iGotSpots Scam Dev

[ButtCrack]

As far as I can see some guys are trying to steal his old gorillateeth and now complaining about it? He also mentioned that when he changed from gorillateeth to gorillbucks people were double claiming and then they dumped.

If you don't like him how about use your own head and create your own coin instead of stealing his gorillatetth?  

I don't own many gorillabucks so I could careless either way. I personally didn't think creating new coin was such a good idea....I hope anyone reading this would NEVER rename their own coin.

same goes for DASH too..I sold the moment it changed its name.

BTC doesn't need to change its name because there is no need to. You can make changes without creating new names and losing old investors.

Hey,

Spots created GorillaTeeth and Vary a month or two ago. Before that he got people to mail him 100$ to get old Bucks at 1$ per BUCK. MMXIV had been running for a year.

This is what their emission was by the time of the snapshot:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1059159.msg11739761#msg11739761

MMXIV
Total Supply at Snapshot: 12226978.97608400
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each MMXIV will yield 0.0204465878684343 GorillaBucks


TEETH
Total Supply at Snapshot: 397999.94617700
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each TEETH will yield 0.628140788463371 GorillaBucks


VARY
Total Supply at Snapshot: 110101.88922800
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each VARY will yield 2.270624071511595 GorillaBucks


BUCKS
Total Supply at Snapshot: 38831.43331300
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each BUCKS will yield 6.438083240061729 GorillaBucks

Its interesting to ask why he chose this model of distribution in the first place. Why not give each of the coins an equivalent weight determined by its market cap median for the last month or so. This would be fair.

This is my conjecture with facts thrown in for pattern recognition.

1. Spots bought a boat load of BALLS and 10K when they were at 1 sat.
2. Then had a great idea. "Lets merge this two and crunch them" <-
2a. Since he knew before hand he was going to do this he made sure to get his lorry full before he announced this.
3. The merge and crunch happen and he has many TEETH.
4. The exchange happened and he got about 20K TEETH, if i remembered correctly.
4a. But the poor guy had to pay from his own pocket some fees and stuff, because people are mean...
5. There was a problem with the staking formula because some people only staked for the 6480% blocks. And this diluted his big advantage.
6. He launches vary as a test chain (which gets in some exchanges despite being a "test").
  a. Vary rewards 1 coin per POW block.
  b. POW lasts until the bazillionth block.
  c. He asks people not to rent hashing power for this because its just a test chain.
  d. For the initial blocks the difficulty was extremely small ensuring someone with good hash power would get many blocks.
  e. The staking rewards SMALL blocks.
  f. There is not a block explorer despite this coin is traded on reputable exchanges.
7. Then he has the great idea of merging the four coins. Who do you think came out on top?
7a. But the poor guy had to pay from his own pocket some coins and stuff, because people are mean...

Not to mention the that time (that I noticed) when the TEETH chain went back about 1 or 2k blocks (it was 2 days worth I think).

You guys do understand that the one who controls the checkpoint server controls the chain, right? Decentralization, schmentralization.

Having said that lets address your accusations.

As far as I can see some guys are trying to steal his old gorillateeth and now complaining about it? He also mentioned that when he changed from gorillateeth to gorillbucks people were double claiming and then they dumped.

If you don't like him how about use your own head and create your own coin instead of stealing his gorillatetth?  

Oh my. Clueless much?

There is beauty in crypto. No, its not earning da big bucks.
The beauty lies in the fact that a bunch of guys who see some ego-maniacal little wannabe despot trying to control their money, they can say:
"No! That's what the banks are for." Do you even understand this?

I invested in Teeth and with spots always wanting the upper hand, I would lose big. Still I didn't give him a hard time. I just wanted to keep the TEETH chain moving, change its name and try to keep part of my "investment" (Yes, I am in the alts snakepit for the money too). 

First spots said it was OK, then he changed his mind and started to make threats about pulling his weight with the exchanges to not accept the spin-offs.
(I blame Vegas and his Monkey Boy Coin for it. No hard feelings though.  )

Then came the "Oh noze, poor me. I was scammed and had to pay triple the coins in existence because of this". And one of you guys had the brilliant idea of blaming the Spin-Off gang for it.

