Prototanium otc Exchange

[lxxtikk]

This fulfils my pledge to give away a half of all my Proto. I am tired of WTF people, so I am retiring from the Proto project.

So it's time for me, to take over the thread.  

Just kiddin, we are solidary group, as long we have the same interest. No leader needed!

Investing and holding until late 2016 and longer would be a good plan to me.

First step for me is to be invested. Just waiting the exchange rate to come back. It will come back to 0.00008000 anyway. This is just a small bubble at the moment.

Then we should have enough time to buy between 0.00008000 an 0.00010000. After that in early 2016 I will try to do the coupling to Uno 1:1. Coupling to Bitcoin following in 2017/2018. Not sure about the part 2, Bitcoin is a very big machine. But the coupling to Uno should be the easy one. I can do this on my own.

We will have Parity one day. 1:1:1 - Unobtanium and Prototanium were designed for this.

This is my plan!!! Also good for you, win-win-situation.

nice ,i will wait till 2020, maybe it will cost 100 $ for proto  

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[lxxtikk]

nice ,i will wait till 2020, maybe it will cost 100 $ for proto  

This is a possible szenario!

But let us go step by step. 2$ in middle 2016 would be a realistic goal. After Parity price will be about same to Unobtanium.

So investment phase will start soon. I think we will reach the buy range between 0.00008 and 0.00010 this week.

scenario is posible for every coin if it will be at china exchange like huobi, Jubi,OKCoin

[lxxtikk]

Well this is all very interesting...

At current pricing ( not counting lack of volume ) the Market Cap for PR at this writing is: 18 BTC.... or 5000 dollars
Thats not bad considering there are still less than 50,000 PR in existence...

Cryptopia pool hashrate is over 6 Th  and difficulty is over 130,000

where do you see proto  Market Cap ?
it is not at coinmarketcap...

[LieTOme]

good luck and profit by trade Prototanium

[lxxtikk]

Block 200.000 , why 200k block?

[lxxtikk]

Big rise. Can't stop the people from buying! I think the rate will come back to 0.00012. Probably only a bubble.

New Giveaway: 10 * 10 Prototanium

Only for members (activity > 10) that did not profit by the IMZ giveaway.

hm , no more proto for me   
price will go down  ,just wait a week, and we will see 8k sat 

[vchura65]

Hello,deadlock1,I can get a some Proto?If yes,my address UficchakXQjZXMQr4x3tE1qVZNLEtbj636 .Thank you!

[siameze]

So this is, how it ends!

Prototanium clinically dead! No transaction possible, no mining, no exchange!  

Goodbye Prototanium, goodbye Unobtanium.

Nice to meet you!

Are you leaving unobtanium and prototanium ? There may be a few people that wish to purchase some PRO here if you have any left to part with.

Getting testnet coins is sometimes problematic, though with the direction UNO is headed I see little difference in just experimenting with the main network. Little point in acquiring testnet coins on a network where value is < $5-10 US a coin. :/

[siameze]

Are you leaving unobtanium and prototanium ? There may be a few people that wish to purchase some PRO here if you have any left to part with.

Getting testnet coins is sometimes problematic, though with the direction UNO is headed I see little difference in just experimenting with the main network. Little point in acquiring testnet coins on a network where value is < $5-10 US a coin. :/

Both!

Will delete my few thousand Unobtanium I collected over the years.

I could dump them, but the pain of the Unobtanium guys wil be longer if it sinks slowly!

Isn't a roughly stagnant $250k market cap and ~ 2 BTC daily trade volume not painful enough?

Dumping would be a bad idea at this time, IMO. hodl them as much as you can, there may be a return to profitability one day if community can ever get any real direction.

[siameze]

For me this is all scam now!

I believed a long time in Unobtanium, but not any more!  

Doing nothing and waiting is not a strategy! What is the value of these coins? A cool logo and a cool name, Ok! Anything else?

Bought this for the community: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/pr/

What for? He shots the coin off!!! Zero nodes! Thank you very much!

I won't go as far as to call it a "scam" because HC is a great developer ... the community has just lost it's way and cannot demonstrate that there is anything that differentiates it from BTC, besides the name and logo as you said.

I stopped runing nodes simply because it isn't economically feasible for me to assist a community that made it clear they do not share my values. I didn't lose out much though coin-wise because I never invest in a community until I have done my due diligence - at least 6 months worth. That way you are well past all the fake "Welcome to our community" back-patting, etc that inevitably come. After all that fades and a few real conversations occur, you find the people that are going to move forward and make something with the tools at their disposal. Or you find a group that circle-jerks over price and trivial arguments all the time.

Once upon a time UNO was heading towards being a great thing in the otc commodities markets. Not so much anymore.

[p3yot33at3r]

....because HC is a great developer ...

I'm afraid I can't see that. PRO wallet has never worked properly & HC has completely ignored the issue here, on git & on CCT.

https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/40178-prototanium-its-like-unobtanium-because-it-is-not-a-new-coin-a-new-way-to-use-an-existing-coins-sidechain/page-6

https://github.com/thegreatoldone/Prototanium/issues/2

[siameze]

....because HC is a great developer ...

