right.

[jjiimm_64]

grabs popcorn

[Greee]

grabs popcorn

)) Thanks for the support.

[organofcorti]

Well this is your opinion , i wish and i`m sure that it cant be exploited , it will have at the base miner speed calculated every 10 minutes.

......


Anyway there are some theory its a little more complicated i`l present the full formula after i`l implement it and its extra hopping prof.

How confident are you? Are you willing to pay btc if someone can find a way to hop your method and report it to you? Let me know and I'll start warming my keyboard.

[Greee]

Well this is your opinion , i wish and i`m sure that it cant be exploited , it will have at the base miner speed calculated every 10 minutes.

......


Anyway there are some theory its a little more complicated i`l present the full formula after i`l implement it and its extra hopping prof.

How confident are you? Are you willing to pay btc if someone can find a way to hop your method and report it to you? Let me know and I'll start warming my keyboard.

Your est reward will drop down seriously if u disconnect from pool , i`l let u know when u can start.

[organofcorti]

Well this is your opinion , i wish and i`m sure that it cant be exploited , it will have at the base miner speed calculated every 10 minutes.

......


Anyway there are some theory its a little more complicated i`l present the full formula after i`l implement it and its extra hopping prof.

How confident are you? Are you willing to pay btc if someone can find a way to hop your method and report it to you? Let me know and I'll start warming my keyboard.

Your est reward will drop down seriously if u disconnect from pool , i`l let u know when u can start.

I don't mine. I don't need to mine in order to find a way to exploit a reward method. I'm asking if you're willing to pay me to find out if your reward method is exploitable and report any exploits I find. I'm also asking you to offer sum of btc payable if I do find an exploit.

How much you offer me to do this will be a indication of how confident you are in your reward method, and how confident full time miners should be that they are being paid fairly.

[Greee]

Well this is your opinion , i wish and i`m sure that it cant be exploited , it will have at the base miner speed calculated every 10 minutes.

......


Anyway there are some theory its a little more complicated i`l present the full formula after i`l implement it and its extra hopping prof.

How confident are you? Are you willing to pay btc if someone can find a way to hop your method and report it to you? Let me know and I'll start warming my keyboard.

Your est reward will drop down seriously if u disconnect from pool , i`l let u know when u can start.

I don't mine. I don't need to mine in order to find a way to exploit a reward method. I'm asking if you're willing to pay me to find out if your reward method is exploitable and report any exploits I find. I'm also asking you to offer sum of btc payable if I do find an exploit.

How much you offer me to do this will be a indication of how confident you are in your reward method, and how confident full time miners should be that they are being paid fairly.

I`m confident because all simulations go well , it`s use same logic as slush`s pool but with other formula , we will see it in action in a few hours and yes full time miners will be paid 101% fairly.

[organofcorti]

Well this is your opinion , i wish and i`m sure that it cant be exploited , it will have at the base miner speed calculated every 10 minutes.

......


Anyway there are some theory its a little more complicated i`l present the full formula after i`l implement it and its extra hopping prof.

How confident are you? Are you willing to pay btc if someone can find a way to hop your method and report it to you? Let me know and I'll start warming my keyboard.

Your est reward will drop down seriously if u disconnect from pool , i`l let u know when u can start.

I don't mine. I don't need to mine in order to find a way to exploit a reward method. I'm asking if you're willing to pay me to find out if your reward method is exploitable and report any exploits I find. I'm also asking you to offer sum of btc payable if I do find an exploit.

How much you offer me to do this will be a indication of how confident you are in your reward method, and how confident full time miners should be that they are being paid fairly.

I`m confident because all simulations go well , it`s use same logic as slush`s pool but with other formula , we will see it in action in a few hours and yes full time miners will be paid 101% fairly.

So that's a "No", then? You're confident enough to go online with your reward method but not confident enough to see if someone can break it?


Full time miners please take note.


edit: because I misplaced the damn quotes!

edit2: You do know slush's reward method is exploitable, and he wants to change to a non-exploitable reward method? You know this, right?

[Inaba]

[Greee]

Well this is your opinion , i wish and i`m sure that it cant be exploited , it will have at the base miner speed calculated every 10 minutes.