I asked spots to clear it up and he deleted my post.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108502.msg11887787#msg11887787

Yeah, I did not like that so, I sent this cutie to a bunch of guys (Beware, it has some 3rd Grader Humour inside) .
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108502.msg11892995#msg11892995

You got it too, but didn't understand its implications and didn't bother to try to.

But here you are:
If you open the transactions there you can see that they are (almost) all POS stake.
http://gorillabucks.info/address/B4XhnyE1y78kiFdBPmmWkLYCAf5rocQ41G

If you open one of them you will see that the stake only gets sent to one address.
http://gorillabucks.info/tx/4696d3c023b3312acc092347cee90f08f5cb944e392bfd4121e6b37a5fbcadc3

As opposed to the normal stakes that get sent to two addresses
http://gorillabucks.info/tx/9601f42fbb2bd84c79c2292fcde6b9fab74751643a748daf5ae29283d82ccfa3

Not to mention the fact that there are no stakes bellow 5 BUCKS.

Now this may not seem much, but imagine if more guys discover this. You can say goodbye to your gorillabands income.

This is waaaay to long already. And I'm sure I forgot something. But I am done here.

Except, as this is Bitcointalk, I am going to have to add personal offenses . iGotSpots is a fucking twat and you are too dumb to see that.

tldr;

I don't understand point of this garbage. You aren't hurting spot..you're hurting people who bought his coin by spreading this rumor. If you have problem with him then you should deal with him personally in civilized manner instead of spreading this garbage that's too long to read.

I bought MMXIV because I thought it had potential and price was falling...soon I realized that trex was going to remove it so I had to convert it to bucks. Now, I'm waiting on bucks to rise to certain price so I can sell it yet you come here and spread this garbage. Who do you think you're hurting?

I sure as hell won't be selling my coins for 3k sat no matter what you say...I have seen shit coins rise to good value so there is still my hope. I don't care what part of your story is true and what is false.. I just care about my investment just like other investors.

stop spreading rumors..whether they are false or true no one gives a shit because we simply don't care about your opinion and petty concerns.

on the other hand if you really want people to feel sorry for you...wait till Bucks has hit 10k so people can even out and they'll be on your side once they're out of the market but right now it's just annoying to see this garbage.

Either way..I have tiny amount of Bucks so I could careless what happens next but for fck sake stop this drama. no one wants to read 10 pages of garbage about how spots is evil and you're not.

So when GorillaBucks or any other coin is compromised you want to keep it quiet so you can sell for a good price before it collapse
What a joke !
Exactly keeping quiet that GorillaBucks is compromised is more damaging then inform people about it.
Not to mention that it prevents others from getting screwed.
Unlike you I do care and have 20K+ of that shitcoin a shit coin that is compromised.

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[nutildah]

Why is everyone picking on iGotspots?

I've never had a problem with him.

~BCX~

Not everyone is picking on Spots, it seems to be a Clique of troublemakers who are kicking up a fuss because they could not bully him into doing what they want

He's always done right by me also.

No, I just don't like him because he's a shitty fraud and a clear sociopath. He'll say anything to separate some poor schmoe from their money.

In that regard he'll make an excellent politician someday. That is if he doesn't land in prison first.

[nikkers]

@ButtCrack what fact's am i turning? i simply gave my opinion that's all 

p.s what your fascination with men doing things to each other?  always notice that from the worst trolls, very strange indeed!

[hopped]

@buttcrack everyone has opinions but no proof to back fuck all up so why don't you go back to being a cock jockey rather than acting like I just have.

[notabeliever]

What others coins is he creating? is it Greed? I saw Vary jump up in blocks to 120790. This one had potential.

Open up your old coin wallets, your coins are still there and the blocks are syncing.

[unusualfacts30]

As far as I can see some guys are trying to steal his old gorillateeth and now complaining about it? He also mentioned that when he changed from gorillateeth to gorillbucks people were double claiming and then they dumped.

