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July 16, 2015, 05:35:59 AM
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Roborob here is the list of coins iGotSpots has "developed".

Nanas


List is current as of 07/15/2015
Original Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=997955.0

Nanas is not his coin. Its just the one he ripped off to make GorillaBucks.
https://github.com/iGotSpots/GorillaBucks/tree/master/doc


Sources told me he was a major investor.  One in the same to me.

The above quote speaks volumes, just because someone invested in a coin you assume that they are the dev, and then to go on to say "one in the same to me" just proves your looking for any excuse to have a go.......pathetic really.
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July 16, 2015, 06:00:42 AM
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Roborob here is the list of coins iGotSpots has "developed".

Nanas


List is current as of 07/15/2015
Original Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=997955.0

Nanas is not his coin. Its just the one he ripped off to make GorillaBucks.
https://github.com/iGotSpots/GorillaBucks/tree/master/doc


Sources told me he was a major investor.  One in the same to me.

The above quote speaks volumes, just because someone invested in a coin you assume that they are the dev, and then to go on to say "one in the same to me" just proves your looking for any excuse to have a go.......pathetic really.

Major investors generally have input.  Because he is a known scammer it is easy to say he knew exactly what to do with NANAS.

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July 16, 2015, 10:06:26 AM
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As far as I can see some guys are trying to steal his old gorillateeth and now complaining about it? He also mentioned that when he changed from gorillateeth to gorillbucks people were double claiming and then they dumped.

If you don't like him how about use your own head and create your own coin instead of stealing his gorillatetth?  Huh

I don't own many gorillabucks so I could careless either way. I personally didn't think creating new coin was such a good idea....I hope anyone reading this would NEVER rename their own coin.

same goes for DASH too..I sold the moment it changed its name.

BTC doesn't need to change its name because there is no need to. You can make changes without creating new names and losing old investors.

Hey,

Spots created GorillaTeeth and Vary a month or two ago. Before that he got people to mail him 100$ to get old Bucks at 1$ per BUCK. MMXIV had been running for a year.

This is what their emission was by the time of the snapshot:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1059159.msg11739761#msg11739761
Quote from: iGotSpots
MMXIV
Total Supply at Snapshot: 12226978.97608400
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each MMXIV will yield 0.0204465878684343 GorillaBucks


TEETH
Total Supply at Snapshot: 397999.94617700
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each TEETH will yield 0.628140788463371 GorillaBucks


VARY
Total Supply at Snapshot: 110101.88922800
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each VARY will yield 2.270624071511595 GorillaBucks


BUCKS
Total Supply at Snapshot: 38831.43331300
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each BUCKS will yield 6.438083240061729 GorillaBucks

Its interesting to ask why he chose this model of distribution in the first place. Why not give each of the coins an equivalent weight determined by its market cap median for the last month or so. This would be fair.

This is my conjecture with facts thrown in for pattern recognition.

1. Spots bought a boat load of BALLS and 10K when they were at 1 sat.
2. Then had a great idea. "Lets merge this two and crunch them" <-
2a. Since he knew before hand he was going to do this he made sure to get his lorry full before he announced this.
3. The merge and crunch happen and he has many TEETH.
4. The exchange happened and he got about 20K TEETH, if i remembered correctly.
4a. But the poor guy had to pay from his own pocket some fees and stuff, because people are mean...
5. There was a problem with the staking formula because some people only staked for the 6480% blocks. And this diluted his big advantage.
6. He launches vary as a test chain (which gets in some exchanges despite being a "test").
  a. Vary rewards 1 coin per POW block.
  b. POW lasts until the bazillionth block.
  c. He asks people not to rent hashing power for this because its just a test chain.
  d. For the initial blocks the difficulty was extremely small ensuring someone with good hash power would get many blocks.
  e. The staking rewards SMALL blocks.
  f. There is not a block explorer despite this coin is traded on reputable exchanges.
7. Then he has the great idea of merging the four coins. Who do you think came out on top?
7a. But the poor guy had to pay from his own pocket some coins and stuff, because people are mean...

Not to mention the that time (that I noticed) when the TEETH chain went back about 1 or 2k blocks (it was 2 days worth I think).

You guys do understand that the one who controls the checkpoint server controls the chain, right? Decentralization, schmentralization.

Having said that lets address your accusations.

As far as I can see some guys are trying to steal his old gorillateeth and now complaining about it? He also mentioned that when he changed from gorillateeth to gorillbucks people were double claiming and then they dumped.