......


Anyway there are some theory its a little more complicated i`l present the full formula after i`l implement it and its extra hopping prof.

How confident are you? Are you willing to pay btc if someone can find a way to hop your method and report it to you? Let me know and I'll start warming my keyboard.

Your est reward will drop down seriously if u disconnect from pool , i`l let u know when u can start.

I don't mine. I don't need to mine in order to find a way to exploit a reward method. I'm asking if you're willing to pay me to find out if your reward method is exploitable and report any exploits I find. I'm also asking you to offer sum of btc payable if I do find an exploit.

How much you offer me to do this will be a indication of how confident you are in your reward method, and how confident full time miners should be that they are being paid fairly.

I`m confident because all simulations go well , it`s use same logic as slush`s pool but with other formula , we will see it in action in a few hours and yes full time miners will be paid 101% fairly.

So that's a "No", then? You're confident enough to go online with your reward method but not confident enough to see if someone can break it?


Full time miners please take note.


edit: because I misplaced the damn quotes!

edit2: You do know slush's reward method is exploitable, and he wants to change to a non-exploitable reward method? You know this, right?

Are you argue with me?

We or i`m not a 12 years old kid, i like to create/build not to debate something... So please calm down , i`m confident that will be non-exploitable u need 100% answer?

Miners , answer only for "organofcorti": YES will be non-exploitable.

Please again let the miners decide that after will be live.

Thank you.

[slush]

What a waste of effort...

[organofcorti]

Are you argue with me?

We or i`m not a 12 years old kid, i like to create/build not to debate something... So please calm down , i`m confident that will be non-exploitable u need 100% answer?

Miners , answer only for "organofcorti": YES will be non-exploitable.

Please again let the miners decide that after will be live.

Thank you.

Greee, this is not about arguments. It's about providing a reward method that is provably fair. Being able to prove a reward method is fair is not a matter of opinion.

In order to show miners that your reward method is fair you need to be able to prove it, not just present it as fait accompli.

edit: I can always get pool hoppers to pay for a method to exploit  your reward method. Just sayin'.

[Starlightbreaker]

sup.

oh, disconnect = massive reward drop? psh, that's easy.


Also, imagine if you have connection issues, that's gonna be fun.

[kano]

sup.

oh, disconnect = massive reward drop? psh, that's easy.
...

... and people were wondering what to do with the FPGAs once ASIC comes around

[Tittiez]

Are you argue with me?

We or i`m not a 12 years old kid, i like to create/build not to debate something... So please calm down , i`m confident that will be non-exploitable u need 100% answer?

Miners , answer only for "organofcorti": YES will be non-exploitable.

Please again let the miners decide that after will be live.

Thank you.

Hate to argue with you but, miners could just connect right when it records your hashrate, then disconnect after its recorded. Then reconnect 10 minutes later, then disconnect... etc etc. Full payout while only mining say 1 minute every 10.

Well actually, that depends on if your using the average hashrate over the last 10 minutes, or if you are using instantaneous hashrate.

[jjiimm_64]

Are you argue with me?

We or i`m not a 12 years old kid, i like to create/build not to debate something... So please calm down , i`m confident that will be non-exploitable u need 100% answer?

Miners , answer only for "organofcorti": YES will be non-exploitable.

Please again let the miners decide that after will be live.

Thank you.

Hate to argue with you but, miners could just connect right when it records your hashrate, then disconnect after its recorded. Then reconnect 10 minutes later, then disconnect... etc etc. Full payout while only mining say 1 minute every 10.

Well actually, that depends on if your using the average hashrate over the last 10 minutes, or if you are using instantaneous hashrate.

Not only that, but the fact is on very short rounds, the full time miners will not get 'their' full reward because other big miners will jump in and take a larger slice!!!

if you want hop-unfriendly .....use DGM

* jjiimm_64  goes back to popcorn

[Greee]

We have created a hooping proof formula, feel free to test it.

I will explain it in a few moments

[jjiimm_64]

We have created a hooping proof formula, feel free to test it.

I will explain it in a few moments

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[Greee]

... weird pm your ip to check some routes...