If you don't like him how about use your own head and create your own coin instead of stealing his gorillatetth?  

I don't own many gorillabucks so I could careless either way. I personally didn't think creating new coin was such a good idea....I hope anyone reading this would NEVER rename their own coin.

same goes for DASH too..I sold the moment it changed its name.

BTC doesn't need to change its name because there is no need to. You can make changes without creating new names and losing old investors.

Hey,

Spots created GorillaTeeth and Vary a month or two ago. Before that he got people to mail him 100$ to get old Bucks at 1$ per BUCK. MMXIV had been running for a year.

This is what their emission was by the time of the snapshot:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1059159.msg11739761#msg11739761

MMXIV
Total Supply at Snapshot: 12226978.97608400
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each MMXIV will yield 0.0204465878684343 GorillaBucks


TEETH
Total Supply at Snapshot: 397999.94617700
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each TEETH will yield 0.628140788463371 GorillaBucks


VARY
Total Supply at Snapshot: 110101.88922800
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each VARY will yield 2.270624071511595 GorillaBucks


BUCKS
Total Supply at Snapshot: 38831.43331300
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each BUCKS will yield 6.438083240061729 GorillaBucks

Its interesting to ask why he chose this model of distribution in the first place. Why not give each of the coins an equivalent weight determined by its market cap median for the last month or so. This would be fair.

This is my conjecture with facts thrown in for pattern recognition.

1. Spots bought a boat load of BALLS and 10K when they were at 1 sat.
2. Then had a great idea. "Lets merge this two and crunch them" <-
2a. Since he knew before hand he was going to do this he made sure to get his lorry full before he announced this.
3. The merge and crunch happen and he has many TEETH.
4. The exchange happened and he got about 20K TEETH, if i remembered correctly.
4a. But the poor guy had to pay from his own pocket some fees and stuff, because people are mean...
5. There was a problem with the staking formula because some people only staked for the 6480% blocks. And this diluted his big advantage.
6. He launches vary as a test chain (which gets in some exchanges despite being a "test").
  a. Vary rewards 1 coin per POW block.
  b. POW lasts until the bazillionth block.
  c. He asks people not to rent hashing power for this because its just a test chain.
  d. For the initial blocks the difficulty was extremely small ensuring someone with good hash power would get many blocks.
  e. The staking rewards SMALL blocks.
  f. There is not a block explorer despite this coin is traded on reputable exchanges.
7. Then he has the great idea of merging the four coins. Who do you think came out on top?
7a. But the poor guy had to pay from his own pocket some coins and stuff, because people are mean...

Not to mention the that time (that I noticed) when the TEETH chain went back about 1 or 2k blocks (it was 2 days worth I think).

You guys do understand that the one who controls the checkpoint server controls the chain, right? Decentralization, schmentralization.

Having said that lets address your accusations.

As far as I can see some guys are trying to steal his old gorillateeth and now complaining about it? He also mentioned that when he changed from gorillateeth to gorillbucks people were double claiming and then they dumped.

If you don't like him how about use your own head and create your own coin instead of stealing his gorillatetth?  

Oh my. Clueless much?

There is beauty in crypto. No, its not earning da big bucks.
The beauty lies in the fact that a bunch of guys who see some ego-maniacal little wannabe despot trying to control their money, they can say:
"No! That's what the banks are for." Do you even understand this?

I invested in Teeth and with spots always wanting the upper hand, I would lose big. Still I didn't give him a hard time. I just wanted to keep the TEETH chain moving, change its name and try to keep part of my "investment" (Yes, I am in the alts snakepit for the money too).  

First spots said it was OK, then he changed his mind and started to make threats about pulling his weight with the exchanges to not accept the spin-offs.
(I blame Vegas and his Monkey Boy Coin for it. No hard feelings though.   )

Then came the "Oh noze, poor me. I was scammed and had to pay triple the coins in existence because of this". And one of you guys had the brilliant idea of blaming the Spin-Off gang for it.

