Selling BTC 0.700 for €184.23. Skrill/PayPal [ESCROW]

[BitNow]

I will do this if we use a forum escrow. I can pay the fees. My skrill is in EUR as well.

That is forum escrow and this is the link to the original thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169957.0

I don't want to use a 3-ways escrow, I want to use a 2-ways escrow (BIP38 compliant).

[santa_marta]

just interested... why are you avoiding forum escrow ? It is obvious that should you accept one, you wouldve probably done the trade by now - so its not about time. It is also not about fees since I will cover those. Just curious for the answer, thanks.

[BitNow]

just interested... why are you avoiding forum escrow ? It is obvious that should you accept one, you wouldve probably done the trade by now - so its not about time. It is also not about fees since I will cover those. Just curious for the answer, thanks.

Bitcoin is the most advanced technology we have for transferring value, so it is really stupid to use an old style guarantor (human escrow or 3-way escrow).

It's like buying a Ferrari and running it on Diesel.
 
EDIT: this is an forum escrow https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169957.0

This transaction can be done in 5 minutes without the need for a human escrow.

[santa_marta]

just interested... why are you avoiding forum escrow ? It is obvious that should you accept one, you wouldve probably done the trade by now - so its not about time. It is also not about fees since I will cover those. Just curious for the answer, thanks.

Bitcoin is the most advanced technology we have for transferring value, so it is really stupid to use an old style guarantor (human escrow or 3-way escrow).

It's like buying a Ferrari and running it on Diesel.

  

if the ferrari went 25% faster on diesel and the diesel is 25% cheaper I dont see a reason not to use diesel. I see 2 logical reason why you want to use that web escrow. Either you want to advertise it or you want to scam. It seems that it doesnt matter to you if you actually exchange the bitcoins, if that was your primary motive you wouldve accepted the offers above.

Can you provide a signed msg. of address containing the bitcoins ?

[BitNow]

if the ferrari went 25% faster on diesel and the diesel is 25% cheaper I dont see a reason not to use diesel.

If you are rich you don't drive on Diesel.

I see 2 logical reason why you want to use that web escrow. Either you want to advertise it or you want to scam. It seems that it doesnt matter to you if you actually exchange the bitcoins, if that was your primary motive you wouldve accepted the offers above.

I want to use the most advanced technology available today. I don't want to drive a Ferrari on Diesel.

I can assure you that I do need money.

Can you provide a signed msg. of address containing the bitcoins ?

Address: 1CQfPnxWTnAhGFsQhq6r6bm4cVQJ3KJTqQ
Message:

Code:

This address is owned by BitNow
18:00 CET 07/22/2015

Signature: H5jnv11darfWg9dudYBUqgVQlbaR3cC/4kUYiR3vDQ5jC5nkMMi+RCPFCaMrw7Vl19fS6InhOPniG/XDaUlHCl0=

Address: 1CgJ3M9kweRAhpjRWAZYvE3UL8cpTjAox1
Message:

Code:

This address is owned by BitNow
18:00 CET 07/22/2015

Signature: H+b23GCQa1JA5AahLMoEYB5NnSFUmbkKTqZrOOQ/wy0YG1EI4rhG55uJO+y60c/Xmj7trObzgxibm8Jk1nthGlg=

[santa_marta]

Give me 5 minutes: bitcoins are spread across multiple addresses (as per bitcoin-qt wallet) I'll move all to the one I have signed.

Address: 1CQfPnxWTnAhGFsQhq6r6bm4cVQJ3KJTqQ
Message:
Code:
This address is owned by BitNow
18:00 CET 07/22/2015
Signature: H5jnv11darfWg9dudYBUqgVQlbaR3cC/4kUYiR3vDQ5jC5nkMMi+RCPFCaMrw7Vl19fS6InhOPniG/XDaUlHCl0=

Address: 1CgJ3M9kweRAhpjRWAZYvE3UL8cpTjAox1
Message:
Code:
This address is owned by BitNow
18:00 CET 07/22/2015
Signature: H+b23GCQa1JA5AahLMoEYB5NnSFUmbkKTqZrOOQ/wy0YG1EI4rhG55uJO+y60c/Xmj7trObzgxibm8Jk1nthGlg=

thanks,
My offer still stands for forum escrow. By signing the addresses you will at least prove you have them so maybe somebody will use that new escrow.

[zazarb]

just interested... why are you avoiding forum escrow ? It is obvious that should you accept one, you wouldve probably done the trade by now - so its not about time. It is also not about fees since I will cover those. Just curious for the answer, thanks.

