Prototanium otc Exchange

[IMZ]

Buy and Sell Prototanium here.

Downloads:
Windows: http://proto.uno/Prototanium-redgranite.zip

AND:

http://proto.uno
http://proto.uno/crawler/block_crawler.php

And other data at Post 9672 here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527500.9660

[1714158894]

1714158894

[siameze]

Reserved for deedbot

[lin0sspice]

where at ?

[lin0sspice]

UNO : PROTO
  1   : 100

[IMZ]

Thanks to Lin0sspice:

https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#prototanium

I gotta learn this. Will be on today or tomorrow.

And don't forget a cool thing, guys. Lots of Uno folk are in the U.S., so chat on the main thread is U.S. time -- but I am with you guys in Asia. Check the map. I am near 'Albany, Western Australia'

Who is mining? I offer 1Uno for 80 Proto (for me and my friends and the faucet)

IMZ Mark

[IMZ]

May be Proto incoming from Hagbard.

[IMZ]

Whoa! Lots of interest in Proto over at Cryptocointalk!!

EDIT: Woo hoo! I got on IRC!

IMZ Mark

[BitcoinNational]

wall of words incoming:

1.  Much gratitude to HagCe ... this is a great new spin on the testnet.  Props.  First and foremost.

2.  The here by known as, The SirSmokes Concern, should be kept on the table.  There is no need to drive loads of value into PR.  

3.  It is still a testNet, it will be, intentionally broken, from time to time.
a.  WARNING!  Techs/Devs out rank all decisions.  If they want to try something wacky and wild, they can.  "Investors" can not object.
b. Proto is very much a dev's tool, not an investment vehicle.

4.  But it still has value.

5.  Prime value or primary non-tech case use is what HagCe just used it to do.  Raise funds to help dev Uno.  I suggest we be explicit and state for the record this is the near future case use of PR ... unit of value to help fund the devs.

6.  It is a toy, so play!

7. Keep the till full http://proto.uno/faucet/  ... Donate to this faucet: UXzxjYTmdAfRmULyFC3FzaVkoU28S9voxi

8.  Possible secondary case use:
a.  claim checks for uno in the future
b.  credit points for doing uno stuff (see point 5 ... HagCe does something we send him PR he later auctions it to raise funds ... repeat process)
c.  DVC rebooted
d.  imagine what you like, again it's a toy so lots of possiblity.
e.  equity rebates
f.   cash register test net
g.  full scale UNO training bicycle ... faucet, deposit, trade, withdraw ... welcome to crypto!
h.  http://deedbot.org/ project (siameze)

9. SPECS
a. "It is based entirely on the 0.10.x branch of Unobtanium but supports synching and using the testnet chain of Un instead of its own blockchain!"
b. premined / kinda
c. Explorer PR : https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/BlockExplorer?coin=PR http://proto.uno/crawler/block_crawler.php
d. Pool for PR: https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/MineShaft?pool=PR

10. MARKET
a. Exchange PR : https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=PR_BTC
b. oTc iMz

[siameze]

wall of words incoming:

1.  Much gratitude to HagCe ... this is a great new spin on the testnet.  Props.  First and foremost.

2.  The here by known as, SirSmokes Concern, should be kept on the table.  There is no need to drive loads of value into PR.  

3.  It is still a testNet, it will be, intentionally broken, from time to time.
a.  WARNING!  Techs/Devs out rank all decisions.  If they want to try something wacky and wild, they can.  "Investors" can not object.

4.  But it still has value.

5.  Prime value or primary case use is what HagCe just used it to do.  Raise funds to help dev Uno.  I suggest we be explicit ans state for the record this is the near future case use of PR ... unit of value to help fund the devs.

6.  It is a toy, so play!

7.  Possible secondary case use:

a.  claim checks for uno in the future
b.  credit points for doing uno stuff (see point 5 ... HagCe does something we send him PR he later auctions it to raise funds ... repeat process)
c.  DVC rebooted
d.  imagine what you like, again it's a toy so lots of possiblity.

Good summary, it has no use as a pure investment vehicle. Any value is relative to the technical bits, which can then be safely ported to UNO, making it stronger and more valuable.

[IMZ]

Asked some people some questions today -- Proto as 'dividend' for the Uno they already hold? Put up two adverts. Still happy to pay for Proto to give away.

Mark

[BitcoinNational]

lots of ideas, lots of possibilities

 Really it would make sense on getting employees up to snuff on stuff, getting them use to the systems i suppose. All depends on how things are worked out.

