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August 11, 2015, 12:18:06 PM |
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dice i make some money from that and sometime lose for dice but never can leave from gambling or dice xD -AFK
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ashfaq
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August 11, 2015, 03:10:12 PM |
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no luck In a matter of fact, dice is all about luck . There is nothing much you can do except totally "hope for the best" that you might get yourself lucky because the numbers get tampered Totally wrong unless you play in a non-provably fair site or a rigged site like 999dice. Every dice sites that have provably fair wont tamper your bet result because players could check it easily and if someone finds out that the site is rigged than they are destroying their own reputation ( like what dicebitcoin did ). If you totally think your bet was tampered than simply prove it and present the proof in public therefore you can easily destroy their reputation, otherwise you are just being unlucky . the only thing from which u can make money is 'short term variance' that is like investing and making 10 % in under 50 rolls Variance is also about probability as you can always lose more than 10 % in under 50 rolls or so in this way u can profit before the system gets u and as far as legends r concerned u r right they r legends because they start gambling with a ton load of BTC.. so there 20% is like 30 coins..
False and this is a total fallacy nothing more. Im not sure where do you play dice at but this is nonsense because it is not always a guarantee that you will win early in the games well buddy dont want to argue on this but , if the numbers r not tampered then why do i always get 30 reds at 50% chance while martingale and never got more than 10 reds while manually playing any other multiplier ?? Plus u have a better chance to win in the starting rolls because it takes time for the algorithm to understand the sequence ur playing and eventually u end up in a sequence which dosent suites your gambling strategy ..and dude u clearly dont understand how the numbers r tampered ,u can never catch if the numbers r tampered or not because the random numbers that is chosen generally on all dice sites are done by their algorithm or by their designed system not by yours and u cant fight why this is chosen and not that, so u get the same results as they get but the number was not really a RANDOM when u martingale there is a very less chance to get busted in the beginning rolls but there is a 100000% chance that u get busted as soon as the rolls increase because eventually u end up in a sequence that dosent suite ur method etc.. and plus this is all maths and probabilities everything is approx..and i never gave anyone a guarantee loll... RELAX . Of course there is a less chance to bust on the begining rolls, there is in fact no chance if you need 20 loses to bust and you are only rolling 10, whats your point? my point is if u just dont get greedy and cashout earlier, like 20 % profits then u have a chance to make profits
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Bardman (OP)
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August 11, 2015, 04:25:50 PM |
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no luck In a matter of fact, dice is all about luck . There is nothing much you can do except totally "hope for the best" that you might get yourself lucky because the numbers get tampered Totally wrong unless you play in a non-provably fair site or a rigged site like 999dice. Every dice sites that have provably fair wont tamper your bet result because players could check it easily and if someone finds out that the site is rigged than they are destroying their own reputation ( like what dicebitcoin did ). If you totally think your bet was tampered than simply prove it and present the proof in public therefore you can easily destroy their reputation, otherwise you are just being unlucky . the only thing from which u can make money is 'short term variance' that is like investing and making 10 % in under 50 rolls Variance is also about probability as you can always lose more than 10 % in under 50 rolls or so in this way u can profit before the system gets u and as far as legends r concerned u r right they r legends because they start gambling with a ton load of BTC.. so there 20% is like 30 coins..
