Transgender

[MakingMoneyHoney]

They probably have some mental health disorder that is causing a problem, sure, but it is not because they are transgender. In Jenner’s case, it probably had something to do with being attached to that Kardashian clan for such a long time.

Don't forget all the feminization of men due to chemicals, GMOs etc.

More and more men are bitches?

Now I'm confused.

I thought it was just the transgender confused ones always bitching who were bitches.

And let's not forget about all the trans-black people too.

What are you talking about?

An equally fake, made up "problem" as the one "discussed" on this thread.  Only that I am making it up.

Ignoring a problem is no way to solve it. But I imagine this will get worse before it gets better.

Yes, people will more and more be encouraged to discuss problems that are not problems, or which are ridiculously obscure, and to take them seriously - at the same time that the real problems get zero media coverage.  It's foolish to think this isn't a purposeful strategy by the progressive US elite, to hide the fact they are bleeding the country dry.  Let's just keep the people talking about (a, b, c, total nonsense) while we run the debt up from 20 to 25 Trillion.  Hey, then lets try for 30T!

The dumb shmucks will probably let us get away with it?

Now you were intoning, what, exactly about THE "VERY SERIOUS MATTER" OF SOME FUCKING CONFUSED WACKOS GETTING THEIR FEELINGS HURT?

Tell you what.  Next I'll "really seriously answer you about this important matter of how we need to be sensitive to a very small number of people with hurt feelings."  Then we'll seriously discuss Kardashinton.  Then we'll discuss the latest Naked Reality Survival Show.

You really want to go down that route?

Or would you like to discuss Flavors of Fake Facts for Fools?

You clearly didn't read what I said (because I said nothing about any of that), and have gone off on really stupid, idiotic, off topic tangents here.

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[Spendulus]

They probably have some mental health disorder that is causing a problem, sure, but it is not because they are transgender. In Jenner’s case, it probably had something to do with being attached to that Kardashian clan for such a long time.

Don't forget all the feminization of men due to chemicals, GMOs etc.

More and more men are bitches?

Now I'm confused.

I thought it was just the transgender confused ones always bitching who were bitches.

And let's not forget about all the trans-black people too.

What are you talking about?

An equally fake, made up "problem" as the one "discussed" on this thread.  Only that I am making it up.

Ignoring a problem is no way to solve it. But I imagine this will get worse before it gets better.

Yes, people will more and more be encouraged to discuss problems that are not problems, or which are ridiculously obscure, and to take them seriously - at the same time that the real problems get zero media coverage.  It's foolish to think this isn't a purposeful strategy by the progressive US elite, to hide the fact they are bleeding the country dry.  Let's just keep the people talking about (a, b, c, total nonsense) while we run the debt up from 20 to 25 Trillion.  Hey, then lets try for 30T!

The dumb shmucks will probably let us get away with it?

Now you were intoning, what, exactly about THE "VERY SERIOUS MATTER" OF SOME FUCKING CONFUSED WACKOS GETTING THEIR FEELINGS HURT?

Tell you what.  Next I'll "really seriously answer you about this important matter of how we need to be sensitive to a very small number of people with hurt feelings."  Then we'll seriously discuss Kardashinton.  Then we'll discuss the latest Naked Reality Survival Show.

You really want to go down that route?

Or would you like to discuss Flavors of Fake Facts for Fools?

You clearly didn't read what I said (because I said nothing about any of that), and have gone off on really stupid, idiotic, off topic tangents here.

It's true that I am not disputing your comment -


Don't forget all the feminization of men due to chemicals, GMOs etc.

But I argue that the topic of the thread (and the societal issue which it echose) is stupid and idiotic...yet serves ulterior and malevolent purposes.

[cooldgamer]

They probably have some mental health disorder that is causing a problem, sure, but it is not because they are transgender. In Jenner’s case, it probably had something to do with being attached to that Kardashian clan for such a long time.

Don't forget all the feminization of men due to chemicals, GMOs etc.

More and more men are bitches?

Now I'm confused.

I thought it was just the transgender confused ones always bitching who were bitches.

And let's not forget about all the trans-black people too.

What are you talking about?

An equally fake, made up "problem" as the one "discussed" on this thread.  Only that I am making it up.

Ignoring a problem is no way to solve it. But I imagine this will get worse before it gets better.

Yes, people will more and more be encouraged to discuss problems that are not problems, or which are ridiculously obscure, and to take them seriously - at the same time that the real problems get zero media coverage.  It's foolish to think this isn't a purposeful strategy by the progressive US elite, to hide the fact they are bleeding the country dry.  Let's just keep the people talking about (a, b, c, total nonsense) while we run the debt up from 20 to 25 Trillion.  Hey, then lets try for 30T!