If you don't like him how about use your own head and create your own coin instead of stealing his gorillatetth?  Huh

Oh my. Clueless much?

There is beauty in crypto. No, its not earning da big bucks.
The beauty lies in the fact that a bunch of guys who see some ego-maniacal little wannabe despot trying to control their money, they can say:
"No! That's what the banks are for." Do you even understand this?

I invested in Teeth and with spots always wanting the upper hand, I would lose big. Still I didn't give him a hard time. I just wanted to keep the TEETH chain moving, change its name and try to keep part of my "investment" (Yes, I am in the alts snakepit for the money too). 

First spots said it was OK, then he changed his mind and started to make threats about pulling his weight with the exchanges to not accept the spin-offs.
(I blame Vegas and his Monkey Boy Coin for it. No hard feelings though.  Kiss )

Then came the "Oh noze, poor me. I was scammed and had to pay triple the coins in existence because of this". And one of you guys had the brilliant idea of blaming the Spin-Off gang for it.

I asked spots to clear it up and he deleted my post.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108502.msg11887787#msg11887787

Yeah, I did not like that so, I sent this cutie to a bunch of guys (Beware, it has some 3rd Grader Humour inside) .
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108502.msg11892995#msg11892995

You got it too, but didn't understand its implications and didn't bother to try to.

But here you are:
If you open the transactions there you can see that they are (almost) all POS stake.
http://gorillabucks.info/address/B4XhnyE1y78kiFdBPmmWkLYCAf5rocQ41G

If you open one of them you will see that the stake only gets sent to one address.
http://gorillabucks.info/tx/4696d3c023b3312acc092347cee90f08f5cb944e392bfd4121e6b37a5fbcadc3

As opposed to the normal stakes that get sent to two addresses
http://gorillabucks.info/tx/9601f42fbb2bd84c79c2292fcde6b9fab74751643a748daf5ae29283d82ccfa3

Not to mention the fact that there are no stakes bellow 5 BUCKS.

Now this may not seem much, but imagine if more guys discover this. You can say goodbye to your gorillabands income.


This is waaaay to long already. And I'm sure I forgot something. But I am done here.

Except, as this is Bitcointalk, I am going to have to add personal offenses . iGotSpots is a fucking twat and you are too dumb to see that.
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July 16, 2015, 11:30:24 AM
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People here are so clueless...

Lets think for a minute here...

Who the fuck invests in a coin wich is made by a developer of X other coins? This dumb ass uses the same name over and over and people still support him with all his shit clones? Grin Cheesy


And then we are not even talking about the coins he released anonymously... A so called " dev"  which released his first coin in 2013... jep.. it is probably safe to say he has a few ICO/IPO scams on his name to Wink

Goodluck investing time and money in the projects of this shitty coder (yes spots.. your coding sucks Cheesy)
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July 16, 2015, 12:51:13 PM
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I don't know about scams or not only the fact that I am not the best of traders at the best of times and always entered in his coins when they were high and I lost around 2 btc on SPOTTY coins, others did really well from them so I guess it was just my bad luck lol. So apart from buying my own coin and a couple of other stable ones I just work for bounties now, buying coins for me is too risky.. Until I learn to mine that is..


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July 16, 2015, 01:39:13 PM
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Did spots really make GAS?  I had never heard that before.  That coin was definitely malicious, much more so than the other ones listed.
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July 16, 2015, 02:30:39 PM
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this thread is full of non-sense and semi-lie. It's very pathetic to read the "info gathered" by Ricky Petrovich.  You guys don't even know how ridiculous you look like when you post here some "facts" that are simply suppositions. I can even see some patterns in the postings and replies that clearly indicate that -at least- 2 or 3 shill bct accounts are being used by one guy to help giving weight to his, sadly lost, battle.  I'm also surprised to not see vegasguy posting more here... he's such a completely ridiculous liar and mentally challenged guy that if he was posting more here, that would greatly add more lolz and facepalms to this crappy thread.


Do you have reading disabilities?


This is my conjecture with facts thrown in for pattern recognition.


I have marked the facts and crossed my suppositions for you. You can change "he/spots" with "someone". And then you draw your own conclusions about who that someone might be.