I asked spots to clear it up and he deleted my post.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108502.msg11887787#msg11887787

Yeah, I did not like that so, I sent this cutie to a bunch of guys (Beware, it has some 3rd Grader Humour inside) .
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108502.msg11892995#msg11892995

You got it too, but didn't understand its implications and didn't bother to try to.

But here you are:
If you open the transactions there you can see that they are (almost) all POS stake.
http://gorillabucks.info/address/B4XhnyE1y78kiFdBPmmWkLYCAf5rocQ41G

If you open one of them you will see that the stake only gets sent to one address.
http://gorillabucks.info/tx/4696d3c023b3312acc092347cee90f08f5cb944e392bfd4121e6b37a5fbcadc3

As opposed to the normal stakes that get sent to two addresses
http://gorillabucks.info/tx/9601f42fbb2bd84c79c2292fcde6b9fab74751643a748daf5ae29283d82ccfa3

Not to mention the fact that there are no stakes bellow 5 BUCKS.

Now this may not seem much, but imagine if more guys discover this. You can say goodbye to your gorillabands income.

This is waaaay to long already. And I'm sure I forgot something. But I am done here.

Except, as this is Bitcointalk, I am going to have to add personal offenses . iGotSpots is a fucking twat and you are too dumb to see that.

tldr;

I don't understand point of this garbage. You aren't hurting spot..you're hurting people who bought his coin by spreading this rumor. If you have problem with him then you should deal with him personally in civilized manner instead of spreading this garbage that's too long to read.

I bought MMXIV because I thought it had potential and price was falling...soon I realized that trex was going to remove it so I had to convert it to bucks. Now, I'm waiting on bucks to rise to certain price so I can sell it yet you come here and spread this garbage. Who do you think you're hurting?

I sure as hell won't be selling my coins for 3k sat no matter what you say...I have seen shit coins rise to good value so there is still my hope. I don't care what part of your story is true and what is false.. I just care about my investment just like other investors.

stop spreading rumors..whether they are false or true no one gives a shit because we simply don't care about your opinion and petty concerns.

on the other hand if you really want people to feel sorry for you...wait till Bucks has hit 10k so people can even out and they'll be on your side once they're out of the market but right now it's just annoying to see this garbage.

Either way..I have tiny amount of Bucks so I could careless what happens next but for fck sake stop this drama. no one wants to read 10 pages of garbage about how spots is evil and you're not.

So when GorillaBucks or any other coin is compromised you want to keep it quiet so you can sell for a good price before it collapse
What a joke !
Exactly keeping quiet that GorillaBucks is compromised is more damaging then inform people about it.
Not to mention that it prevents others from getting screwed.
Unlike you I do care and have 20K+ of that shitcoin a shit coin that is compromised.

uhh..yeah? why would I tell eveyrone it's a scam before getting out of it...in fact why would any logical person would do that? just so people can dump on him and he gets stuck with coins that he doesn't want?

First logical thing to do at that point would be sell your coins and get out of the market AND THEN inform everyone.

As I said before..if you have beef with spots...take it to him via pm rather than confusing investors and telling people to take over his old coins.

why do you still have 20k? you should've sold them long time ago

as before my offer still stands and I will buy them off you for 1500 sat each if you pm me.

good luck

[BitcoinEXpress]

So can any one describe a clear cut, fact documented instance of iGotSpots scamming some one?

Just curious because all I se are lots of second hand repeated baseless accusations.


~BCX~

[muddafudda]

So can any one describe a clear cut, fact documented instance of iGotSpots scamming some one?

Just curious because all I se are lots of second hand repeated baseless accusations.


~BCX~

Almost every coin has been launched in private, instamined or scam mined. I guess he never scammed anyone the claim I am guessing is he just scammed everyone.

He name is what it is and is mostly backed by paid fake fanbois. He can do as he pleases though me like many others steer well clear of his crap.

[gnargnar]

That's really a shame Muddafudda even dare to post in that kind of thread...

