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November 18, 2015, 07:28:45 AM
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As far as I know, selling accounts is illegal so I really do not understand why this thread is still around. When you sell your account, all you do is enable scammers to scam other people who rely on BTT reputation. Fuck that.

From what I seen and heard so far ... it is not illegal. In fact there is a few Bitcointalk accounts being sold and bought every week (or even day). I think it is illegal in the past but so far I have never heard of anyone being banned from buying or selling of account.

Its not illegal nor is it against the forum rules (see mexxer-2's post for a ref). It was common to leave negative rep on bought accounts for a while, but this only lead to brand new accounts doing the sales (with the rare exception). There is also the argument that buying and selling accounts in combination with paid signatures makes it more difficult for scammers to ROI on a bought account. Since there is an honest way to ROI from a bought account prices are higher than they would be otherwise, which increases the amount someone needs to scam with a bought account. This in turn makes the scam less likely to happen or more difficult to pull off.
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November 24, 2015, 06:30:42 PM
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I tried to check mine today again. It says the same thing it said before...
Remote Procedure Call - Failure. Please try again

Well i recieved the same message few days ago and today when I tried to check 2 different accounts with 400+ posts, one of the account is for FruitsBasket 487792 (it is not for sale afaik just discussed in a topic how does it worth), i estimated his account at 0.15 and want to see if it is accurate with the result here. I wasn't waiting in the queue when I tried to verify the 2.
I tried again now with the OP id and it works fine.
Any idea from where it comes?
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November 24, 2015, 10:53:51 PM
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Is your service back up again? Yesterday i tried to check my account and everytime there was either a waiting que or a message that you could not process my request..
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November 24, 2015, 10:54:51 PM
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Is your service back up again? Yesterday i tried to check my account and everytime there was either a waiting que or a message that you could not process my request..

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November 27, 2015, 03:00:50 PM
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It is not working for me... say "please wait until previous request" for over 2 hour
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I then just tried it in Chrome and it worked perfectly.

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I then just tried it in Chrome and it worked perfectly.

Not sure if thats the issue but was having problems using another brower

I use today for two accounts and work great!
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Add the rank member for activity and potential activity Cheesy it could be better for reading and evaluate an account immediately!

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November 29, 2015, 05:07:08 PM
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Can I make one suggestion?
Add the rank member for activity and potential activity Cheesy it could be better for reading and evaluate an account immediately!
That is a good suggestion. I will add that in at some point.

How does everyone feel about the estimation? Is it too high, too low, or kinda accurate?

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November 29, 2015, 05:10:17 PM
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How does everyone feel about the estimation? Is it too high, too low, or kinda accurate?

A little bit too high atm, I'd say.
But I don't keep that thight tabs on auctions/sales.


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November 29, 2015, 05:34:52 PM
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How does everyone feel about the estimation? Is it too high, too low, or kinda accurate?

A little bit too high atm, I'd say.
But I don't keep that thight tabs on auctions/sales.

About it… your script take in consideration the board of the post?

There is a list?
Likewise how post in off topic as to count as "0" value Smiley
Also for beginner and help…
or I see many people spam or ask info useless only to count some post in "marketplace" …

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November 29, 2015, 06:06:48 PM
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How does everyone feel about the estimation? Is it too high, too low, or kinda accurate?

A little bit too high atm, I'd say.
But I don't keep that thight tabs on auctions/sales.

About it… your script take in consideration the board of the post?

There is a list?
Likewise how post in off topic as to count as "0" value Smiley
Also for beginner and help…
or I see many people spam or ask info useless only to count some post in "marketplace" …
Well that is actually hard to quantify and consider the quality of those posts. And the posts aren't really factored into the calculation, just lengths for the post quality section. And post quality is completely subjective, so even that is really hard to quantify.

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November 29, 2015, 06:59:11 PM
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How does everyone feel about the estimation? Is it too high, too low, or kinda accurate?

A little bit too high atm, I'd say.
But I don't keep that thight tabs on auctions/sales.

About it… your script take in consideration the board of the post?