The dumb shmucks will probably let us get away with it?

Now you were intoning, what, exactly about THE "VERY SERIOUS MATTER" OF SOME FUCKING CONFUSED WACKOS GETTING THEIR FEELINGS HURT?

Tell you what.  Next I'll "really seriously answer you about this important matter of how we need to be sensitive to a very small number of people with hurt feelings."  Then we'll seriously discuss Kardashinton.  Then we'll discuss the latest Naked Reality Survival Show.

You really want to go down that route?

Or would you like to discuss Flavors of Fake Facts for Fools?

You clearly didn't read what I said (because I said nothing about any of that), and have gone off on really stupid, idiotic, off topic tangents here.

It's true that I am not disputing your comment -


Don't forget all the feminization of men due to chemicals, GMOs etc.

But I argue that the topic of the thread (and the societal issue which it echose) is stupid and idiotic...yet serves ulterior and malevolent purposes.

Didn't know that discussing a medical problem and the politics that surround it serves ulterior and maleviolent purposes.  Nobody ever said we can't discuss the issues you mentioned, doesn't bring any less legitimacy to these. 

[Spendulus]

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Didn't know that discussing a medical problem and the politics that surround it serves ulterior and maleviolent purposes.  Nobody ever said we can't discuss the issues you mentioned, doesn't bring any less legitimacy to these. 

Um, what medical problem?

Hasn't transgender defined itself as a confusion within the brain for which no actual, physical medical problem exists?

Regardless, putting the spotlight, the media attention, the percentage of the news, on a very small and innocuous problem, does in fact divert attention from major issues.  Legitimacy isn't the issue.  The plight of one lonely Sub Saharan farmer whose cow has been recently sick should, of course, be of legitimate importance and receive international attention.

[TECSHARE]

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Didn't know that discussing a medical problem and the politics that surround it serves ulterior and maleviolent purposes.  Nobody ever said we can't discuss the issues you mentioned, doesn't bring any less legitimacy to these.  

Um, what medical problem?

Hasn't transgender defined itself as a confusion within the brain for which no actual, physical medical problem exists?

Regardless, putting the spotlight, the media attention, the percentage of the news, on a very small and innocuous problem, does in fact divert attention from major issues.  Legitimacy isn't the issue.  The plight of one lonely Sub Saharan farmer whose cow has been recently sick should, of course, be of legitimate importance and receive international attention.

The activist groups infiltrated with Marxist socialized identity theory would have you believe there is no biological basis for these issues whatsoever. They would be wrong, there is plenty of evidence to support diagnoses such as hormonal imbalances that can cause these symptoms. Marxists love playing both sides against the middle so everyone is fighting with everyone else, and society is that much weaker and susceptible to socialism as a result. The same identity hijacking games are played with race, gender, age, religion, etc anything you can think of.

[cooldgamer]

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Didn't know that discussing a medical problem and the politics that surround it serves ulterior and maleviolent purposes.  Nobody ever said we can't discuss the issues you mentioned, doesn't bring any less legitimacy to these. 

Um, what medical problem?

Hasn't transgender defined itself as a confusion within the brain for which no actual, physical medical problem exists?

Regardless, putting the spotlight, the media attention, the percentage of the news, on a very small and innocuous problem, does in fact divert attention from major issues.  Legitimacy isn't the issue.  The plight of one lonely Sub Saharan farmer whose cow has been recently sick should, of course, be of legitimate importance and receive international attention.

150 or so studies would like to differ with your conclusion that it's just confusion

[Spendulus]

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Didn't know that discussing a medical problem and the politics that surround it serves ulterior and maleviolent purposes.  Nobody ever said we can't discuss the issues you mentioned, doesn't bring any less legitimacy to these.  

Um, what medical problem?

Hasn't transgender defined itself as a confusion within the brain for which no actual, physical medical problem exists?

Regardless, putting the spotlight, the media attention, the percentage of the news, on a very small and innocuous problem, does in fact divert attention from major issues.  Legitimacy isn't the issue.  The plight of one lonely Sub Saharan farmer whose cow has been recently sick should, of course, be of legitimate importance and receive international attention.

The activist groups infiltrated with Marxist socialized identity theory would have you believe there is no biological basis for these issues whatsoever. They would be wrong, there is plenty of evidence to support diagnoses such as hormonal imbalances that can cause these symptoms. Marxists love playing both sides against the middle so everyone is fighting with everyone else, and society is that much weaker and susceptible to socialism as a result. The same identity hijacking games are played with race, gender, age, religion, etc anything you can think of.