False and this is a total fallacy nothing more. Im not sure where do you play dice at but this is nonsense because it is not always a guarantee that you will win early in the games well buddy dont want to argue on this but , if the numbers r not tampered then why do i always get 30 reds at 50% chance while martingale and never got more than 10 reds while manually playing any other multiplier ?? Plus u have a better chance to win in the starting rolls because it takes time for the algorithm to understand the sequence ur playing and eventually u end up in a sequence which dosent suites your gambling strategy ..and dude u clearly dont understand how the numbers r tampered ,u can never catch if the numbers r tampered or not because the random numbers that is chosen generally on all dice sites are done by their algorithm or by their designed system not by yours and u cant fight why this is chosen and not that, so u get the same results as they get but the number was not really a RANDOM when u martingale there is a very less chance to get busted in the beginning rolls but there is a 100000% chance that u get busted as soon as the rolls increase because eventually u end up in a sequence that dosent suite ur method etc.. and plus this is all maths and probabilities everything is approx..and i never gave anyone a guarantee loll... RELAX . Of course there is a less chance to bust on the begining rolls, there is in fact no chance if you need 20 loses to bust and you are only rolling 10, whats your point? my point is if u just dont get greedy and cashout earlier, like 20 % profits then u have a chance to make profits I dont see how cashing out early would give you profit, you can only get profit if you are ahead and stop FOREVER, quitting early just to play later makes you lose in the end
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arallmuus
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August 11, 2015, 10:18:17 PM |
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Im not literally "the man" and my purposes to counter your argument would be to tell you the truth about it. When I was getting into BTC at the first time, I gambled in freebitco.in as well and thought that the site must be rigged because I keep on losing . Things changed after I learn what is it mean to play in a provably fair sites and how to verify my own bet and ever since that I have no issue with thinking that the site is rigged anymore if I can verify it my own. Therefore Im always being skeptical when I see someone stating that XYZ dice site is rigged because I got a "lost streak". Kinda funny to see someone blame a site whenever they have a huge lost streak while in fact that no one ever complain when they got a winning streak I dont see how cashing out early would give you profit
Variance play its part and it is just another superstition. Some people believe that if he doesnt chase his loses and only wager no less than few times would grant him profit. It could be true if variances play its part well or that it could make someone lose more
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adaseb
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August 11, 2015, 10:22:02 PM |
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no luck In a matter of fact, dice is all about luck . There is nothing much you can do except totally "hope for the best" that you might get yourself lucky because the numbers get tampered Totally wrong unless you play in a non-provably fair site or a rigged site like 999dice. Every dice sites that have provably fair wont tamper your bet result because players could check it easily and if someone finds out that the site is rigged than they are destroying their own reputation ( like what dicebitcoin did ). If you totally think your bet was tampered than simply prove it and present the proof in public therefore you can easily destroy their reputation, otherwise you are just being unlucky . the only thing from which u can make money is 'short term variance' that is like investing and making 10 % in under 50 rolls Variance is also about probability as you can always lose more than 10 % in under 50 rolls or so in this way u can profit before the system gets u and as far as legends r concerned u r right they r legends because they start gambling with a ton load of BTC.. so there 20% is like 30 coins..
False and this is a total fallacy nothing more. Im not sure where do you play dice at but this is nonsense because it is not always a guarantee that you will win early in the games well buddy dont want to argue on this but , if the numbers r not tampered then why do i always get 30 reds at 50% chance while martingale and never got more than 10 reds while manually playing any other multiplier ?? Plus u have a better chance to win in the starting rolls because it takes time for the algorithm to understand the sequence ur playing and eventually u end up in a sequence which dosent suites your gambling strategy ..and dude u clearly dont understand how the numbers r tampered ,u can never catch if the numbers r tampered or not because the random numbers that is chosen generally on all dice sites are done by their algorithm or by their designed system not by yours and u cant fight why this is chosen and not that, so u get the same results as they get but the number was not really a RANDOM when u martingale there is a very less chance to get busted in the beginning rolls but there is a 100000% chance that u get busted as soon as the rolls increase because eventually u end up in a sequence that dosent suite ur method etc.. and plus this is all maths and probabilities everything is approx..and i never gave anyone a guarantee loll... RELAX . Of course there is a less chance to bust on the begining rolls, there is in fact no chance if you need 20 loses to bust and you are only rolling 10, whats your point? my point is if u just dont get greedy and cashout earlier, like 20 % profits then u have a chance to make profits I dont see how cashing out early would give you profit, you can only get profit if you are ahead and stop FOREVER, quitting early just to play later makes you lose in the end I think he means to just take your profits when you see them and don't look back instead of gambling and gambling and losing all your earnings and account balance.
