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July 20, 2015, 07:31:24 AM
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100% positive it belongs to BitFinex.

Why would it belong to BitFinex...? I find no relation to all the micro-transactions going in day after day?

stab in the dark could be an owners "profit wallet"  percentage of fees scheduled sent there on transactions.
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July 20, 2015, 07:35:54 AM
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100% positive it belongs to BitFinex.

Why would it belong to BitFinex...? I find no relation to all the micro-transactions going in day after day?
Apparently the people behind the spam attack were sending the dust transactions to many publicly known addresses. One such is this one. Wiki Leaks and many others have also been receiving those transactions as well as known brainwallet ones. As for why, I don't know.

So the logic is that the dust transactions are being sent to many publicly available addresses as well as this one, believed to belong to Bitfinex.  The question is why were the large deposits for this Bitfinex address filled from an address allegedly associated with mtgox?

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July 20, 2015, 07:45:23 AM
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https://blockchain.info/address/39coweGgC8CPZ6hYL1BBEfc1zqbSfHsprW

I was having some fun exploring the blockchain for weird looking addresses and apparently this is the biggest address ever, and has tons of small micro transactions incoming. What are those transactionsa about? Is this some sort of mining related address??
Oh, don't mind that. It's just my weekend petticash spending wallet.



That's some sick joke around here. Cheesy

Oh, is there any proof it's Bitfinex? This is really mysterious and I'm interested in this kind of stuff!
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July 20, 2015, 08:22:07 AM
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It's probably Bitfinex.
They have made a transaction to: 122JyMtGtiiP4mMFn86tAGfrqiyhXAnrrk
Which apparently is a Bitfinex address.
More details: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/36v29t/bitfinex_hack2252015_1459_bitcoins_lost/
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July 20, 2015, 08:47:04 AM
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It's probably Bitfinex.
They have made a transaction to: 122JyMtGtiiP4mMFn86tAGfrqiyhXAnrrk
Which apparently is a Bitfinex address.
More details: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/36v29t/bitfinex_hack2252015_1459_bitcoins_lost/

Thanks for useful links and sources. I'm checking it now Smiley
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July 20, 2015, 09:17:56 AM
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Within a month of the first money being deposited in that address, someone picked up on that, and started to beg for money. < Public Note: Good afternoon! Your help is necessary. My wife has a problem with health, treatment is necessary (we expect a baby). If you have some unnecessary btc or satosh, please, help, we will rejoice any help.>

I wonder how successfull these people are, because he continues to spam other people with other requests.
https://blockchain.info/address/1D6h6TLPrNotHsaJNrdXuPj3ZdHxMNwTGW

Most of his spam, was for the same amount of BTC as the other 0.00001 transactions.

How much transaction fee's did all these 0.00001 transactions accumelate?
 

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July 20, 2015, 09:20:14 AM
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Within a month of the first money being deposited in that address, someone picked up on that, and started to beg for money. < Public Note: Good afternoon! Your help is necessary. My wife has a problem with health, treatment is necessary (we expect a baby). If you have some unnecessary btc or satosh, please, help, we will rejoice any help.>

I wonder how successfull these people are, because he continues to spam other people with other requests.
https://blockchain.info/address/1D6h6TLPrNotHsaJNrdXuPj3ZdHxMNwTGW

How much transaction fee's did all these 0.00001 transactions accumelate?
 

He can easily send this spam to all addresses at once and pay one fee instead of this. He is dumb.
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July 20, 2015, 09:34:11 AM
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Kind of reminds me of that micro transaction that they sent as part of stress test to overload the network. But it couldn't be that. Also, if I scroll down further, what I can see are actually some form of 'begging' going on while there are others who use it for cheap advertising by leaving comment on the page. But the key point is not about that small transactions. It's the whopping 215k btc in that address.  Shocked

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July 20, 2015, 10:09:12 AM
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Then that makes sense for an exchange to hold and have continuous micro transactions funneling through this address. Thanks for this observation. Now some people can sleep soundly tonight  Wink

Not really.. Why would an exchange funnel micro transactions to their cold storage? Their hot wallet would make more sense, but that would definitely not contain this amount of coins..
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July 20, 2015, 10:16:40 AM
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Then that makes sense for an exchange to hold and have continuous micro transactions funneling through this address. Thanks for this observation. Now some people can sleep soundly tonight  Wink

Not really.. Why would an exchange funnel micro transactions to their cold storage? Their hot wallet would make more sense, but that would definitely not contain this amount of coins..