There is a list?
Likewise how post in off topic as to count as "0" value Smiley
Also for beginner and help…
or I see many people spam or ask info useless only to count some post in "marketplace" …
Well that is actually hard to quantify and consider the quality of those posts. And the posts aren't really factored into the calculation, just lengths for the post quality section. And post quality is completely subjective, so even that is really hard to quantify.

Actually you calculate as +50 length in every post as good quality?
"quoted text" will count?
"off topic" also is count?
Why not try to apply some rule that penalties or favoring a post in a subsection?

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November 29, 2015, 07:01:27 PM
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Actually you calculate as +50 length in every post as good quality?
"quoted text" will count?
"off topic" also is count?
Why not try to apply some rule that penalties or favoring a post in a subsection?

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pqm (post quality multiplier) determined by ratio of good posts (>75 characters excluding quoted text) to bad posts (<75 characters excluding quotes)
excellent post quality (90%) = 1.05 (+5%)
good (80%) = 1.025 (+2.5%)
fair (70%) = 1.00 (+0%)
poor (50%) = -1.025 (-2.5%)
very poor (<50%) = -1.05 (-5%)

good posts (>75 characters excluding quoted text)
how would a machine measure off-topic inside a thread?
If you only think about the off-topic section, some posts/threads in there also are decent.


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November 29, 2015, 08:27:35 PM
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How does everyone feel about the estimation? Is it too high, too low, or kinda accurate?
Here is an example,  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1269520.msg13102139#msg13102139, as you will notice 90% of the posts of this member made in games and rounds sub + he has a very poor post quality while the price is ~0.09BTC thanks to his potential activity tho.
I like the site and I use it frequently to estimate accounts, i don't mind to find inaccurate price since it isn't that easy thing to estimate but I like what Amadues said about considering the board, maybe keeping ×1 for all sections except off-topic & games and rounds & politics ×0.95?, is it hard to make this? Cannot be an optional setting for example since it will make a few delay? Sorry i don't know many things about coding.



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November 29, 2015, 08:59:07 PM
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How does everyone feel about the estimation? Is it too high, too low, or kinda accurate?
Here is an example,  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1269520.msg13102139#msg13102139, as you will notice 90% of the posts of this member made in games and rounds sub + he has a very poor post quality while the price is ~0.09BTC thanks to his potential activity tho.
I like the site and I use it frequently to estimate accounts, i don't mind to find inaccurate price since it isn't that easy thing to estimate but I like what Amadues said about considering the board, maybe keeping ×1 for all sections except off-topic & games and rounds & politics ×0.95?, is it hard to make this? Cannot be an optional setting for example since it will make a few delay? Sorry i don't know many things about coding.
I'll take a look. The site doesn't count how many posts in each section yet, so I would have to add that feature as well to make it work.

To do this I will need multipliers and thresholds, since the number of posts isn't factored into the calculation. Suggest me some multipliers and thresholds
e.g: if 80% of posts are in off-topic, games and rounds, and politics then price = price *0.9

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December 01, 2015, 12:53:14 PM
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Hi OP,

Just tried to check a different account on your site - was returned with a 'Remote Procedure Call - Failure. Please try again' error message.

I got the same result a few months ago when I tried inputting the Sam UID. What seems to cause this problem? Thank you, nice job with the site regardless!
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December 01, 2015, 01:53:17 PM
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Hi OP,

Just tried to check a different account on your site - was returned with a 'Remote Procedure Call - Failure. Please try again' error message.

I got the same result a few months ago when I tried inputting the Sam UID. What seems to cause this problem? Thank you, nice job with the site regardless!
Try it at a different time. If you use it around midnight Eastern Time, then it won't work since that is when the server restart happens.

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Not too bad.

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December 01, 2015, 08:16:46 PM
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How does everyone feel about the estimation? Is it too high, too low, or kinda accurate?

Well based on the accounts I checked before, mostly it is too high (sometimes its a bit accurate though in some accounts with good potential activity and post quality). It varies but as I said its mostly too high.

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December 04, 2015, 11:21:57 AM
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Just saw it, and I have to say that its very nice idea, and great development.
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