Bitcoin is the most advanced technology we have for transferring value, so it is really stupid to use an old style guarantor (human escrow or 3-way escrow).

It's like buying a Ferrari and running it on Diesel.
  

off topic
why not running with diesel if:
Audi Since its debut in 1999, the brand with the Four Rings had won the world’s most important endurance race as many as nine times with the R8, R10 TDI and R15 TDI models

[BitNow]

thanks,
My offer still stands for forum escrow. By signing the addresses you will at least prove you have them so maybe somebody will use that new escrow.

Original thread for that escrow is dated 04/07/2013
Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169957.0

Previous domain was www.bit2factor.org after 2 years domain expired and it was renewed on 04/08/2015 as www.bit2factor.com that is why not so many people knows it.

This is not a new escrow.

Transaction with that method can be done in 5 minutes without the need for human escrows, if you think I'm scamming you we could do for half of the sum.

BTC0.2725 for €70.46.

[BitNow]

Anybody?

We could do the transaction in 5 minutes: with the escrow I'm using there is no time lost in contacting a human escrow and pay him/her the fees.

[santa_marta]

Anybody?

We could do the transaction in 5 minutes: with the escrow I'm using there is no time lost in contacting a human escrow and pay him/her the fees.

havent chagned your mind ?

[BitNow]

havent chagned your mind ?

I never change my mind.

We could use DevScrow if it's more suitable to you, but you need to pay the fees.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=708658.0

Also with users with the status newbie I don't exchange through PayPal it is too risky.

We could exchange trough Skrill. Please let me know.

Thanks.

[santa_marta]

havent chagned your mind ?

I never change my mind.

We could use DevScrow if it's more suitable to you, but you need to pay the fees.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=708658.0

Also with users with the status newbie I don't exchange through PayPal it is too risky.

We could exchange trough Skrill. Please let me know.

Thanks.

i only have skrill, 0,55 for 140.92 eur and I will cover the fees for devscrow.

[cedivad]

This guy posted nonsense for weeks in the Italian forum and now is here begging for people to send first.

Where is my popcorn gif?

[BitNow]

This guy posted nonsense for weeks in the Italian forum and now is here begging for people to send first.

Where is my popcorn gif?

What means something in a language can be nonsense to another.

[santa_marta]

This guy posted nonsense for weeks in the Italian forum and now is here begging for people to send first.

Where is my popcorn gif?

What means something in a language can be nonsense to another.

so? You didnt respond to me

[BitNow]

i only have skrill, 0,55 for 140.92 eur and I will cover the fees for devscrow.

Pm sent.

[btctxns]

A facepalm gif would have been more appropriate.

I know you won't listen, but just in case you are the slightest bit reasonable: Please stop this. Work with legitimate, known escrows such as those on this site or on LBC. Your claim that you want to save time is obviously bullshit since you've simply ended up wasting a significant amount of time arguing for the use of this third-party, untrusted escrow. This is so childish and uncalled for.

No one is going to bite.

/thread.

[BitNow]

A facepalm gif would have been more appropriate.

I know you won't listen, but just in case you are the slightest bit reasonable: Please stop this. Work with legitimate, known escrows such as those on this site or on LBC. Your claim that you want to save time is obviously bullshit since you've simply ended up wasting a significant amount of time arguing for the use of this third-party, untrusted escrow. This is so childish and uncalled for.

No one is going to bite.

/thread.

This is OT.

[TheKoziTwo]

For the record I did two trades with BitNow using https://bit2factor.com/ as escrow. He first recommended an italian version of it, which I didn't really trust since I can't read Italian. So I did some research and found bit2factor. It's really cool, even if you don't intend to trade, check it out. Download the source code and run it on your computer, don't use the website.

I can't vouch for the source code itself, but I didn't find anything indicating scam based on my research AND I did two trades with BitNow successfully. He sent the BTC first into the escrow address, then I transferred the PayPal Funds, then he sent me the encryption key. It really is a very awesome way to do deals without third parties and I'll definitively use this in the future. Play around with it, see what you think.

[btctxns]

A facepalm gif would have been more appropriate.

I know you won't listen, but just in case you are the slightest bit reasonable: Please stop this. Work with legitimate, known escrows such as those on this site or on LBC. Your claim that you want to save time is obviously bullshit since you've simply ended up wasting a significant amount of time arguing for the use of this third-party, untrusted escrow. This is so childish and uncalled for.

No one is going to bite.

/thread.

This is OT.

No, actually it's addressing the topic quite directly. I am sorry that you are unable to see that.