1. Spots Someone bought a boat load of BALLS and 10K when they were at 1 sat.
2. Then spots had a great idea. "Lets merge this two and crunch them" <-
2a. Since he knew before hand he was going to do this he made sure to get his lorry full before he announced this.
3. The merge and crunch happen and he someone has many TEETH.
4. The exchange happened and he someone got about 20K TEETH, if i remembered correctly.
4a. But the poor guy had to pay from his own pocket some fees and stuff, because people are mean...
5. There was a problem with the staking formula because some people only staked for the 6480% blocks. And this diluted his someone's big advantage.
6. He launches vary as a test chain (which gets in some exchanges despite being a "test").
  a. Vary rewards 1 coin per POW block.
  b. POW lasts until the bazillionth block.
  c. He asks people not to rent hashing power for this because its just a test chain.
  d. For the initial blocks the difficulty was extremely small ensuring someone with good hash power would get many blocks.
  e. The staking rewards SMALL blocks.
  f. There is not a block explorer despite this coin is traded on reputable exchanges.

7. Then he has the great idea of merging the four coins. Who do you think came out on top?
7a. But the poor guy had to pay from his own pocket some coins and stuff, because people are mean...


And do you also deny this?


If you open the transactions there you can see that they are (almost) all POS stake.
http://gorillabucks.info/address/B4XhnyE1y78kiFdBPmmWkLYCAf5rocQ41G

If you open one of them you will see that the stake only gets sent to one address.
http://gorillabucks.info/tx/4696d3c023b3312acc092347cee90f08f5cb944e392bfd4121e6b37a5fbcadc3

As opposed to the normal stakes that get sent to two addresses
http://gorillabucks.info/tx/9601f42fbb2bd84c79c2292fcde6b9fab74751643a748daf5ae29283d82ccfa3

Not to mention the fact that there are no stakes bellow 5 BUCKS.

Now this may not seem much, but imagine if more guys discover this. You can say goodbye to your gorillabands income.


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July 16, 2015, 02:42:13 PM
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People complaining about Spots are mostly people that did not read the threads and notices and did not follow the set rules and lost out because of their own laziness/incompetence. I agree that some of Spots' decisions could have been done better especially applying a weighted avg on the last merge. However, those that followed the threads and interpreted the planned moves and coin specs properly, made tons because one could see the impact from a mile and could prepare accordingly.

Spots just takes no-nonsense and sticks to his guns. It is never possible to please everyone in this game. Remember that crypto currently is very much like the Wild West of the 1860s and everyone follows the best middle road they can. When you are moving through a jungle clearing bush with a machete, no-one can really be blamed for going left or right since there is no map for what lies ahead and at least from experience people that then follow will know don't go left there or don't go right there. At some point better generally accepted rules and regulations will form that governs things like merges, swops, new coins and the likes. In the mean time sometimes you win and sometimes you lose and anyone that does not already write off any money invested in crypto should rather go buy government bonds. This place is lawless, but necessary to produce innovation for a digital future. In that sense I like some of Spots' experiments, especially on the high POS. High POS sounded like a good idea but was not economically viable and it had to be reigned in. Bringing it into one stall was a good idea not necessary executed perfectly but taking a hair cut is much better any day than being abandoned outright.

You can love Spots or hate him and it is possible to say many pros and cons about his actions, but he is still around, taking the flack on the chin and moving forward despite all the attacks and animosity. So far he is sticking to his guns on his middle road and is much more that can be said about most other devs that disappeared, produced infected wallets, dumped premine and ran, coded hidden premine or any other blatant scamming that went on elsewhere.
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July 16, 2015, 03:14:02 PM
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People complaining about Spots are mostly people that did not read the threads and notices and did not follow the set rules and lost out because of their own laziness/incompetence. I agree that some of Spots' decisions could have been done better especially applying a weighted avg on the last merge. However, those that followed the threads and interpreted the planned moves and coin specs properly, made tons because one could see the impact from a mile and could prepare accordingly.

Spots just takes no-nonsense and sticks to his guns. It is never possible to please everyone in this game. Remember that crypto currently is very much like the Wild West of the 1860s and everyone follows the best middle road they can. When you are moving through a jungle clearing bush with a machete, no-one can really be blamed for going left or right since there is no map for what lies ahead and at least from experience people that then follow will know don't go left there or don't go right there. At some point better generally accepted rules and regulations will form that governs things like merges, swops, new coins and the likes. In the mean time sometimes you win and sometimes you lose and anyone that does not already write off any money invested in crypto should rather go buy government bonds. This place is lawless, but necessary to produce innovation for a digital future. In that sense I like some of Spots' experiments, especially on the high POS. High POS sounded like a good idea but was not economically viable and it had to be reigned in. Bringing it into one stall was a good idea not necessary executed perfectly but taking a hair cut is much better any day than being abandoned outright.