LOL   muddafudda saying this or that guy is a scammer... Damn, what a joke

[JackRipper]

IMHO, IGotSpots is annoying, incompetent, and irresponsible as a developer, but he's not a scammer. That word is thrown around too loosely around here.

[muddafudda]

So can any one describe a clear cut, fact documented instance of iGotSpots scamming some one?

Just curious because all I se are lots of second hand repeated baseless accusations.


~BCX~

Almost every coin has been launched in private, instamined or scam mined. I guess he never scammed anyone the claim I am guessing is he just scammed everyone.

He name is what it is and is mostly backed by paid fake fanbois. He can do as he pleases though me like many others steer well clear of his crap.

look like you are lier https://twitter.com/PurePoS/status/622819903213576196 he say what you do jaja he not pay anyone we make money with him coins and help when asked. quote from twit under
"DID YOU KNOW: Tickets (TIX) was made by muddafudda and Mullick from @Cryptsy, I only posted it. Wonder why it was listed so fast there..  "
very sneaky you say bad thing now and call honest man scam when u are doing the scams with cryptsy

This is funny. Well at least we know he is a liar. It wasn't made by me though I did implement the random POS reward structure that had never been done before.

I think Spots is just pissed as Cryptsy wont list his scamcoins.

As for only posting it, well the truth will come out on that one.

Dig dig dig spotty man.

[kryptologist]

DUH

[TomVelvetPaws]

You guys lost money on his coins get over it.I really think  you all are wasting time and energy on the wrong person.Why not focus your energy and fud on a REAL scammer im pretty sure that with all the AWESOME talent here you could find out just who the fuck  that Lioncoin/Drac coin/Wolfcoin  aka Hanoosh is hes the real scammer/thief here.But noooooo you have to pick on this guy a person that's at least open and HERE. I don't see him hiding anything and his code is clean from what I have seen.Be reasonable please there is no reason to be assholes.Im sure if you give him time things will be worked out but as long as you pick on him why the hell should "anyone" help you.Like the old saying goes "you catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar" and before you say anything yes I am a member of his council but I wish for everyone to be happy there really is no reason for all of this.Can we not just at least try to work this out?

[Woody20285]

Ok - agree or disagree.
Here's my problem. Bought Original Bucks at $1 per coin
                                 Spots never got on an exchange - said he tried and none would take it
                                 Separately bragged about all his friends on exchanges
                                 Had no trouble getting Vary on exchange even though it was an "experimental" coin
                                 Has no trouble getting New Bucks on exchange immediately
                                 Merged Original Bucks with 3 other coins - there was no opportunity to get out
                                           of Bucks since he never put it on an exchange (other than his own which  had
                                           no volume).
                                 He says but you got 6 coins to 1 - OK 1 coin was $1 = 6 coins would be equivalent of
                                           58000 sats per the same ratio.
                                 New bucks had small volume at around 20000 sat but quickly fell to about 8000 sat
                                 Loss for investors who trusted Spots 50000 sat per coin - I had 300 original bucks or
                                          1800 new bucks - loss 90 Million sats
                                 (numbers approx - not exact).
                                 Who made out - holders of mass quantities of low value coins - who knew merge was
                                          coming (probably when Original Bucks were being sold) given the short time
                                          from issue to merge - who had the ability to pick up tons of MMXIV which were
                                          being dumped
                                  Not saying Spots did above but the right way would have been to offer refund to Original
                                          Bucks coinholders or consider market cap in formula rather than forced merge for
                                          origianl Bucks buyers.

[Monopoly]

It's because they are full of sh*t .....

[compmaster]

  f. There is not a block explorer despite this coin is traded on reputable exchanges.

Clearly any exchange that would add a coin without a block explorer isn't reputable.

[notabeliever]

a pool with 3 workers and 15th's where is everyone else and why can't more join

[hankman]

I wonder if the mighty iGotSpots could fork Ethereum? You would all love him then.