I think you've pretty much nailed this one.  Although it's important to emphasize that all of those propagating these myths are not culpable - the essence of propaganda is naive propagators.

[TECSHARE]

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Didn't know that discussing a medical problem and the politics that surround it serves ulterior and maleviolent purposes.  Nobody ever said we can't discuss the issues you mentioned, doesn't bring any less legitimacy to these.  

Um, what medical problem?

Hasn't transgender defined itself as a confusion within the brain for which no actual, physical medical problem exists?

Regardless, putting the spotlight, the media attention, the percentage of the news, on a very small and innocuous problem, does in fact divert attention from major issues.  Legitimacy isn't the issue.  The plight of one lonely Sub Saharan farmer whose cow has been recently sick should, of course, be of legitimate importance and receive international attention.

The activist groups infiltrated with Marxist socialized identity theory would have you believe there is no biological basis for these issues whatsoever. They would be wrong, there is plenty of evidence to support diagnoses such as hormonal imbalances that can cause these symptoms. Marxists love playing both sides against the middle so everyone is fighting with everyone else, and society is that much weaker and susceptible to socialism as a result. The same identity hijacking games are played with race, gender, age, religion, etc anything you can think of.

I think you've pretty much nailed this one.  Although it's important to emphasize that all of those propagating these myths are not culpable - the essence of propaganda is naive propagators.

Marx called them "useful idiots".

[Spendulus]

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Didn't know that discussing a medical problem and the politics that surround it serves ulterior and maleviolent purposes.  Nobody ever said we can't discuss the issues you mentioned, doesn't bring any less legitimacy to these.  

Um, what medical problem?

Hasn't transgender defined itself as a confusion within the brain for which no actual, physical medical problem exists?

Regardless, putting the spotlight, the media attention, the percentage of the news, on a very small and innocuous problem, does in fact divert attention from major issues.  Legitimacy isn't the issue.  The plight of one lonely Sub Saharan farmer whose cow has been recently sick should, of course, be of legitimate importance and receive international attention.

The activist groups infiltrated with Marxist socialized identity theory would have you believe there is no biological basis for these issues whatsoever. They would be wrong, there is plenty of evidence to support diagnoses such as hormonal imbalances that can cause these symptoms. Marxists love playing both sides against the middle so everyone is fighting with everyone else, and society is that much weaker and susceptible to socialism as a result. The same identity hijacking games are played with race, gender, age, religion, etc anything you can think of.

I think you've pretty much nailed this one.  Although it's important to emphasize that all of those propagating these myths are not culpable - the essence of propaganda is naive propagators.

Marx called them "useful idiots".

Okay, so just to finish off the barrel of propaganda under the subheading "Transgender Discussion."

What if guys were male physically, female and Lesbian psychically.  And women were women physically, but men psychically and gay.   

So that makes 98% of us "normal. 

But, do you see the Depth of the Problem?  We should all talk about it and be sure we are sensitive to people like me.  Because people can hurt.  And hurt is bad.  Let's all sit in a circle and hold hands and sing and talk about our warm happy fuzzy basket of feelings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYJMtn6IJeE

[Sourgummies]

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Didn't know that discussing a medical problem and the politics that surround it serves ulterior and maleviolent purposes.  Nobody ever said we can't discuss the issues you mentioned, doesn't bring any less legitimacy to these. 

Um, what medical problem?

Hasn't transgender defined itself as a confusion within the brain for which no actual, physical medical problem exists?

Regardless, putting the spotlight, the media attention, the percentage of the news, on a very small and innocuous problem, does in fact divert attention from major issues.  Legitimacy isn't the issue.  The plight of one lonely Sub Saharan farmer whose cow has been recently sick should, of course, be of legitimate importance and receive international attention.

You could literally go through every post in here with the same mindset and attempt to direct people in a set direction and more towards the field that you feel needs more discussion.  The problem with that is people will get their backs up more than come to the reasoning you would like the public to grasp.
In doing so one comes off more like a forum gestapo than some one that is attempting to show people the light.
Stating that this discussion is coming to a close is not for any one person to decide,maybe a mod.
That said medical is also mental,so it does extend to the medical field,moot point but thought I would touch on it.

So to address the issue you are talking about I agree with you to a extent about other topics not getting the needed attention.
If we can show holes in one subject we can eventually open more doors for people that are still watching the news and taking it as gospel.
The more doors we can open the more we can get this idea out and about.

