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August 03, 2015, 12:04:54 PM
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http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/ASE:IND

What the hell is happening in Greece? Havent Germany%France aided them?

Stocks Market is down %16.65 at the moment.

-%42.12 return in last 1 year.

A country is sinking down right before our eyes.

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August 03, 2015, 01:35:30 PM
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More austerity will simply kill growth. In fact for fiat money system, the only way forward is to borrow more and more, if you want a sane fiscal policy, then you can not use inflative fiat money system, you must use gold or bitcoin based deflationary monetary system

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August 03, 2015, 01:37:08 PM
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August 03, 2015, 01:41:25 PM
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Greece will receive another money from EU countries and will continue to spend it  Grin
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August 03, 2015, 02:21:50 PM
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Greece will receive another money from EU countries and will continue to spend it  Grin

i dobut they continue this farce, EU will not pay anything more in terms of helping them, if they can't come up with something that can get rid of their bad economic condition, they are probably out of the european union, for good this time

it would be funny if they waste the last 80B loan, that they borrowed from the central bank...i think it's a likely scenario bound to happen eventually
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August 03, 2015, 02:58:00 PM
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Greece will receive another money from EU countries and will continue to spend it  Grin

i dobut they continue this farce, EU will not pay anything more in terms of helping them, if they can't come up with something that can get rid of their bad economic condition, they are probably out of the european union, for good this time

it would be funny if they waste the last 80B loan, that they borrowed from the central bank...i think it's a likely scenario bound to happen eventually

All the ECB has done is extended a guaranteed dead. The final destination of Greece is suffering and poverty, it's either now, or it's either in a matter of months when shit will hit the fan. Greece should be treated like a post-war country which is exactly the situation it's at and get some real help, not this austerity bullshit.

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August 03, 2015, 03:13:02 PM
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Never waste a good crisis.

Pretty sure ECB will smash every cent out of the Greeks, it will end in a defauld.
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August 03, 2015, 03:17:27 PM
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Greece will receive another money from EU countries and will continue to spend it  Grin

i dobut they continue this farce, EU will not pay anything more in terms of helping them, if they can't come up with something that can get rid of their bad economic condition, they are probably out of the european union, for good this time

it would be funny if they waste the last 80B loan, that they borrowed from the central bank...i think it's a likely scenario bound to happen eventually

All the ECB has done is extended a guaranteed dead. The final destination of Greece is suffering and poverty, it's either now, or it's either in a matter of months when shit will hit the fan. Greece should be treated like a post-war country which is exactly the situation it's at and get some real help, not this austerity bullshit.

It is bullshit, but its not like the government is collapsed. As incompetent they may or may not be, you need to cut the head to replace it with a new head, because that's pretty much what is "given as real help to post war countries".

Just watch the American, that's how they do it. (Though they arent shy of dealing the destruction themselves first either ;P)

I'm not sure anything more is going to roll unless they sell out Greece. But what do i know.

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August 03, 2015, 04:02:36 PM
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this is nothing. worst problems has still to show up for greece. greece people thinking the problems will solve itself don't know what's going on, or they simply don't want to know it.
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August 03, 2015, 04:13:18 PM
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this is nothing. worst problems has still to show up for greece. greece people thinking the problems will solve itself don't know what's going on, or they simply don't want to know it.


How do you know this? Are you greek or live there or watch interviews and news in which greeks have been saying this? No, I want to know the authenticity of your source. Greece knows exactly how important Greece actually is for EU, and now that they are in a situation, they are making good of their political and geographic location in the world. Otherwise, Russia would try to gain Greek land and it will be a huge issue for the US..
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August 03, 2015, 05:10:31 PM
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it would be funny if they waste the last 80B loan, that they borrowed from the central bank...i think it's a likely scenario bound to happen eventually

I can picture the headlines now, "Greece squanders loan on drugs and prostitutes".