You can love Spots or hate him and it is possible to say many pros and cons about his actions, but he is still around, taking the flack on the chin and moving forward despite all the attacks and animosity. He is sticking to his guns so far on his middle road and is much more that can be said about most other devs that disappeared, produced infected wallets, dumped premine and ran, coded hidden premine or any other blatant scamming that went on elsewhere.

[soapbox]
    I'm one to complain about spots.  Personally I don't think he was out to scam anyone.  But by his actions, he's caused a few half way decent coins to collapse.  If the group wants to take them over, I say more power to you. 

   The problem I've noticed is spots is bi-polar.  He's also manipulative.  Throws childish temper tantrums when people don't agree with him.  Then he deletes posts, including his own.

   At one point during vary testing the people in BTCtalk were the best because everyone was testing out his new stuff.
   now, he hates everyone of them and there all fools. 

   Someone asked for help with a conf file.  Conf files are for shit coins to make them able to run. 
   4 posts later, add maxcon=999 to the conf file... 

   At one point he was the greatest developer to ever live, only he could understand everything.
   later he admits he just started coding and didn't care for it very much. 

   No coin control in his earlier coins, because he didn't want people gaming the system.
   later he explains how to do things you could easily do with coin control to game the system.
   I think the problem was, he didn't know how to make it work. 

   Never a bug in his code.
   The whole thread is filled with him, releasing fixes.  Not to mention the problems with 9 hour block times, that just had to work themselves out...
   I don't know if he ever fixed the problem with Stakes not reporting while maturing.  His solution was to close the wallet and reopen.  Or go look at getinfo the info
   is correct there. 

   It's his coin, and he's going to do whatever he feels is best.
   Everybody was complaining so I had to change it.   

My whole problem with his coins.  He can't seem to stick with anything for very long.  Something new comes along and there is a hard fork.  Things not working exactly as expected, create a new coin and merge things. 

The great and powerful spots couldn't figure out how to make a coin that would just use a snap shot of the old chain and assign the new coins to addresses based on that.  AKA Clams.  Would have saved all of the bullshit, send me your keys/wallet and you only have 60 mins for this offer....

He slams Hyperstake every chance he gets.  At least that coin has stuck to it's guns, and after some interesting inflation, seems to have settled down.  Plus it has a hella development group.         

  He's had some interesting idea, It's to bad he felt the need to change things and have them come crashing down.   

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Listen its hard to imagine a person whom you trusted  committing a scam and I think everyone cannot pass judgement on us complainers until you do your own hard research. We are trying to notify others that there are some strange patterns since 10k swap. Do you realize that after all these swaps the new Bucks is still not perfect.

Why is it so important for us to put 5000 coins into gorillabucks? whom gets rewarded from that?

Please everyone look carefully at you transactions. How many had credits then debits after receiving a POS in the beginning. Do you see them now.? I see them in the transactions using bucks explorer. The wallet explorer was working at one too.

I haven't received a stake since July 1st. Yet everyday I get closure to receiving a stake my day increase another 2 days before earning rewards. My wallet has been on straight for 3 days yet increases from 9 to 14 days before earning rewards yet nothing since July 1st with only 21 coins.
I have staked others coins before and all coins continue to decrease the amount of time to earn rewards the latest UNITS.

I checked my wallet address and on July 14 there was a 2 dollar debit yet doesn't reflect in my wallet transaction list.


Before you judge us please look at everything sometimes your neighbor whom you drank coffee commits a crime and all you have to say to the media was. " He was good to us how could he do something like this"


By the way open source and Github allows you to fork wallets to test things, all programmers do it including spots.
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July 16, 2015, 03:23:38 PM
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Forgot one thing.

Why did spots mess with Yobits coin Yovi? Reads his posts

Why did spots takeover and kill ECASH? Read his posts

Something has happened to him because he did have good intentions yet how do you explain his recent attempt to Fork Yobits coin and helping ECASH out with some wallet fixes then Taking it over from them. A reputable OCMiner is not happy with that one.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=997955.0
[ANN] ECASH Problems/Takeover with IGotSpots - be warned !
March 20, 2015, 09:20:56 PM


Please think about the reasons why we are speaking out. We have no gain from anything of his except to be honesty and fair with us.
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As far as I can see some guys are trying to steal his old gorillateeth and now complaining about it? He also mentioned that when he changed from gorillateeth to gorillbucks people were double claiming and then they dumped.