None of the theories here make sense to me except the spam test one. Who would test a ton of times with a small transaction before sending a big one? just one small test is enough if you are paranoid about your transaction not going through or something.
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July 20, 2015, 10:20:21 AM
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100% positive it belongs to BitFinex.

Why would it belong to BitFinex...? I find no relation to all the micro-transactions going in day after day?
Apparently the people behind the spam attack were sending the dust transactions to many publicly known addresses. One such is this one. Wiki Leaks and many others have also been receiving those transactions as well as known brainwallet ones. As for why, I don't know.

So the logic is that the dust transactions are being sent to many publicly available addresses as well as this one, believed to belong to Bitfinex.  The question is why were the large deposits for this Bitfinex address filled from an address allegedly associated with mtgox?

it could be, that many think bitfinex was a safe place to send money from mtgox, when this one was going to bankrupt? or just bot moving large amount of profit from the mtgox-doge era to bitfinex

it should be interestin to see if there are other large address that are pointing to cold storage of other big exchanges, to investigate better on this subject
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July 20, 2015, 01:32:15 PM
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ALL the 0.00001 BTC dust stems from https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1GsGCXCvN48Wd2fX8M9Xtgc5Vp1dJZetyQ, perhaps to stress [test?] the network.
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July 20, 2015, 02:03:11 PM
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A lot of the addresses that were used to fund the large amount of btc also received a bunch of those dust txs.
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July 20, 2015, 03:19:04 PM
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Sure it is a lot of BC !!

Is it Bitfinex ?
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July 20, 2015, 03:26:13 PM
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Sure it is a lot of BC !!

Is it Bitfinex ?

read the friggin thread. no one knows for sure as there's not enough evidence. Gleb seems sure about it but his opinions can't be taken seriously  Tongue

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July 20, 2015, 03:49:34 PM
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Thanks, now I also know that http://bitcoinrichlist.com/top100 is outdated.
The address is not included in the list, who knows how many more.
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July 20, 2015, 03:53:07 PM
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Thanks, now I also know that http://bitcoinrichlist.com/top100 is outdated.
The address is not included in the list, who knows how many more.

This list is only for TOP 100 with "Total Received" not "Final Balance".
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July 20, 2015, 03:56:23 PM
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Thanks, now I also know that http://bitcoinrichlist.com/top100 is outdated.
The address is not included in the list, who knows how many more.

This list is only for TOP 100 with "Total Received" not "Final Balance".

How can you have so many bitcoins without receiving them?
Also, every address I click on that site has same amount for both received and final balance.
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July 20, 2015, 04:04:13 PM
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Thanks, now I also know that http://bitcoinrichlist.com/top100 is outdated.
The address is not included in the list, who knows how many more.

This list is only for TOP 100 with "Total Received" not "Final Balance".

How can you have so many bitcoins without receiving them?
Also, every address I click on that site has same amount for both received and final balance.

That's BS. If I have 200000 BTC and address above me has 390000, I can just generate new address, send my 200000 BTC to the new address and then send it back and I'm above him now.
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July 20, 2015, 05:37:10 PM
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http://bitcoinrichlist.com/top100

is FUBAR.

Take the first address listed:

1   $ 46,548,540.28   167,784.81160667   19KJZ5aqWnrrCaNAS5Pbd4uknPFBxjALRt      58   Apr 2, 2015 11:52:36 AM   
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But if you actually look at the address directly, even through the link they give you on there own detail page:

https://blockchain.info/address/19KJZ5aqWnrrCaNAS5Pbd4uknPFBxjALRt

0.01084108 BTC

So, you cannot trust that list, it needs to be fixed.

I did not check them all but the first three are wrong.


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