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August 11, 2015, 10:32:46 PM |
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It seems like every dice site says 'provably fair' when in reality the dice are rigged...50/50 odds shouldn't be so imbalanced lol
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arallmuus
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August 11, 2015, 10:41:03 PM |
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It seems like every dice site says 'provably fair' when in reality the dice are rigged...50/50 odds shouldn't be so imbalanced lol
You are pretty much wrong on this, provably fair doesnt mean that the site could not be rigged but provably fair is making the site harder to be able to cheat because if they are attempting to do so then someone could notice it. Apart from that, you got another wrong statement there, it is actually not imbalanced but the house edge is applied to these games which ensure the house would get profit in a long run so it is kinda "rigged" in a good manner which is pretty common
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August 11, 2015, 11:50:13 PM |
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It seems like every dice site says 'provably fair' when in reality the dice are rigged...50/50 odds shouldn't be so imbalanced lol
Think about it, If players keep on winning they wouldn't be around for so long besides if you have played in a real casino, pretty much you have the same odds in a online dice or casino site.
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August 12, 2015, 01:20:00 AM |
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dice i make some money from that and sometime lose for dice but never can leave from gambling or dice xD -AFK you must leave gambling if you want to earning money dice = only game for fun
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rio3233
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August 12, 2015, 05:36:35 AM |
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I agree with people here, 'Fast'. People nowdays wanna do something fast like gambling, but the risk is to big for that. That's why me gambling at dice only for fun, not using bankroll. Better gambling on sportsbook for more fair.
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adaseb
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August 12, 2015, 06:13:25 AM |
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It seems like every dice site says 'provably fair' when in reality the dice are rigged...50/50 odds shouldn't be so imbalanced lol
Yes when you consider 100 rolls its about 50/50 but when you consider 10,000 or 100,000 rolls its very easy to get into a 20-30 loss losing streak. And many seem to be calling the sites cheaters but its all about probability.
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August 12, 2015, 06:29:20 AM |
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well buddy dont want to argue on this but , if the numbers r not tampered then why do i always get 30 reds at 50% chance while martingale
You don't. Nobody ever rolled 30 losses in a row at 50% at Just-Dice. If you can provide a legit screenshot of it happening even once (edit: at Just-Dice) I will send you 1 BTC or 80 CLAMs, your choice. I won't reply to the rest of your post, because it has already all been expertly refuted by others. If you are regularly seeing losing streaks of length 30 at 50% on any site, let me know. That would seriously need looking into since it should only happen about once per BILLION rolls.
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August 12, 2015, 06:47:43 AM |
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well buddy dont want to argue on this but , if the numbers r not tampered then why do i always get 30 reds at 50% chance while martingale
You don't. Nobody ever rolled 30 losses in a row at 50% at Just-Dice. If you can provide a legit screenshot of it happening even once (edit: at Just-Dice) I will send you 1 BTC or 80 CLAMs, your choice. I won't reply to the rest of your post, because it has already all been expertly refuted by others. If you are regularly seeing losing streaks of length 30 at 50% on any site, let me know. That would seriously need looking into since it should only happen about once per BILLION rolls. maybe clarify weather or not it has to be on martingale settings (low only or high only) instead of manual betting? i feel like people would actively try to manual bet their way to 30 losses in a row just for the 1 btc/80 CLAMs.
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theres nothing here. message me if you want to put something here.