If you don't like him how about use your own head and create your own coin instead of stealing his gorillatetth?  Huh

I don't own many gorillabucks so I could careless either way. I personally didn't think creating new coin was such a good idea....I hope anyone reading this would NEVER rename their own coin.

same goes for DASH too..I sold the moment it changed its name.

BTC doesn't need to change its name because there is no need to. You can make changes without creating new names and losing old investors.

Hey,

Spots created GorillaTeeth and Vary a month or two ago. Before that he got people to mail him 100$ to get old Bucks at 1$ per BUCK. MMXIV had been running for a year.

This is what their emission was by the time of the snapshot:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1059159.msg11739761#msg11739761
Quote from: iGotSpots
MMXIV
Total Supply at Snapshot: 12226978.97608400
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each MMXIV will yield 0.0204465878684343 GorillaBucks


TEETH
Total Supply at Snapshot: 397999.94617700
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each TEETH will yield 0.628140788463371 GorillaBucks


VARY
Total Supply at Snapshot: 110101.88922800
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each VARY will yield 2.270624071511595 GorillaBucks


BUCKS
Total Supply at Snapshot: 38831.43331300
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each BUCKS will yield 6.438083240061729 GorillaBucks

Its interesting to ask why he chose this model of distribution in the first place. Why not give each of the coins an equivalent weight determined by its market cap median for the last month or so. This would be fair.

This is my conjecture with facts thrown in for pattern recognition.

1. Spots bought a boat load of BALLS and 10K when they were at 1 sat.
2. Then had a great idea. "Lets merge this two and crunch them" <-
2a. Since he knew before hand he was going to do this he made sure to get his lorry full before he announced this.
3. The merge and crunch happen and he has many TEETH.
4. The exchange happened and he got about 20K TEETH, if i remembered correctly.
4a. But the poor guy had to pay from his own pocket some fees and stuff, because people are mean...
5. There was a problem with the staking formula because some people only staked for the 6480% blocks. And this diluted his big advantage.
6. He launches vary as a test chain (which gets in some exchanges despite being a "test").
  a. Vary rewards 1 coin per POW block.
  b. POW lasts until the bazillionth block.
  c. He asks people not to rent hashing power for this because its just a test chain.
  d. For the initial blocks the difficulty was extremely small ensuring someone with good hash power would get many blocks.
  e. The staking rewards SMALL blocks.
  f. There is not a block explorer despite this coin is traded on reputable exchanges.
7. Then he has the great idea of merging the four coins. Who do you think came out on top?
7a. But the poor guy had to pay from his own pocket some coins and stuff, because people are mean...

Not to mention the that time (that I noticed) when the TEETH chain went back about 1 or 2k blocks (it was 2 days worth I think).

You guys do understand that the one who controls the checkpoint server controls the chain, right? Decentralization, schmentralization.

Having said that lets address your accusations.

As far as I can see some guys are trying to steal his old gorillateeth and now complaining about it? He also mentioned that when he changed from gorillateeth to gorillbucks people were double claiming and then they dumped.

If you don't like him how about use your own head and create your own coin instead of stealing his gorillatetth?  Huh

Oh my. Clueless much?

There is beauty in crypto. No, its not earning da big bucks.
The beauty lies in the fact that a bunch of guys who see some ego-maniacal little wannabe despot trying to control their money, they can say:
"No! That's what the banks are for." Do you even understand this?

I invested in Teeth and with spots always wanting the upper hand, I would lose big. Still I didn't give him a hard time. I just wanted to keep the TEETH chain moving, change its name and try to keep part of my "investment" (Yes, I am in the alts snakepit for the money too). 

First spots said it was OK, then he changed his mind and started to make threats about pulling his weight with the exchanges to not accept the spin-offs.
(I blame Vegas and his Monkey Boy Coin for it. No hard feelings though.  Kiss )

Then came the "Oh noze, poor me. I was scammed and had to pay triple the coins in existence because of this". And one of you guys had the brilliant idea of blaming the Spin-Off gang for it.

I asked spots to clear it up and he deleted my post.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108502.msg11887787#msg11887787

Yeah, I did not like that so, I sent this cutie to a bunch of guys (Beware, it has some 3rd Grader Humour inside) .
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108502.msg11892995#msg11892995

You got it too, but didn't understand its implications and didn't bother to try to.