Everyone loves some ghetto ascii right? Here goes:

Uno chain
_____________________
   \
    \
      side chain
       _________________________________________
               \                                         /                        
                 another chain                    /  reconnects
                 _______________________/


So the side chain sorta breaks off where everything in the past was good and then from there it has it's own life. It can do what it wants, or at some point in the future it can rejoin into the main chain?

Uno chain
======================
Testnet chain

They are one in the same chain if i re-read correctly. The testnet is sorta just like the shadow of the Uno chain? Doesn't have it's own soul so to speak?

like this selling point
Use the test net to train staff before going on an 'live' Uno Mall cash register.

also keen on
- community tipping (in progress)
- again bringing the value up so HC can raise funds to do what he does
- rebates/interest for Equity holders (same as M is thinking)

"It is based entirely on the 0.10.x branch of Unobtanium but supports synching and using the testnet chain of Un instead of its own blockchain!"

======================
deeper thoughts:
above my pay grade, but I think PR like side chains could be released often (in the future), then UNO basically can offer SHA-POW-MM assets, like CP or NXT but free range products (not tied explicitly to said platforms).  

[IMZ]

It's pleasing to see the discussion taking a calm and thoughtful direction.

Proto as dev's fund-raiser? That's a nice idea, B.N.!

Me still lookin' for a regular supply of Proto.

Got on Proto IRC tonight. New and cool experience for me.

IMZ Mark

[lin0sspice]

 EDITED: I as write it out, difficulty just hit 100,000
3 TH/s on testnet.

[IMZ]

wall of words incoming:

1.  Much gratitude to HagCe ... this is a great new spin on the testnet.  Props.  First and foremost.

2.  The here by known as, SirSmokes Concern, should be kept on the table.  There is no need to drive loads of value into PR.  

3.  It is still a testNet, it will be, intentionally broken, from time to time.
a.  WARNING!  Techs/Devs out rank all decisions.  If they want to try something wacky and wild, they can.  "Investors" can not object.

4.  But it still has value.

5.  Prime value or primary case use is what HagCe just used it to do.  Raise funds to help dev Uno.  I suggest we be explicit ans state for the record this is the near future case use of PR ... unit of value to help fund the devs.

6.  It is a toy, so play!

7.  Possible secondary case use:

a.  claim checks for uno in the future
b.  credit points for doing uno stuff (see point 5 ... HagCe does something we send him PR he later auctions it to raise funds ... repeat process)
c.  DVC rebooted
d.  imagine what you like, again it's a toy so lots of possiblity.

Good summary, it has no use as a pure investment vehicle. Any value is relative to the technical bits, which can then be safely ported to UNO, making it stronger and more valuable.

Yes. Nice summary.

Now, my present task is to gather and disburse and own and trade Proto in a transparent manner. I am hammering out a model right now -- but I have committed to giving away a half of all that I buy, which gives us about 900 at this second. Bear in mind -- wa ha ha -- that this could involve giving back to Hagbard Proto that he has sold us (so he can sell it to us again!).

Have secured, at least for a little while, a supply of Proto at 1:80

200 Proto (84f9f31684635efa2f80d2e0cb2928f3a94d7b01ffccdc3dcda76366e39ee494-000) sent to faucet at

UXzxjYTmdAfRmULyFC3FzaVkoU28S9voxi

[BitcoinNational]

"giving back to Hagbard Proto that he has sold us (so he can sell it to us again!)"
basically just that

We can establish 'value' in between dev projects via PR_UNO trading ... which will be very simple-fied

[kbroadfoot]

Pool for PR: https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/MineShaft?pool=PR
Exchange PR : https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=PR_BTC
Explorer PR : https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/BlockExplorer?coin=PR

Don't forget:  https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=PR_UNO

[IMZ]

Welcome, kbroadfoot!

Still hot debate going on over on the main thread! I'm working off B.N.'s 'position statement' above: Proto is very much a dev's tool, not an investment vehicle.

Put up two Proto give-away ads in town. Gonna make some phone calls today.

IMZ Mark

[lin0sspice]

Great, Yesterday difficulty peak up to 130k and hashrate was about 4, 4.5TH/s.

[IMZ]

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Woo hoo! First ever signed message on Prototanium?

To find a 'middle ground,' I remain committed to giving away 50% of any Proto I buy. At present, I have 665 available -- which is what the signed message says.

IMZ Mark

[kbroadfoot]

Well this is all very interesting...

At current pricing ( not counting lack of volume ) the Market Cap for PR at this writing is: 18 BTC.... or 5000 dollars
Thats not bad considering there are still less than 50,000 PR in existence...

Cryptopia pool hashrate is over 6 Th  and difficulty is over 130,000