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July 17, 2015, 05:41:39 PM
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I am wondering whether it is possible to make Bitcoin transactions untraceable or not? As long as I know, Altcoins like Monero, BitcoinDark or Dash are using different concepts in order to make transactions untraceable. Is it also possible for Bitcoin by using some extra tools?



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July 17, 2015, 06:03:12 PM
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youre probably thinking of a bitcoin mixer such as bitmixer.io
its impossible to make transactions completely untraceable, but a mixer/tumbler will make it incredibly difficult.

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July 17, 2015, 06:13:35 PM
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Xapo also claims to mix or scramble payment received so no one can track your balance if they've used a payment address in the past.

The bitmixer might be the right option for you but if you don't want to the third party involvement, check out Xapo.

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July 17, 2015, 07:09:30 PM
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use more than two exchanges and turn your bitcoin in monero or another cryptonight coin that is less known, it should be enough to hide your transactions

or another simple thing is earning bitcoin through anon stuff like,  signature campaign, mining or faucets
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July 17, 2015, 09:01:02 PM
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thanks, i already thought about the idea of using at least two exchanges to make untraceable transactions. but it is some work with some risk. it works for amount < 5BTC. Larger amounts are problematically in my eyes.

use more than two exchanges and turn your bitcoin in monero or another cryptonight coin that is less known, it should be enough to hide your transactions



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July 17, 2015, 09:03:17 PM
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Did i get something wrong? i thought Xapo is a third-party wallet provider, too.

The bitmixer might be the right option for you but if you don't want to the third party involvement, check out Xapo.



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July 17, 2015, 09:29:26 PM
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I am wondering whether it is possible to make Bitcoin transactions untraceable or not? As long as I know, Altcoins like Monero, BitcoinDark or Dash are using different concepts in order to make transactions untraceable. Is it also possible for Bitcoin by using some extra tools?

It really depends how "untraceable" you want to be.  You can use a mixer as others have suggested and pay the small fee they charge, OR you could simply send your coins as withdrawals from an exchange.    I have used cryptsy to  send coins as payments before and that is usually not very traceable(or at least very hard).    Anywhere that moves a lot of coins around and mixes coins together can work as a type of "free mixer"

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July 17, 2015, 10:32:20 PM
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You can use mixers as people have already suggested, or use CoinJoin transactions which have multiple people participate in one transaction that makes it incredibly difficult to determine who owns what output of the transaction.

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You can use mixers, but if you don't know what you're doing you can do something that dirty's your process of trying to stay untraceable. You need to have a IP protection software installed...you can also flush bitcoin around on ALTCOIN Exchanges and that that would be a pretty sweet extra mix step to the game...never use the same address twice.

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July 18, 2015, 09:06:13 AM
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Thanks for the responses so far. I see that there is no simple way. I'll try the exchange "trick" with a small amount first.



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July 18, 2015, 09:43:22 AM
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search for Zerocash. Probably we will see that as a sidechain in the future.

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July 18, 2015, 10:35:34 AM
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Did i get something wrong? i thought Xapo is a third-party wallet provider, too.

The bitmixer might be the right option for you but if you don't want to the third party involvement, check out Xapo.

you are right. but since you deposit in your address but withdrawal comes from another (or a bunch of) address(es) it can be used to mix the coins but you have to register on XAPO and give your personal information which defeats the purpose!

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July 18, 2015, 11:58:30 AM
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use more than two exchanges and turn your bitcoin in monero or another cryptonight coin that is less known, it should be enough to hide your transactions

or another simple thing is earning bitcoin through anon stuff like,  signature campaign, mining or faucets
The exchanges have no obligations to delete your personal information after you use it hence, your information would be exposed nevertheless.

Bitcoin transactions aren't anonymous but they are pseudonymous. As long as you use a mixer eg. Bitmixer.io and do not post your address online after mixing, it can't be linked to you if you set it to have a long mixing time.

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July 25, 2015, 04:03:23 PM
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If you are interested in a high level of anonymity for your existing coins, you may transfer them through several hot wallets of high volume. It could be exchanges, gambling sites, public mixers, etc. and using a chain of proxies to get a less traceable Internet connection.
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July 25, 2015, 04:12:10 PM
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Yes, this in an option. But every transfer through a hot wallet what you not control is a risk for your coins.

If you are interested in a high level of anonymity for your existing coins, you may transfer them through several hot wallets of high volume. It could be exchanges, gambling sites, public mixers, etc. and using a chain of proxies to get a less traceable Internet connection.



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July 26, 2015, 02:05:30 AM
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Yes, this in an option. But every transfer through a hot wallet what you not control is a risk for your coins.

If you are interested in a high level of anonymity for your existing coins, you may transfer them through several hot wallets of high volume. It could be exchanges, gambling sites, public mixers, etc. and using a chain of proxies to get a less traceable Internet connection.

You could try blockchain.info's "Shared Coin" (open source, based on CoinJoin) if you don't want to trust a third party.

It won't remove the link between your inputs and outputs completely. Instead, it groups multiple persons' inputs and outputs together and makes it very hard to trace the individual transaction.

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July 26, 2015, 03:39:05 AM
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You should use a mixing service to mix your coins. Never use a service with logs though.
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July 26, 2015, 08:09:40 AM
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You should use a mixing service to mix your coins. Never use a service with logs though.

People keep talking about mixing services, but what about just using a casino? They generally move all funds to a central address, and then you can cash out. I'm pretty sure that should be enough obfuscation.


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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July 27, 2015, 07:14:32 AM
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You should use a mixing service to mix your coins. Never use a service with logs though.

People keep talking about mixing services, but what about just using a casino? They generally move all funds to a central address, and then you can cash out. I'm pretty sure that should be enough obfuscation.

Casino will likely keep your transaction logs for a long period of time.
It is not a problem if you are trying to hide your coin source from your wife, but it could be a problem if you are trying to hide it from the government agency.

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July 27, 2015, 07:19:13 AM
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You should use a mixing service to mix your coins. Never use a service with logs though.

People keep talking about mixing services, but what about just using a casino? They generally move all funds to a central address, and then you can cash out. I'm pretty sure that should be enough obfuscation.

Casino will likely keep your transaction logs for a long period of time.
It is not a problem if you are trying to hide your coin source from your wife, but it could be a problem if you are trying to hide it from the government agency.

There are a lot of accountless-casinos, though. They shouldn't have logs I wouldn't think. At least nothing that's usable if you're on a proxy.


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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