I'm afraid I can't see that. PRO wallet has never worked properly & HC has completely ignored the issue here, on git & on CCT.

https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/40178-prototanium-its-like-unobtanium-because-it-is-not-a-new-coin-a-new-way-to-use-an-existing-coins-sidechain/page-6

https://github.com/thegreatoldone/Prototanium/issues/2

He has some good ideas. UNO has other "devs" and "programmers" listed on the official site that show zero contribution to the project.

I offered to help with the github issues and work on client development full time almost a year ago, with no result. Although I mainly work on linux projects, it isn't hard to spin up a VM and try to reproduce the issues people keep having. Cross-compiling for several platforms at once is going to produce major bugs, no doubt about it.

If you want me to investigate your github issue, please post your OS details at the very least on the issues page and I'll see what I can find.

I know zero about CCT, I don't use it.

[p3yot33at3r]

If you want me to investigate your github issue, please post your OS details at the very least on the issues page and I'll see what I can find.

The problem is across all platforms. I use Xubuntu 64bit & Winblows 7 64bit - same problem.

Thanks for the kind offer 

[siameze]

I have installed additional node, but it has no use!

Only the ONE central node @proto.uno will sync! It's completely centralized!

What was the sense of cryptos? centralization?

"Centralized" lol. There is just little interest in a testnet outside of developers. Fatal flaw here was it wasn't aimed at making UNO any better. It merely got pumped and monetized, which is all these morons care about.

[siameze]

"Centralized" lol. There is just little interest in a testnet outside of developers. Fatal flaw here was it wasn't aimed at making UNO any better. It merely got pumped and monetized, which is all these morons care about.

I wanted to make it better! I'm developer!

No chance!

If you are a developer, why not come help with the hamradiocoin project ? There is absolutely nothing here to develop - you might can help fix broken parts of the code but I wouldn't waste my time. UNO/PRO community isn't going to retain any developers because there is no direction. Just 20 people hodling some coins or swapping them back and forth for the other tiddlywinks on "exchanges".

I'll be the first to join you back here if anything changes.

[siameze]

I want to add ACCT (Atomic cross chain trading) to a wallet!

Problem hasn't been solved yet.

My fear is, I have to create my own coin, cause all the small shitcoin do not let anybody add some more value. Everybody is sitting on his "own" coin. "Don't touch my coin! It's mine!". There is no cooperation at all.

I actually did not want to add one additional coin to the 1000 others!

How can there be any progress, if there is only one developer for every coin?

The other possibility is the way of ethereum. Maybe I'll go this way, everybody could add some more value. The problem with ethereum is, that coding is not so elegant in this platform!

Ethereum is shitty code that is poorly developed and frequently results in coin losses.

Why do people keep trying to re-invent the wheel ?

I don't really care about the "Don't touch my coin! It's mine!, There is no cooperation at all." argument. Most of all said shitcoins are open-source and contain the same flawed code that keeps getting carbon-copied over to the next shitty altcoin ad-naseum. Now some may listen to your suggestions, apply patches where appropriate, etc. The other 99% don't care, as long as it can remain duct-taped in place until the dev can dump and move on to the next. Some, like uno, haven't attracted the attention of anyone malicious enough yet. That may change at a more profitable point in their history.

[siameze]

Also I have over 63.000 Prototanium, now useless, who has this amount?

I did that only, cause I hoped, I could add some more value to Unobtanium some day! (Now I know it would have been better to develop my own coin!)

I still have roughly 200 PRO left in cold storage. I gave away most of my UNO, besides a few I have sitting on a silver wallet I may or may not sell for the right price.

As for your future developments, feel free to stop by irc one day and let's chat.

[siameze]

@ p3yot33at3r

PRO seems to be stuck as there are no nodes broadcasting besides seed node. (Not any that I can find anyway).

If anyone wants a temp seed node put up for ~30 days I have server space for rent. I'm past doing things for free for these ungrateful bastards.

[p3yot33at3r]

@ p3yot33at3r

PRO seems to be stuck as there are no nodes broadcasting besides seed node. (Not any that I can find anyway).

If anyone wants a temp seed node put up for ~30 days I have server space for rent. I'm past doing things for free for these ungrateful bastards.

Working for me - I'm connected to deadlock1's node still - probably the longest time it's held on to a node ever! 

This is what I kept saying would happen, as soon as proto.uno goes down, the whole network would go down......now I'm the only one able to mine it? 

[siameze]

Would be no problem - if testnet!


But it has logo, own name, exchange.... etc....

So for what for this effort , marketing as an own coin - own name and own logo and - after that killing the only one hard coded node.  

Makes no sense IMO!

You really don't "have" to use the PRO client, I just use UNO with the testnet flag since I have no need for the GUI side of things. Works just the same.

It took everyone in altcoin land 2-3 years to figure out that hard-coded nodes and irc dns propagation was a silly idea.