[kelsey]

rename the thread "played my hand poorly so i'll blame the dealer" 

[sloopy]

People complaining about Spots are mostly people that did not read the threads and notices and did not follow the set rules and lost out because of their own laziness/incompetence. I agree that some of Spots' decisions could have been done better especially applying a weighted avg on the last merge. However, those that followed the threads and interpreted the planned moves and coin specs properly, made tons because one could see the impact from a mile and could prepare accordingly.

Spots just takes no-nonsense and sticks to his guns. It is never possible to please everyone in this game. Remember that crypto currently is very much like the Wild West of the 1860s and everyone follows the best middle road they can. When you are moving through a jungle clearing bush with a machete, no-one can really be blamed for going left or right since there is no map for what lies ahead and at least from experience people that then follow will know don't go left there or don't go right there. At some point better generally accepted rules and regulations will form that governs things like merges, swops, new coins and the likes. In the mean time sometimes you win and sometimes you lose and anyone that does not already write off any money invested in crypto should rather go buy government bonds. This place is lawless, but necessary to produce innovation for a digital future. In that sense I like some of Spots' experiments, especially on the high POS. High POS sounded like a good idea but was not economically viable and it had to be reigned in. Bringing it into one stall was a good idea not necessary executed perfectly but taking a hair cut is much better any day than being abandoned outright.

You can love Spots or hate him and it is possible to say many pros and cons about his actions, but he is still around, taking the flack on the chin and moving forward despite all the attacks and animosity. He is sticking to his guns so far on his middle road and is much more that can be said about most other devs that disappeared, produced infected wallets, dumped premine and ran, coded hidden premine or any other blatant scamming that went on elsewhere.

[soapbox]
    I'm one to complain about spots.  Personally I don't think he was out to scam anyone.  But by his actions, he's caused a few half way decent coins to collapse.  If the group wants to take them over, I say more power to you. 

   The problem I've noticed is spots is bi-polar.  He's also manipulative.  Throws childish temper tantrums when people don't agree with him.  Then he deletes posts, including his own.

   At one point during vary testing the people in BTCtalk were the best because everyone was testing out his new stuff.
   now, he hates everyone of them and there all fools. 

   Someone asked for help with a conf file.  Conf files are for shit coins to make them able to run. 
   4 posts later, add maxcon=999 to the conf file... 

   At one point he was the greatest developer to ever live, only he could understand everything.
   later he admits he just started coding and didn't care for it very much. 

   No coin control in his earlier coins, because he didn't want people gaming the system.
   later he explains how to do things you could easily do with coin control to game the system.
   I think the problem was, he didn't know how to make it work. 

   Never a bug in his code.
   The whole thread is filled with him, releasing fixes.  Not to mention the problems with 9 hour block times, that just had to work themselves out...
   I don't know if he ever fixed the problem with Stakes not reporting while maturing.  His solution was to close the wallet and reopen.  Or go look at getinfo the info
   is correct there. 

   It's his coin, and he's going to do whatever he feels is best.
   Everybody was complaining so I had to change it.   

My whole problem with his coins.  He can't seem to stick with anything for very long.  Something new comes along and there is a hard fork.  Things not working exactly as expected, create a new coin and merge things. 

The great and powerful spots couldn't figure out how to make a coin that would just use a snap shot of the old chain and assign the new coins to addresses based on that.  AKA Clams.  Would have saved all of the bullshit, send me your keys/wallet and you only have 60 mins for this offer....

He slams Hyperstake every chance he gets.  At least that coin has stuck to it's guns, and after some interesting inflation, seems to have settled down.  Plus it has a hella development group.         

  He's had some interesting idea, It's to bad he felt the need to change things and have them come crashing down.   

[/soapbox]         

This guy has it right.
Spots is a straight out scammer.
The only people supporting him are either shills, partnered with him, still being scammed, or trying to get their money out before they get the hell away from him.

Get out, take whatever you can, and don't ever give him another penny. There are plenty of other things happening in crypto lead by people with real vision, who can truly code and not copy / paste everything. Hell, Spots copy / paste sucked so bad he couldn't match up the edges of so many functions even the resolution of his coins never works right. Its shit product from a poser Dev.