But here you are:
If you open the transactions there you can see that they are (almost) all POS stake.
http://gorillabucks.info/address/B4XhnyE1y78kiFdBPmmWkLYCAf5rocQ41G

If you open one of them you will see that the stake only gets sent to one address.
http://gorillabucks.info/tx/4696d3c023b3312acc092347cee90f08f5cb944e392bfd4121e6b37a5fbcadc3

As opposed to the normal stakes that get sent to two addresses
http://gorillabucks.info/tx/9601f42fbb2bd84c79c2292fcde6b9fab74751643a748daf5ae29283d82ccfa3

Not to mention the fact that there are no stakes bellow 5 BUCKS.

Now this may not seem much, but imagine if more guys discover this. You can say goodbye to your gorillabands income.


This is waaaay to long already. And I'm sure I forgot something. But I am done here.

Except, as this is Bitcointalk, I am going to have to add personal offenses . iGotSpots is a fucking twat and you are too dumb to see that.

tldr;

I don't understand point of this garbage. You aren't hurting spot..you're hurting people who bought his coin by spreading this rumor. If you have problem with him then you should deal with him personally in civilized manner instead of spreading this garbage that's too long to read.

I bought MMXIV because I thought it had potential and price was falling...soon I realized that trex was going to remove it so I had to convert it to bucks. Now, I'm waiting on bucks to rise to certain price so I can sell it yet you come here and spread this garbage. Who do you think you're hurting?

I sure as hell won't be selling my coins for 3k sat no matter what you say...I have seen shit coins rise to good value so there is still my hope. I don't care what part of your story is true and what is false.. I just care about my investment just like other investors.

stop spreading rumors..whether they are false or true no one gives a shit because we simply don't care about your opinion and petty concerns.

on the other hand if you really want people to feel sorry for you...wait till Bucks has hit 10k so people can even out and they'll be on your side once they're out of the market but right now it's just annoying to see this garbage.

Either way..I have tiny amount of Bucks so I could careless what happens next but for fck sake stop this drama. no one wants to read 10 pages of garbage about how spots is evil and you're not.


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As far as I can see some guys are trying to steal his old gorillateeth and now complaining about it? He also mentioned that when he changed from gorillateeth to gorillbucks people were double claiming and then they dumped.

If you don't like him how about use your own head and create your own coin instead of stealing his gorillatetth?  Huh

I don't own many gorillabucks so I could careless either way. I personally didn't think creating new coin was such a good idea....I hope anyone reading this would NEVER rename their own coin.

same goes for DASH too..I sold the moment it changed its name.

BTC doesn't need to change its name because there is no need to. You can make changes without creating new names and losing old investors.

Hey,

Spots created GorillaTeeth and Vary a month or two ago. Before that he got people to mail him 100$ to get old Bucks at 1$ per BUCK. MMXIV had been running for a year.

This is what their emission was by the time of the snapshot:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1059159.msg11739761#msg11739761
Quote from: iGotSpots
MMXIV
Total Supply at Snapshot: 12226978.97608400
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each MMXIV will yield 0.0204465878684343 GorillaBucks


TEETH
Total Supply at Snapshot: 397999.94617700
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each TEETH will yield 0.628140788463371 GorillaBucks


VARY
Total Supply at Snapshot: 110101.88922800
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each VARY will yield 2.270624071511595 GorillaBucks


BUCKS
Total Supply at Snapshot: 38831.43331300
Total Coins on New Chain: 250000
Each BUCKS will yield 6.438083240061729 GorillaBucks

Its interesting to ask why he chose this model of distribution in the first place. Why not give each of the coins an equivalent weight determined by its market cap median for the last month or so. This would be fair.

This is my conjecture with facts thrown in for pattern recognition.

1. Spots bought a boat load of BALLS and 10K when they were at 1 sat.
2. Then had a great idea. "Lets merge this two and crunch them" <-
2a. Since he knew before hand he was going to do this he made sure to get his lorry full before he announced this.
3. The merge and crunch happen and he has many TEETH.
4. The exchange happened and he got about 20K TEETH, if i remembered correctly.
4a. But the poor guy had to pay from his own pocket some fees and stuff, because people are mean...
5. There was a problem with the staking formula because some people only staked for the 6480% blocks. And this diluted his big advantage.
6. He launches vary as a test chain (which gets in some exchanges despite being a "test").
  a. Vary rewards 1 coin per POW block.
  b. POW lasts until the bazillionth block.
  c. He asks people not to rent hashing power for this because its just a test chain.
  d. For the initial blocks the difficulty was extremely small ensuring someone with good hash power would get many blocks.
  e. The staking rewards SMALL blocks.
  f. There is not a block explorer despite this coin is traded on reputable exchanges.
7. Then he has the great idea of merging the four coins. Who do you think came out on top?
7a. But the poor guy had to pay from his own pocket some coins and stuff, because people are mean...