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Bardman (OP)
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August 12, 2015, 09:59:38 AM |
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well buddy dont want to argue on this but , if the numbers r not tampered then why do i always get 30 reds at 50% chance while martingale
You don't. Nobody ever rolled 30 losses in a row at 50% at Just-Dice. If you can provide a legit screenshot of it happening even once (edit: at Just-Dice) I will send you 1 BTC or 80 CLAMs, your choice. I won't reply to the rest of your post, because it has already all been expertly refuted by others. If you are regularly seeing losing streaks of length 30 at 50% on any site, let me know. That would seriously need looking into since it should only happen about once per BILLION rolls. maybe clarify weather or not it has to be on martingale settings (low only or high only) instead of manual betting? i feel like people would actively try to manual bet their way to 30 losses in a row just for the 1 btc/80 CLAMs. I thought i read on this forum that some people has already rolled 30 rolls on just dice and even a little bit more, i guess dooglus is talking about getting 30 in a row a few times which is indeed weird but it could happen tho.
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Dennis7777
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August 12, 2015, 10:04:26 AM |
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I thought i read on this forum that some people has already rolled 30 rolls on just dice and even a little bit more, i guess dooglus is talking about getting 30 in a row a few times which is indeed weird but it could happen tho.
Yup dooglus once posted that there was a 32 loss streak on JD with 49.5% bets, but now Dooglus is offering 1 BTC for 30 loss streak for 50% bets.
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August 12, 2015, 10:07:24 AM |
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Well to be honest I think that's the hope of a short term win. Of course you can't win in the long run, but you can get lucky and win in a few sessions. So when someone is playing dice it's for the hope of winning on that day/session, I don't think they are even considering their previous sessions.
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Havelivi
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August 12, 2015, 10:20:32 AM |
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Well to be honest I think that's the hope of a short term win. Of course you can't win in the long run, but you can get lucky and win in a few sessions. So when someone is playing dice it's for the hope of winning on that day/session, I don't think they are even considering their previous sessions.
Well i think so in short term we can win at any provably fair dice site but much hard thing to take decision to stop when are on winning streak because in long term house edge always win, if any dice i lose i never tried to recover it back i keep continue with my daily goal.
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ashfaq
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August 12, 2015, 11:01:05 AM |
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I thought i read on this forum that some people has already rolled 30 rolls on just dice and even a little bit more, i guess dooglus is talking about getting 30 in a row a few times which is indeed weird but it could happen tho.
Yup dooglus once posted that there was a 32 loss streak on JD with 49.5% bets, but now Dooglus is offering 1 BTC for 30 loss streak for 50% bets. i dont care what dooglus says earlier and what he says now because he owns a dice site and his opinion is not considered or as equal as a gambler atleast and plus my point was the way the algorithm of these dice sites is designed is like there is a 50/50 chance to win at 50/50 i.e a 2x multiplier for 1 single roll and there is 30% chance of winning at the same 2x multiplier for 100000 rolls and as u keep on rolling the chances keep on decrease that is why in the long run the casinos win .and as far as licensed casinos are considered they r strictly prohibited and r not allowed to use such type of algorithms which variates the winning chances.
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ashfaq
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August 12, 2015, 11:03:19 AM |
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well buddy dont want to argue on this but , if the numbers r not tampered then why do i always get 30 reds at 50% chance while martingale
You don't. Nobody ever rolled 30 losses in a row at 50% at Just-Dice. If you can provide a legit screenshot of it happening even once (edit: at Just-Dice) I will send you 1 BTC or 80 CLAMs, your choice. I won't reply to the rest of your post, because it has already all been expertly refuted by others. If you are regularly seeing losing streaks of length 30 at 50% on any site, let me know. That would seriously need looking into since it should only happen about once per BILLION rolls. doog u only took the half statement and quoted on it ,i wish if u have read the full sentence.
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ashfaq
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August 12, 2015, 11:11:34 AM |
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It seems like every dice site says 'provably fair' when in reality the dice are rigged...50/50 odds shouldn't be so imbalanced lol
Yes when you consider 100 rolls its about 50/50 but when you consider 10,000 or 100,000 rolls its very easy to get into a 20-30 loss losing streak. And many seem to be calling the sites cheaters but its all about probability. that was what i was saying ,its very hard to get a hardcore streak in the beginning and so u can easily get it after 50000 rolls.
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