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August 03, 2015, 05:27:05 PM
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There are alot of educated people who have adjusted for this and pulled their money out because they saw the disaster coming. This would be the market adjusting the price prior.
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August 03, 2015, 07:57:01 PM
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More austerity will simply kill growth. In fact for fiat money system, the only way forward is to borrow more and more, if you want a sane fiscal policy, then you can not use inflative fiat money system, you must use gold or bitcoin based deflationary monetary system

To some point inflating money is good as it allows people to take on loans with low interest from banks and boost the economy. If the system only had a fixed amount of money banks would rent at much higher rates where no businesses could afford a loan, slowing economy, slowing buying power,even slower economy etc.

The current situations is not perfect, but that is what we have at the moment.
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August 03, 2015, 08:29:24 PM
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http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/ASE:IND

What the hell is happening in Greece? Havent Germany%France aided them?

Stocks Market is down %16.65 at the moment.

-%42.12 return in last 1 year.

A country is sinking down right before our eyes.

There is some blood being shed today in the markets
That said it was expected given that the market has finally had a chance to adjust itself.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-33754005

The main Athens stock index, the Athex, ended the day down by 16.23% as trading resumed after a five-week closure.

The nation's top four lenders - Piraeus Bank, National Bank, Alpha Bank and Eurobank - fell the most, all down 30%, the maximum allowed. Banks make up about a fifth of the index.

Expect more bank pain tommorrow and also for people to realize the utility of a cash reserve if you want to take advantage of deals.

In accordance with conditions laid down by the government and the European Central Bank, local investors are not allowed to buy shares with money from their bank accounts, only with cash kept in safe deposit boxes or at home

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August 03, 2015, 11:09:41 PM
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Check the news. Puerto Rico already down, much bigger than Greece. Greece will meet the same fate, it's not about if but about when, and will be sooner than we think.



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August 03, 2015, 11:42:21 PM
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To some point inflating money is good as it allows people to take on loans with low interest from banks and boost the economy. If the system only had a fixed amount of money banks would rent at much higher rates where no businesses could afford a loan, slowing economy, slowing buying power,even slower economy etc.

The current situations is not perfect, but that is what we have at the moment.


I am warming to this more. My thinking is if a currency is fixed and will not inflate where does that leave the unborn? Sure they can borrow from or provide services to current holders, but isn't that similar to todays fiat system? The only difference would be that people would lend what they hold and not create something new to lend. Quite a trivial difference in 200 years time really. Lenders could still request interest which would result in inevitable defaults somewhere down the line.

Contemplating the best fora this species is a right headache. So I am tempted to conclude the same as you.

The current situations is not perfect, but that is what we have at the moment.

Check the news. Puerto Rico already down, much bigger than Greece. Greece will meet the same fate, it's not about if but about when, and will be sooner than we think.

Its gonna happen before tomorrow?!?!?

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August 04, 2015, 06:41:24 PM
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Seeing as the situation in Greece is seemingly getting worse with the overall EU economy not looking great,  I predict it should keep going down as other countries follow Greece's path.
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August 04, 2015, 08:14:27 PM
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Check the news. Puerto Rico already down, much bigger than Greece. Greece will meet the same fate, it's not about if but about when, and will be sooner than we think.
What will happen when Greece is down ?
Do another country lend some money to help or just let it happen and don't do anything?
Im interested on this Greece situation but im not really good at this economical stuff  Tongue


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August 05, 2015, 04:16:37 AM
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this whole thing with greece being down, the bitcoin value is still at 270sih.

so I dont think the price will be based on greece, although there will be more people towards bitcoin since they cant get money out of their banks period..

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August 05, 2015, 05:57:43 AM
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Check the news. Puerto Rico already down, much bigger than Greece. Greece will meet the same fate, it's not about if but about when, and will be sooner than we think.
What will happen when Greece is down ?
Do another country lend some money to help or just let it happen and don't do anything?
Im interested on this Greece situation but im not really good at this economical stuff  Tongue

I will cut the story short and give you a little important points you could research about. Eurozone needs Greece on their side to maintain political stability in the circle, and also they'd like Greece to pay interest on money or sell them their assets. Greece knows exactly how important they are, based on their geographical location. The US would certainly not appreciate Russia making a deal with Greece and stepping on the Greece land.
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