Not to mention the that time (that I noticed) when the TEETH chain went back about 1 or 2k blocks (it was 2 days worth I think).

You guys do understand that the one who controls the checkpoint server controls the chain, right? Decentralization, schmentralization.

Having said that lets address your accusations.

As far as I can see some guys are trying to steal his old gorillateeth and now complaining about it? He also mentioned that when he changed from gorillateeth to gorillbucks people were double claiming and then they dumped.

If you don't like him how about use your own head and create your own coin instead of stealing his gorillatetth?  Huh

Oh my. Clueless much?

There is beauty in crypto. No, its not earning da big bucks.
The beauty lies in the fact that a bunch of guys who see some ego-maniacal little wannabe despot trying to control their money, they can say:
"No! That's what the banks are for." Do you even understand this?

I invested in Teeth and with spots always wanting the upper hand, I would lose big. Still I didn't give him a hard time. I just wanted to keep the TEETH chain moving, change its name and try to keep part of my "investment" (Yes, I am in the alts snakepit for the money too). 

First spots said it was OK, then he changed his mind and started to make threats about pulling his weight with the exchanges to not accept the spin-offs.
(I blame Vegas and his Monkey Boy Coin for it. No hard feelings though.  Kiss )

Then came the "Oh noze, poor me. I was scammed and had to pay triple the coins in existence because of this". And one of you guys had the brilliant idea of blaming the Spin-Off gang for it.

I asked spots to clear it up and he deleted my post.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108502.msg11887787#msg11887787

Yeah, I did not like that so, I sent this cutie to a bunch of guys (Beware, it has some 3rd Grader Humour inside) .
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108502.msg11892995#msg11892995

You got it too, but didn't understand its implications and didn't bother to try to.

But here you are:
If you open the transactions there you can see that they are (almost) all POS stake.
http://gorillabucks.info/address/B4XhnyE1y78kiFdBPmmWkLYCAf5rocQ41G

If you open one of them you will see that the stake only gets sent to one address.
http://gorillabucks.info/tx/4696d3c023b3312acc092347cee90f08f5cb944e392bfd4121e6b37a5fbcadc3

As opposed to the normal stakes that get sent to two addresses
http://gorillabucks.info/tx/9601f42fbb2bd84c79c2292fcde6b9fab74751643a748daf5ae29283d82ccfa3

Not to mention the fact that there are no stakes bellow 5 BUCKS.

Now this may not seem much, but imagine if more guys discover this. You can say goodbye to your gorillabands income.


This is waaaay to long already. And I'm sure I forgot something. But I am done here.

Except, as this is Bitcointalk, I am going to have to add personal offenses . iGotSpots is a fucking twat and you are too dumb to see that.

tldr;

I don't understand point of this garbage. You aren't hurting spot..you're hurting people who bought his coin by spreading this rumor. If you have problem with him then you should deal with him personally in civilized manner instead of spreading this garbage that's too long to read.

I bought MMXIV because I thought it had potential and price was falling...soon I realized that trex was going to remove it so I had to convert it to bucks. Now, I'm waiting on bucks to rise to certain price so I can sell it yet you come here and spread this garbage. Who do you think you're hurting?

I sure as hell won't be selling my coins for 3k sat no matter what you say...I have seen shit coins rise to good value so there is still my hope. I don't care what part of your story is true and what is false.. I just care about my investment just like other investors.

stop spreading rumors..whether they are false or true no one gives a shit because we simply don't care about your opinion and petty concerns.

on the other hand if you really want people to feel sorry for you...wait till Bucks has hit 10k so people can even out and they'll be on your side once they're out of the market but right now it's just annoying to see this garbage.

Either way..I have tiny amount of Bucks so I could careless what happens next but for fck sake stop this drama. no one wants to read 10 pages of garbage about how spots is evil and you're not.


No stealing going on. A thread that claims to have a new coin.......yet know mentions of anything to say hey lets start the POW phase need a pool. Beside all coins in the swap are stil in everyones wallet.