Really the reason I started this subject to begin with was I was really confused by it.  Was hoping a open dialogue that did not go to far down the rabbit hole could help some of us that feel the same way I do.  This is not my attempt to push some propaganda on the forum,you will find I like going down the rabbit hole but at the same time quite new to thinking outside the box.  Also scared to become a little to much like Alex Jones in doing so and seek a balance.

[Spendulus]

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Didn't know that discussing a medical problem and the politics that surround it serves ulterior and maleviolent purposes.  Nobody ever said we can't discuss the issues you mentioned, doesn't bring any less legitimacy to these. 

Um, what medical problem?

Hasn't transgender defined itself as a confusion within the brain for which no actual, physical medical problem exists?

Regardless, putting the spotlight, the media attention, the percentage of the news, on a very small and innocuous problem, does in fact divert attention from major issues.  Legitimacy isn't the issue.  The plight of one lonely Sub Saharan farmer whose cow has been recently sick should, of course, be of legitimate importance and receive international attention.

You could literally go through every post in here with the same mindset and attempt to direct people in a set direction and more towards the field that you feel needs more discussion.  The problem with that is people will get their backs up more than come to the reasoning you would like the public to grasp.
In doing so one comes off more like a forum gestapo than some one that is attempting to show people the light.
Stating that this discussion is coming to a close is not for any one person to decide,maybe a mod.
That said medical is also mental,so it does extend to the medical field,moot point but thought I would touch on it.

So to address the issue you are talking about I agree with you to a extent about other topics not getting the needed attention.
If we can show holes in one subject we can eventually open more doors for people that are still watching the news and taking it as gospel.
The more doors we can open the more we can get this idea out and about.

Really the reason I started this subject to begin with was I was really confused by it.  Was hoping a open dialogue that did not go to far down the rabbit hole could help some of us that feel the same way I do.  This is not my attempt to push some propaganda on the forum,you will find I like going down the rabbit hole but at the same time quite new to thinking outside the box.  Also scared to become a little to much like Alex Jones in doing so and seek a balance.

Having worked in mental hospitals and seen some suicides, delt with people who continually for the rest of their life hallucinating from LSD overdose, depressives who had zero purpose, axe murderers who became babies after they were sedated, guys that believed they were Napoleon, and seen a great deal of people with real problems, please forgive me if I laugh a the outrageous suggestion that we need some sensitivity in our relations with out gender confused brethren.

[Sourgummies]

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Didn't know that discussing a medical problem and the politics that surround it serves ulterior and maleviolent purposes.  Nobody ever said we can't discuss the issues you mentioned, doesn't bring any less legitimacy to these. 

Um, what medical problem?

Hasn't transgender defined itself as a confusion within the brain for which no actual, physical medical problem exists?

Regardless, putting the spotlight, the media attention, the percentage of the news, on a very small and innocuous problem, does in fact divert attention from major issues.  Legitimacy isn't the issue.  The plight of one lonely Sub Saharan farmer whose cow has been recently sick should, of course, be of legitimate importance and receive international attention.

You could literally go through every post in here with the same mindset and attempt to direct people in a set direction and more towards the field that you feel needs more discussion.  The problem with that is people will get their backs up more than come to the reasoning you would like the public to grasp.
In doing so one comes off more like a forum gestapo than some one that is attempting to show people the light.
Stating that this discussion is coming to a close is not for any one person to decide,maybe a mod.
That said medical is also mental,so it does extend to the medical field,moot point but thought I would touch on it.

So to address the issue you are talking about I agree with you to a extent about other topics not getting the needed attention.
If we can show holes in one subject we can eventually open more doors for people that are still watching the news and taking it as gospel.
The more doors we can open the more we can get this idea out and about.

Really the reason I started this subject to begin with was I was really confused by it.  Was hoping a open dialogue that did not go to far down the rabbit hole could help some of us that feel the same way I do.  This is not my attempt to push some propaganda on the forum,you will find I like going down the rabbit hole but at the same time quite new to thinking outside the box.  Also scared to become a little to much like Alex Jones in doing so and seek a balance.

Having worked in mental hospitals and seen some suicides, delt with people who continually for the rest of their life hallucinating from LSD overdose, depressives who had zero purpose, axe murderers who became babies after they were sedated, guys that believed they were Napoleon, and seen a great deal of people with real problems, please forgive me if I laugh a the outrageous suggestion that we need some sensitivity in our relations with out gender confused brethren.

Fair enough but this has little to do with what I wrote to you. This is kind of why I responded to your last post, it felt definitive and a tad offtopic. This reply is using a unverifable work experience to make a point.  Its like some one stating they have drowned and unless you have drowned you have no expertise on the topic.
Think most of us are in agreement on the hype around the subject.