Everyone open up your old wallets and see your coins still staking. Well when you open you will have to wait for the blocks to sync. YES a dead coin still syncing block go figure
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1125558.0
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wow. someone take over gorillabucks for ffs

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1125558.msg11895706#msg11895706

Spots is not abandoning GoriilaBucks, he will just be doing way less here on Bitcointalk, due to all the crap that's been going on.
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July 16, 2015, 04:34:13 PM
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tldr;

I don't understand point of this garbage. You aren't hurting spot..you're hurting people who bought his coin by spreading this rumor. If you have problem with him then you should deal with him personally in civilized manner instead of spreading this garbage that's too long to read.

I bought MMXIV because I thought it had potential and price was falling...soon I realized that trex was going to remove it so I had to convert it to bucks. Now, I'm waiting on bucks to rise to certain price so I can sell it yet you come here and spread this garbage. Who do you think you're hurting?

I sure as hell won't be selling my coins for 3k sat no matter what you say...I have seen shit coins rise to good value so there is still my hope. I don't care what part of your story is true and what is false.. I just care about my investment just like other investors.

stop spreading rumors..whether they are false or true no one gives a shit because we simply don't care about your opinion and petty concerns.

on the other hand if you really want people to feel sorry for you...wait till Bucks has hit 10k so people can even out and they'll be on your side once they're out of the market but right now it's just annoying to see this garbage.

Either way..I have tiny amount of Bucks so I could careless what happens next but for fck sake stop this drama. no one wants to read 10 pages of garbage about how spots is evil and you're not.


Oh no. I don't need anyone to feel sorry for me. I'm doing OK and I haven't spent a penny on BUCKS.

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tldr;

I don't understand point of this garbage. You aren't hurting spot..you're hurting people who bought his coin by spreading this rumor. If you have problem with him then you should deal with him personally in civilized manner instead of spreading this garbage that's too long to read.

I bought MMXIV because I thought it had potential and price was falling...soon I realized that trex was going to remove it so I had to convert it to bucks. Now, I'm waiting on bucks to rise to certain price so I can sell it yet you come here and spread this garbage. Who do you think you're hurting?

I sure as hell won't be selling my coins for 3k sat no matter what you say...I have seen shit coins rise to good value so there is still my hope. I don't care what part of your story is true and what is false.. I just care about my investment just like other investors.

stop spreading rumors..whether they are false or true no one gives a shit because we simply don't care about your opinion and petty concerns.

on the other hand if you really want people to feel sorry for you...wait till Bucks has hit 10k so people can even out and they'll be on your side once they're out of the market but right now it's just annoying to see this garbage.

Either way..I have tiny amount of Bucks so I could careless what happens next but for fck sake stop this drama. no one wants to read 10 pages of garbage about how spots is evil and you're not.


Oh no. I don't need anyone to feel sorry for me. I'm doing OK and I haven't spent a penny on BUCKS.



Would you care to sell them to me? pm with price if interested.

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July 16, 2015, 04:47:38 PM
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Oh no. I don't need anyone to feel sorry for me. I'm doing OK and I haven't spent a penny on BUCKS.



Would you care to sell them to me? pm with price if interested.


Please bid.
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July 17, 2015, 05:07:58 PM
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Why is everyone picking on iGotspots?

I've never had a problem with him.

~BCX~

Not everyone is picking on Spots, it seems to be a Clique of troublemakers who are kicking up a fuss because they could not bully him into doing what they want Wink

He's always done right by me also.

Quoted this above and bolded it because people that have been around here for few months already and followed the drama in Spots' threads know this is a fact : there is a keyboard warriors game playin' since months now and since the bullies can't win over the "douche"-type and very impulsive temper of iGotSpots, then this escalated to all this.


Am I they only one looking at this thread and seeing a low age and/or IQ level? Just sayin' don't fight back over that last assumption please cuz it's just my thought of how this thread and actors here look like.  Undecided


this thread is full of non-sense and semi-lie. It's very pathetic to read the "info gathered" by Ricky Petrovich.  You guys don't even know how ridiculous you look like when you post here some "facts" that are simply suppositions. I can even see some patterns in the postings and replies that clearly indicate that -at least- 2 or 3 shill bct accounts are being used by one guy to help giving weight to his, sadly lost, battle.  I'm also surprised to not see vegasguy posting more here... he's such a completely ridiculous liar and mentally challenged guy that if he was posting more here, that would greatly add more lolz and facepalms to this crappy thread.

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Always fun to see the same clique of Spots girl friends twisting and turning the facts.
You girlie's are full of shit as he is, I guess that happens when you suck his dick.
Do you girls swallow everything that comes out of it ?

LMAO



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