[cooldgamer]

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Didn't know that discussing a medical problem and the politics that surround it serves ulterior and maleviolent purposes.  Nobody ever said we can't discuss the issues you mentioned, doesn't bring any less legitimacy to these. 

Um, what medical problem?

Hasn't transgender defined itself as a confusion within the brain for which no actual, physical medical problem exists?

Regardless, putting the spotlight, the media attention, the percentage of the news, on a very small and innocuous problem, does in fact divert attention from major issues.  Legitimacy isn't the issue.  The plight of one lonely Sub Saharan farmer whose cow has been recently sick should, of course, be of legitimate importance and receive international attention.

You could literally go through every post in here with the same mindset and attempt to direct people in a set direction and more towards the field that you feel needs more discussion.  The problem with that is people will get their backs up more than come to the reasoning you would like the public to grasp.
In doing so one comes off more like a forum gestapo than some one that is attempting to show people the light.
Stating that this discussion is coming to a close is not for any one person to decide,maybe a mod.
That said medical is also mental,so it does extend to the medical field,moot point but thought I would touch on it.

So to address the issue you are talking about I agree with you to a extent about other topics not getting the needed attention.
If we can show holes in one subject we can eventually open more doors for people that are still watching the news and taking it as gospel.
The more doors we can open the more we can get this idea out and about.

Really the reason I started this subject to begin with was I was really confused by it.  Was hoping a open dialogue that did not go to far down the rabbit hole could help some of us that feel the same way I do.  This is not my attempt to push some propaganda on the forum,you will find I like going down the rabbit hole but at the same time quite new to thinking outside the box.  Also scared to become a little to much like Alex Jones in doing so and seek a balance.

Having worked in mental hospitals and seen some suicides, delt with people who continually for the rest of their life hallucinating from LSD overdose, depressives who had zero purpose, axe murderers who became babies after they were sedated, guys that believed they were Napoleon, and seen a great deal of people with real problems, please forgive me if I laugh a the outrageous suggestion that we need some sensitivity in our relations with out gender confused brethren.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-emotion

[Spendulus]

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Think most of us are in agreement on the hype around the subject.

Okay.

[Spendulus]

.......This reply is using a unverifable work experience to make a point.  Its like some one stating they have drowned and unless you have drowned you have no expertise on the topic.

This is an interesting reply because the verification is...

"I say so!"

It is on a topic in which the truth of an allegation of "transgenderism" is an individual saying....

"I say so!"

Somehow that's interesting....

lol...

[Sourgummies]

I have to admit that is funny.

[Zz]

whoever is born a man is a man, these folks are mentally ill and need treatment, if they told you they were ducks or aliens from outer space trapped in human beings' bodies would you believe them

Look who's mentally ill and need treatment here. Here's your free mirror:


I hope medicines will work for you.

[Spendulus]

whoever is born a man is a man, these folks are mentally ill and need treatment, if they told you they were ducks or aliens from outer space trapped in human beings' bodies would you believe them

Look who's mentally ill and need treatment here. Here's your free mirror:


I hope medicines will work for you.

Not sure why saddamphbuh hasn't made a good analogy.

Some people do believe they are Napoleon.  But they are crazy, not right.

At the least one would have to split the group of "transgenders" into (A) crazy (B) confused (C) right "in their own mind"

[cooldgamer]

whoever is born a man is a man, these folks are mentally ill and need treatment, if they told you they were ducks or aliens from outer space trapped in human beings' bodies would you believe them

Look who's mentally ill and need treatment here. Here's your free mirror:


I hope medicines will work for you.

Not sure why saddamphbuh hasn't made a good analogy.

Some people do believe they are Napoleon.  But they are crazy, not right.

That's not a valid analogy at all.  You don't have a 50% chance of being Napoleon before you are born, and its not possible for a brain to develop and make you half Napoleon based on hormones getting screwed up. 

[Spendulus]

whoever is born a man is a man, these folks are mentally ill and need treatment, if they told you they were ducks or aliens from outer space trapped in human beings' bodies would you believe them

Look who's mentally ill and need treatment here. Here's your free mirror:


I hope medicines will work for you.

Not sure why saddamphbuh hasn't made a good analogy.

Some people do believe they are Napoleon.  But they are crazy, not right.

That's not a valid analogy at all.  You don't have a 50% chance of being Napoleon before you are born, and its not possible for a brain to develop and make you half Napoleon based on hormones getting screwed up.  

oh, hormones.  But now you are into easily measured physical quantities that collaborate mental feelings and subjective viewports.

You are no longer in the realm of "I believe, therefore IT IS."

I do wonder though what saddam would say concerning an issue of hormone "evidence."